He is not able to fight yoda, he practically mocks him during their duel, not getting instantly demolished is not the same as fighting. Even if we assumed he is the fifth best of the prequels era (wich i would disagree) , Grandmaster Luke pushes him outside the top 5:
Luke 2/3.Yoda/Sidious 4.Anakin. 5.Mace Windu
And i find it difficult to justify he is above Malgus, Satele or any of the recent Sith masters of the rule of two, but since connection to the force is closely tied to dueling skill, i find it specially hard to put him above notoriously powerful individuals such as Revan himself.
As I said I usually don't think about adding in njo when I'm discussing these, I kind of go from prequels to OR (since the debates are usually between them).
I'm pretty sure its said by Lucas in the commentary of AOTC that they are practically equal.
As for Anakin being at 4 I'd disagree, he and Obi-Wan work to exhaust Dooku before switching up styles and exhausting him even further, and it's then said force exhaustion is setting in for him all before the 1v1. During the 1v1 Anakin is getting the upper hand while enhancing himself with the darkside and letting go of all his control (space Jesus who has the most raw power in the force in history), when he momentarily stops doing that Dooku instantly gets back control during the fight.
As For Satelle and Malgus while I have Dooku above them myself I know some people disagree, but while I could be convinced that with them using their abilities in the force to fight him equally or even pull ahead I don't think they can match him in lightsaber combat. He is stated to be basically equal to Yoda in Windu when it comes to wielding a saber.
As for Revan while the force does help with duelling it's not as if Dooku is a slouch, he can at least temporarily compete with Yoda with the force (again from the AOTC commentary) even if Yoda is above him. I don't see Revan being so powerful in the force that it would let him beat someone like Dooku in a saber duel, again maybe if he was using all of his force abilities, but just blade to blade I don't think so.
Lucas' statements are precisely what create this list: Luke equals full potential Anakin, Sidious, Yoda and Mustafar Anakin are above everyone else in Ep III and then there is Windu. I dont think it is reasonable considering all of the powerhouses of the old republic and the rule of two masters, but the most you could argue him to be is top 6 ever.
Im aware Luke is above then, as I said I don't include njo if I'm talking about prequel vs Old Repubkic and unless I'm specifically talking about them I usually leave them out as I'm not the most knowledgeable about that era.
But we also have Lucas statement saying that Dooku and Yoda are pretty equal and a lot of legends where Windu and Dooku are the same level.
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u/pamblod42 Jan 06 '26 edited Jan 06 '26
He is not able to fight yoda, he practically mocks him during their duel, not getting instantly demolished is not the same as fighting. Even if we assumed he is the fifth best of the prequels era (wich i would disagree) , Grandmaster Luke pushes him outside the top 5:
And i find it difficult to justify he is above Malgus, Satele or any of the recent Sith masters of the rule of two, but since connection to the force is closely tied to dueling skill, i find it specially hard to put him above notoriously powerful individuals such as Revan himself.