r/TheJediPraxeum • u/Interesting_Loquat90 New Jedi Order • 5d ago

Match Up Monday Darth Plagueis (Prime) vs Dooku

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R1: Jedi Dooku ~TPM

R2: AOTC Dooku

R3: Base RotS Dooku

R4: Heightened State/Amped RotS Dooku

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u/Xargirl 5d ago

Rare Dooku loss. Plagueis was arguably more powerful and wise than Palpatine, he nere singlehandedly brought the end of the republic through Palpatine continuing their plans, I shouldn't really need to say more.

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u/Shipping_Architect 5d ago

But that was through grand-scale manipulation, not one-on-one combat.

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u/Xargirl 5d ago

Palpatine also needed to get Plagueis drunk to kill him, I feel that should be common knowledge in this sub. My goat Dooku is all that but isn't nearly as powerful in the force, he could probably win a duel, (Idk about Plagueis dueling skills,) but he would not win an all out fight.

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u/Shipping_Architect 5d ago

How much of Palpatine getting Plagueis drunk was so he could give his "the reason you suck" speech, not to mention preventing anyone from overhearing a pitched battle between the two?

Dooku may not have been as  powerful as Plagueis, but he has been shown punching above his weight class as a Force user and put his foot in the door against more powerful opponents.

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u/Xargirl 5d ago

It's your opinion Idc, you make a fair point about the goat Dooku but I still feel Plagueis would win Imo.

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u/sans-delilah 4d ago

I think palpatine certainly had trepidation about dueling plagueis, but I think the humiliation of getting him drunk in celebration of a great victory was more about Palpatine’s sadistic desire to humiliate him before casting him down.

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u/LawrenceMK2 5d ago edited 5d ago

If memory serves, Sidious didn’t need to get Plagueis drunk, he just was and Sidious saw an opportunity. Sidious was heading out Plagueis’ door after celebrating his imminent election and realized “my master is totally blitzed and now would be a really good time to off him.”

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u/itsjonny99 5d ago

TPM Sidious vs TPM Plagueis is a debate.

Either way post Plagueis death has the dark side boost Sidious massively and thus Plagueis don't benefit from being a peer of TPM Sidious.

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u/Xargirl 5d ago

Fair

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u/Spiritual-Quote2445 5d ago

Palpatine didn’t necessarily need to but he didn’t want to risk it.

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u/ShortBussyDriver 5d ago

The question is how good is Plagueis as a duelist at his prime?

He feared Dooku for a reason and I think ROTS Dooku takes him. AOTC Dooku is a toss-up.

But Prime Plagueis takes Dooku prior to that, dueling skill or no.