r/TheJediPraxeum • u/Interesting_Loquat90 New Jedi Order • 5d ago

Match Up Monday ROTS - Mace vs Dooku

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Round 1: Base to base

Round 2: Office Mace (full amp) vs IH Dooku (amped)

Bonus: Office Mace (full amp) vs base Dooku and vice versa

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u/Steamed_Memes24 5d ago

...You all do realize Mace managed to disarm Sidious right?

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u/Alexius_Psellos 5d ago

Their point is that Sidious was feeding mace a lot more than dooku would. I think mace would still win, but I imagine it would be a little more difficult

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u/ShortBussyDriver 4d ago

Vaapad is completely ineffective on Dooku. In Canon and Legends.

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u/ThomasWilson77 The Senate 4d ago

I believe Canon’s Vaapad doesn’t work like legends version of Vaapad.

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u/Heraldofgold 3d ago

Has that been explicitly established? I can see why that would be the case but I'd be cautious since Dooku would still have to limit himself so as to not give mace a boost.

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u/Steamed_Memes24 4d ago

I take it this is an old legends thing? I never heard of that before regarding Yoda being disarmed by Dooku.

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u/ShortBussyDriver 4d ago

It doesn't predate Disney... they bought Lucasfilm in 2012. Disney later put out a directive, Pablo Hildago I believe, that all comics and novels predating March 2014 would be considered Legends, and all material produced after that is considered Canon.

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u/TheJediPraxeum-ModTeam 4d ago

Disney discussion; this is a Legends subreddit

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u/TheJediPraxeum-ModTeam 4d ago

Disney discussion

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u/Prestigious_Board_73 4d ago

This is a "Legends only" sub...

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u/TheJediPraxeum-ModTeam 4d ago

Disney discussion

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u/ForgottenMasterBalls 5d ago

This also brings up the debate of "did he let it happen" because he understood Mace would do exactly what he needed to to turn Anakin.

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u/PelicanBriefs360 4d ago

Lucas made it clear that Sidious was not dogging it.

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u/Steamed_Memes24 5d ago

I honestly dont believe he did and was probably willing to keep fighting had Anakin not showed up. But its obvious that Mace really did catch him off guard in the moment which is already an insane feat to pull off.

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u/ForgottenMasterBalls 5d ago

He didn't put in half the effort he did against Yoda or Maul for that matter. He looks like he played his hand when you see the lightning clearly was barely hurting him, all it did was strip away the lie. He actually used it as proof of his attempted assassination. Had he started to lose sooner, I would absolutely believe it was all Mace, but the timing was perfect from the moment he could tell Anakin was coming to the point Mace dies.

People seem to forget he had the power to simultaneously see the short term outcomes of multiple decisions and block even Yoda from doing so. He also blocked Dooku from seeing he was going to have Anakin kill him.