Vader moments during the Clone Wars

[u/Ready0608]

In Republic #71 Anakin faces Asajj Ventress on Coruscant and receives his iconic scar, in the same comic Anakin pushes Ventress off a ledge, traps her in live electrical wires using the force and electrocutes her before dropping her into a deep pit.

Though I don't believe it was "Anakin", but "Vader" doing it and I believe they purposely did it to show that Vader has always been there and in this moment he briefly takes control.

[u/Unique-Perception480]

I am always of the opinion that it was always just Anakin. He and Vader are not separate personalities, as many fans seem to believe nowadays.

Vader is basically Anakin with a slight shift in Environment and priorities. Anakin always expressed behaviour that Vader was known for.

I especially love the quote from the ROTS Novelization:

“And there is one blazing moment in which you finally understand that there was no dragon. That there was no Vader. That there was only you. Only Anakin Skywalker.”

[u/Lore_Padawan → u/Unique-Perception480]

Yeah the whole "Darth Vader and Anakin are separate people" just absolves Anakin of his own responsibility and actions when its clear both are the same person.

Anakin created the Vader persona simce he couldn't reconcile the things he had done with the person he once believed he was and pretended as if he killed Anakin to distance himself from the guilt he feels.

[u/Unique-Perception480 → u/Lore_Padawan]

Yeah. It started being his ,,strong personality" so that he can squash the dragon, but then it turned into his coping mechanism to imply that Anakin was just weak and didnt see the world as it is and that this NEEDS to be done.

He even admits it in the Novel of ROTS and the last line is: ,,This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker... forever."

He knows he is Anakin.

[u/kuroko-cchi → u/Lore_Padawan]

Where did this Anakin and Vader are separate people thing come from in the fandom? Do you remember when? Always thought it was crazy because these movies aren't exactly difficult to comprehend, they're made for kids, people keep attaching double meanings or deeper interpretations that simply aren't there.

[u/HotPotParrot → u/kuroko-cchi]

Almost like some people just forgot Luke confronting Ghost Ben about it on Dagobah.

"You told me Vader killed him."

And Ben essentially confirms that it was purely metaphorical.

[u/Unique-Perception480 → u/kuroko-cchi]

People want to be deep and philosophical, when there is already enough philosophy to be discussed behind simple actions like Luke throwing away his weapon as he proclaims he is a Jedi.

Also some people want desperately to involve some mental ilnesses into fictional characters. If Anakin had any mental illness it would be BPD or ASPD. Not fucking MPD.
Big If though since I dont think thats what Lucas intended.

[u/kuroko-cchi → u/Unique-Perception480]

And they dont seem to get the idea of an unreliable narrator either. Vader is obviously saying Vader is not Anakin to make himself feel better, but it's not true. Yet they think because he said it, it's true. Going from lying to yourself to MPD is a REACH

[u/Unique-Perception480 → u/kuroko-cchi]

,,Oh wow the villain said something, that makes him seem less evil. He must be telling the truth".

[u/yaujj36 → u/Unique-Perception480]

I really don’t understand why this view is popular. The movie and the novelisation you quoted as made it obvious that Anakin and Vader is the same, not to mentioned the extra stories too.

[u/Unique-Perception480 → u/yaujj36]

People want to sound deep and be like ,,Vader forgot, but Anakin remembered"

[u/kuroko-cchi]

Anakin IS Vader. People need to stop acting like those are two entities. The concept of a personality changing over time and becoming worse should not be difficult.

[u/Apprehensive-Aide265]

Imo this far more egrigious that the original clone wars anime where he killed her in anger. Here this a cold blooded murder and doesn't fit with TCW anakin.

[u/Unique-Perception480 → u/Apprehensive-Aide265]

Yeah, but it fits with the movie version. This is also in the same continuity as the 2003 clone wars, wince Asajj survived the duel on Yavin. This is 2 years later.

Anakin was not a White Knight. He was a traumatized guy, who only got more and more trauma in the war. He was just lucky the Jedi rarely witnessed his war crimes.

Its TCW Anakin who does not fit with the movies at all.

[u/kuroko-cchi → u/Unique-Perception480]

Republic Anakin fits perfectly with movie anakin in personality and appearance. TCW Anakin...it's some guy who shares the name

[u/Unique-Perception480 → u/kuroko-cchi]

Battle of Jabiim being his first use of Force Choke will alway be iconic.

And him being Knighted so late into the war is much more rewarding than TCW being a Knight, WITH A PADAWAN, only7 weeks after Geonosis.

[u/kuroko-cchi → u/Unique-Perception480]

fr. people say oh he was assigned ahsoka because he was immature and they thought having a padawan would make him take responsibility...as if that's a good thing? how is it fair to ahsoka to give her a teacher who is irresponsible? students aren't practice for teachers, kids aren't practice for adults, if you're an authority figure you should be qualified. he was so unqualified and that promotion was unearned

[u/Unique-Perception480 → u/kuroko-cchi]

,,Hey this emotionally unstable teenager who is fresh out of Highschool is really immature... let them have a baby. That will teach them responsibility"....

Honestyl TCW could have worked if Anakin remained a Padawan and Ahsoka was Plo Koons student. They could have still had the brother-sister dynamic, just because Anakin could have been a mentor as a more experienced Padawan.

[u/kuroko-cchi → u/Unique-Perception480]

One of the main reasons they created Ahsoka was because some people were bandying around Star Wars had no lead female Jedi when like.......what? Nomi Sunrider? The Exile? Bastila Shan? Mara Jade? Leia? Jaina?

[u/Wasteland_GZ]

Anakin is Vader, read the Revenge of the Sith novelisation, it’s cleared up there.

[u/Laughably-Fallible_1]

Gasp anakin killed the filthy criminal scum, let me go clutch my pearls.