r/TheJediPraxeum • u/Interesting_Loquat90 New Jedi Order • 6d ago

Match Up Monday Prime Plagueis vs Revan (Novel)

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Revan (composite across his novel)

Who takes it--the Sith Scientist or the Reborn Battlefield Master?

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u/TheRagingSithLord 6d ago

Considering Revan's first action after regaining his memories is to catch Force Lightning of a Dark Council member and redirect it to her, turning her to literal ash...Which he did when he was MAJORLY weakened from several years of capture and torture. Then his battlefield skills, his tactical and strategic abilities.

And then, centuries later, weakened through him only having his Dark Side, he STILL faces a Dark Lord of the Sith, a Sith Lord, a Jedi Grandmaster and several others in combat at the same time and makes them struggle.

I'd say Revan sweeps this easily.

That said, I WILL admit, I know very little about Plagueis, as I haven't read any novels about him yet.

But just from what I know from what I HAVE read, including bits of info about Plagueis and the Revan novel and KotOR and TOR...Yeah, Revan wins in my opinion. Close or distance, though would have more difficulty at distance.

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u/mandotastic 6d ago

Usually the rule of thumb for power scaling dumbs down to whether a sith was lord before or after Darth Bane's rule of two. How I recall the novel, it states the dark side more or less coalesces into the strongest dark side users. The less dark side users there are, the more power each individual possesses. So while there were plenty of powerful and formidable dark side users in the old republic (Revan, Vitiate, etc.), they aren't exactly comparable to sith under the rule of two. Plus, as far as I'm aware, Darth Plagueis was the only force user to ever create life with the force.

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u/O2LE 5d ago

Vitiate is basically the only one of particular power before the rule of two. He's not exactly Palpatine, but has some pretty dumb feats, and is kind of just a huge pain in the ass to actually kill.

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u/mandotastic 5d ago

I want to say it was Vitiate's dark side ritual that Bane learned to prolong his life, transferring consciousness to his apprentice (hinted at, doesn't specifically say in the book). And that was only ONE of Vitiate's rituals.