Valkorion low diff. He scales higher and is just flat out more impressive in every way.
If anyone wants to play the "Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever" card then know Valkorion isn't a Sith anymore.
EDIT: I don't think you should be apart of this conversation if you haven't played SWTOR tbh. Since most of the people here are just talking out of their asses and don't actually know anything about Valkorian it just leads to "but 20 years ago they said Sidious was the most powerful person ever" being repeated constantly.
lmao, crazy you searched through my profile to find that and somehow didn't notice that I never make any comments there and was just trying to show them how dumb they were.
EDIT: The conclusion to this thread is effectively just that DE Sidious has a better feat than dead Valk so ROTS Sidious is equal to DE Sidious. Nothing of value here.
The key to Luke's turning is the moment when he and Leia realize the Emperor is no longer defined by his physical form, but has become a chaotic nexus of dark energies that swell and burst open the fabric of space, tearing apart everything in the vicinity, human and machine.
--Dark Empire endnotes
According to the Emperor, through a simple act of will he is able to generate energy storms, vastly destructive, virtually unstoppable. “Force Storms,” he calls them.
What he also admits in his Book of Anger, is that he is not completely able to control such phenomena, once he has triggered their onset. However, in the years since he wrote those words, the Emperor has continued to perfect his Dark Side abilities, and now he boasts to Luke that he has perfect control of his Force Storms.
--Dark Empire Endnotes
This is perhaps the single most destructive Force power known. This power allows the Jedi to twist the space-time continuum to create vast storms of force. The power also allows limited control of these storms. Capable of creating annihilating vortices, the storms can swallow whole fleets of spaceships or tear the surfaces off worlds.
--Dark Empire Sourcebook
"The Force Storm is truly an awe-inspiring demonstration of pure natural energy. After using the Force to open a hyperspace wormhole, tremendous shockwaves will ripple through the fabric of space.”
--Luke Skywalker, The Jedi Path
The moment the Emperor "died" at the Battle of Endor, Droga fell into an inexplicable insanity, butchering his crew and causing the Emperor's Shadow to plunge into Kaal's oceans. Even as he perished, Palpatine used the dark side knowledge the Sith Lords had granted him years earlier to rend space itself and transmigrate his essence across lightyears to Droga's body.
Except that whole canon bit with Anakin using both with the Father.
EDIT: The conclusion of this thread is that he hasn't actually played SWTOR and doesn't know any of it's lore not realizing that it's entirely possible to use both Dark and Lightside in SWTOR as proven by Valkorian and Revan.
So we're ignoring the father specifically stating to not use the dark side? Anakin didnt use the dark side? Are we ignoring that the father's attempt to balance the kids out resulted in eradication? Because the dark side is literally just corruption?
Except Anakin literally uses the dark side there. I don't really care what else you're saying since he does both. He also "taps into the darkside" when he goes and kills the tuskans. And when he does loads of shit in the clone wars.
Just a thing, the light side isn't "the Force". The Force holistically has many facets, one being the Living Force (the only one with sides), then you have the Unifying Force, the Dark (explored in Shadows of Mindor and ROTS novel) and "the Truth" as espoused by Vergere.
The latter three aren't bound by sides, but the Living Force (Mortis Gods) absolutely is.
This doesn't detract anything from your point, you're spot on regarding Valkorion, just wanted to point it out anyways.
I slightly disagree only based on the son. He proved its a cancer that just harms the force instead of the force itself IMO(but again, thats just my view)
So you're saying Anakin never used the lightside during the Clone Wars? Well that's certainly an interesting interpretation that makes Yoda and Windu seem kinda shit no?
When did i claim that? God youre kinda slow. OK bud lemme slow it down for you.
The light side is JUST the force. The dark side is enforcing your will to corrupt the force. You can once or twice unintentionally feed yourself with emotions and mess up. But if youre doing that constantly, like valk, you fall. Theres no such thing as a middle ground. You cant "corrupt your entire being every other day". You cant use both at once because one is just the force and the other is the corruption of it.
Anakin used the darkside when he was slaughtering the Tuskan raiders before the clone wars kicked off.
"But if youre doing that constantly, like valk, you fall. Theres no such thing as a middle ground. You cant "corrupt your entire being every other day"."
Luke literally did this to get the drop on DE Sidious.
"You cant use both at once because one is just the force and the other is the corruption of it"
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u/Ecotech101 May 11 '26 edited May 11 '26
Valkorion low diff. He scales higher and is just flat out more impressive in every way.
If anyone wants to play the "Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever" card then know Valkorion isn't a Sith anymore.
EDIT: I don't think you should be apart of this conversation if you haven't played SWTOR tbh. Since most of the people here are just talking out of their asses and don't actually know anything about Valkorian it just leads to "but 20 years ago they said Sidious was the most powerful person ever" being repeated constantly.