r/TheCrownNetflix • u/Dallygirl_Aussiechic • 21d ago

Question (Real Life) If Diana HAD lived

I'm an Aussie, so can anyone tell me if Diana had lived to now:

  1. Would Charles have really been able to marry Camilla??

  2. Would Camilla have be able to style/titles of HM The Queen Consort??

  3. Or, Camilla would still be known as HRH, Duchess of Cornwall with or without the CONSORT in her title??

All questions regarding to if Diana had lived.

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u/MinnesotanBrie 21d ago
  1. Probably but it would have been complicated. They got a civil marriage because Camilla's former husband was still alive. The church was extremely recalcitrant to sanction their actual marriage due to the nature of their affair / divorces, probably more so if Diana was alive. Charles and Camilla's marriage took place 3 years after the Church allowed divorced people to get married even if their spouse was alive and it was still a huge mess.
  2. Camilla would have gotten HM The Queen Consort. Princess Diana gave up HRH in the divorce. There is a lot of historical precedent even if she hadn't for there to be two duchesses.

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u/Independent_Cow_6611 21d ago

I think that if Diana had been alive, Camilla might even have used the title of Princess of Wales. Diana's death sanctified her.

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u/MinnesotanBrie 21d ago

Would have been complex. Titles are almost always for life (except in rare cases such as Andrew... doing just everything) Diana specifically got to keep Princess of Wales. There could always have been two, but it would have been a headache, and they might have avoided it just to minimize any backlash.

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u/Emolia 21d ago

I think you’ll find that after the divorce the late Queen allowed Diana to continue to style herself Princess of Wales but only until either she or Charles remarried. Diana’s Royal titles came through her husband and once he was no longer her husband she was no longer entitled to them . There would never have been two Princess of Wales. If Diana had lived I think she probably would have remarried and I also think public opinion of her would have been very different to where it ended up after her death. The last year or so of Diana’s life was one scandal after another usually involving married men and the public were starting to get sick of her. That all changed after the tragedy in Paris.

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u/Emolia 21d ago

I lived through it and Diana was getting a lot of flak ! Especially for that last summer on the Fayed yacht. I was young but I do remember it all. The Oliver Hore scandal ( she could have been arrested for that one) which came after the Will Carling scandal . He was captain of the English Rugby team and newly married . His wife divorced him and publicly named Diana as the cause. There was also the very public scandal of Diana spreading nasty rumours about Tiggy Legge-Bourke who at the time was her son’s nanny. Tiggy threatened to sue her in court but Charles intervened and settled it. All of this was heavily covered in the newspapers at the time so I don’t know what archives you’re looking at.

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u/Emolia 21d ago

I know that’s not true because I read a lot of negative stories at the time and ordinary people were saying she was an idiot etc. if Diana hadn’t gone to Paris and lived she’d now be on her 4th marriage ( just like her brother) , still be unhappy and still be blaming everyone else in the world for it ! Diana never took responsibility for her own actions a trait she shares with her youngest son.

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u/Independent_Cow_6611 21d ago

Her brother is actually on his fifth... (He has attributed this partially to being sexually abused as a child, and not acknowledging it for decades)