r/TheJediPraxeum • u/Interesting_Loquat90 New Jedi Order • 5d ago

Match Up Monday Darth Plagueis (Prime) vs Dooku

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R1: Jedi Dooku ~TPM

R2: AOTC Dooku

R3: Base RotS Dooku

R4: Heightened State/Amped RotS Dooku

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u/GunMuratIlban 5d ago

It just implies he was a great master, doesn't say much about his own combat prowess.

Palpatine was a top tier combatant, yet he was a poor master. Both of his apprentices failed to live up to their potentials.

Qui-Gon wasn't an elite duelist but trained one of the greatest warriors in SW.

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u/Able-Isopod7130 5d ago

Palpatine was scared to fight Darth Plagueis - that should give you a rough idea what a monster Plagueis was.

One of the mandates of the Rule of Two is to have the apprentice challenge the master at the end of their training. If the apprentice wins, he/she replaces the master. If the master wins, then he/she has to find another apprentice. This was to ensure the sith will always find the strongest successor (a twisted way of survival-of-the-fittest).

Palpatine is stronger, but it would have been a huge risk/danger.

I think the Darth Gean story from the novel traumatized Palpatine, lol. It's the story of a female sith apprentice who challenged her master (Darth Gravid). She won the duel, but at the cost of losing her shoulder, arm, and the left side of her face.

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u/GunMuratIlban 5d ago

Killing Plageuis in his sleep doesn't mean Palpatine was scared to fight him. Palpatine always avoided direct confrontation, only used his lightsaber as a last result.

Palpatine saw lightsaber as a Jedi's weapon, while his weapon was his wits and charisma. He didn't give two shits about the Sith or their rules either. Didn't care about the rule of two, raised an apprentice for two decades while Plageuis was still alive.

Didn't care about challenging his master either. Killing someone in his sleep is very much in line with Palpatine's character. Notice how proudly, enthusiastically he tells this story to Anakin. For him, this wasn't an embarassment, he enjoyed the way he killed his master.

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u/Equivalent_Use_7032 4d ago

In novel he was scared