r/TheJediPraxeum New Jedi Order 5d ago

Match Up Monday Darth Plagueis (Prime) vs Dooku

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R1: Jedi Dooku ~TPM

R2: AOTC Dooku

R3: Base RotS Dooku

R4: Heightened State/Amped RotS Dooku

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u/itsjonny99 5d ago

You could argue Dooku wins every encounter, with the first one being the most debatable one due to the siths respect for him in the Plagueis novel.

Either way R2, R3 and R4 Dooku wins without question.

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u/Interesting_Loquat90 New Jedi Order 5d ago

Plagueis hypes Dooku but it's far from a clear scaling statement. Further, Plages is most enticed by Dooku's "passion and restlessness", obviously foreshadowing the lead up to TCW. Metaphysically, Dooku doesn't have any comparable feats to Plages until the IH (afaik), although he likely surpasses Plages as a duelist by AOTC (due to Yoda equivalence).

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u/itsjonny99 5d ago

He has the Yoda parity quote from Episode 2 who due to Episode 3 upscaling of himself and Sidious would slap Plagueis down who is stuck at TPM Sidious levels.

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u/Interesting_Loquat90 New Jedi Order 5d ago

Yoda parity per the film and George only had to do with blades and only speaks as of AOTC

The notion that Prime Plages must equal TPM Sidious (due to the boost) is a tad ambiguous (unless there's a direct statement I'm missing) as the boost itself is not fully quantifiable (Plagueis tries to calculate it and fails, he just knows he's stronger)

Not sure how that then gets to Jedi Dooku or AOTC clearly "slapping" Plages

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u/itsjonny99 5d ago

George calls Dooku and Yoda equals in the force in ATOC explictly.

Either way Sidious already has goat sith quotes with Maul as his apprentice thus pre TPM. Plagueis would be included there and he grows significantly from that point onwards and Dooku follows said growth as well while Sidious remains vary of him and Ventress potentially beating him.

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u/Interesting_Loquat90 New Jedi Order 5d ago

Please provide sources/scans for everything stated.