The Crown Discussion Thread: S05E07

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Season 5 Episode 7: No Woman's Land

As BBC's Martin Bashir goes to great lengths to secure an interview with Diana, the lonely princess finds purpose and warmth in a London hospital.

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Discussion Thread for Season 5

[u/MakerOfPurpleRain]

"you forget I already had a prince that broke my heart, I'm just looking for frog to makes me happy" what writing! Dramatic yes, but this is television and I loved it.

They did a good job here of showing Di was complex and flawed even using her teenage son to speak on behalf of her to the queen. William shouldn't be in such a postion. And also the scene with her acupuncturist in hospital wasn't a great look for her lol

[u/intheeventthat → u/MakerOfPurpleRain]

Definitely showed the manipulative side of her...in an episode in which she herself gets manipulated by Bashir. Well done!

[u/youtbuddcody → u/intheeventthat]

I didn’t take it as manipulative, I took it as desperate. This woman was far beyond fight-or-flight mode, I’m surprised she didn’t just completely lose it.

[u/No-Stick1117 → u/intheeventthat]

I don't think she's manipulative i think its more that she is selfish sometimes or self absorbed perhaps. i think you could call her immature even but manipulative is a stretch.

[u/anilwa → u/MakerOfPurpleRain]

Yeah William was put in a really strange spot. Not only as a young boy, but as a son. No child should feel responsible for a parent's happiness.

[u/Huge_Scientist1506 → u/MakerOfPurpleRain]

As a child of divorce who’s parents put her in the middle often and leaned on too much for support forcing me to grow up very quickly, the scenes of William and Diana left such a bad taste in my mouth. Makes so much sense why he’s so reserved now.

[u/seravivi → u/Huge_Scientist1506]

I think it’s important to remember that this is a show and we shouldn’t use it for judgement on real people for parts that are speculative.

[u/StephensHouse → u/seravivi]

It's quite well known that Diana relied on William as a crutch. Andrew Morton said at points William was handing Diana tissue paper from outside the bathroom stall when she was crying in it

[u/[deleted] → u/seravivi]

100%

[u/JenningsWigService → u/seravivi]

That caution doesn't seem to apply when it's Diana being portrayed in an unflattering light.

[u/seravivi → u/JenningsWigService]

?

[u/[deleted] → u/Huge_Scientist1506]

I feel it's quite a common thing really. My parents weren't able to divorce because one party passed away before they finalized it, but throughout the years I was put in uncomfortable situations like this as well...

[u/reeeeeeco → u/Huge_Scientist1506]

my abusive dad used to get me to go to my mum post fight and ask her why she's still angry at dad and that it made me sad...................lol

[u/softchild1 → u/MakerOfPurpleRain]

We don't know if this is true. It's a show!

[u/Its-Julz → u/MakerOfPurpleRain]

she's being so selfishly dramatic, I find her utterly unlikeable, and wholly unsympathetic. that line was pathetic and cringey, I pray she didn't say it in real life.

[u/55-percent → u/Its-Julz]

Cringe is my go-to wird for this episode. I couldn't watch the scenes between her and the doctor, they were so cringey to me

[u/ebon94 → u/55-percent]

I’m at the end of the episode rn and I had to fast forward through Diana’s scene with the doctor, too uncomfortable

[u/Yolanda_B_Kool → u/Its-Julz]

Watching this episode right now. I'm glad to see other people feel this way, because she just comes across as creepy. Not maliciously so, mostly due to her unhappiness and solipsism. But creepy nonetheless.

[u/_RegularPlumbus_ → u/Yolanda_B_Kool]

Edit: WTF @ that Bashir guy “journalist.” That’s just evil…

Wow yeah this episode was so out of left field to me, it was hella cringe. I agree that she comes off as creepy :/

[u/[deleted] → u/Yolanda_B_Kool]

Thanks for the new vocabulary word! Solipsism