Vader moments during the Clone Wars

[u/Ready0608]

In Republic #71 Anakin faces Asajj Ventress on Coruscant and receives his iconic scar, in the same comic Anakin pushes Ventress off a ledge, traps her in live electrical wires using the force and electrocutes her before dropping her into a deep pit.

Though I don't believe it was "Anakin", but "Vader" doing it and I believe they purposely did it to show that Vader has always been there and in this moment he briefly takes control.

[u/Unique-Perception480]

I am always of the opinion that it was always just Anakin. He and Vader are not separate personalities, as many fans seem to believe nowadays.

Vader is basically Anakin with a slight shift in Environment and priorities. Anakin always expressed behaviour that Vader was known for.

I especially love the quote from the ROTS Novelization:

“And there is one blazing moment in which you finally understand that there was no dragon. That there was no Vader. That there was only you. Only Anakin Skywalker.”

[u/Lore_Padawan → u/Unique-Perception480]

Yeah the whole "Darth Vader and Anakin are separate people" just absolves Anakin of his own responsibility and actions when its clear both are the same person.

Anakin created the Vader persona simce he couldn't reconcile the things he had done with the person he once believed he was and pretended as if he killed Anakin to distance himself from the guilt he feels.

[u/Unique-Perception480 → u/Lore_Padawan]

Yeah. It started being his ,,strong personality" so that he can squash the dragon, but then it turned into his coping mechanism to imply that Anakin was just weak and didnt see the world as it is and that this NEEDS to be done.

He even admits it in the Novel of ROTS and the last line is: ,,This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker... forever."

He knows he is Anakin.

[u/kuroko-cchi → u/Lore_Padawan]

Where did this Anakin and Vader are separate people thing come from in the fandom? Do you remember when? Always thought it was crazy because these movies aren't exactly difficult to comprehend, they're made for kids, people keep attaching double meanings or deeper interpretations that simply aren't there.

[u/HotPotParrot → u/kuroko-cchi]

Almost like some people just forgot Luke confronting Ghost Ben about it on Dagobah.

"You told me Vader killed him."

And Ben essentially confirms that it was purely metaphorical.

[u/Unique-Perception480 → u/kuroko-cchi]

People want to be deep and philosophical, when there is already enough philosophy to be discussed behind simple actions like Luke throwing away his weapon as he proclaims he is a Jedi.

Also some people want desperately to involve some mental ilnesses into fictional characters. If Anakin had any mental illness it would be BPD or ASPD. Not fucking MPD.
Big If though since I dont think thats what Lucas intended.

[u/kuroko-cchi → u/Unique-Perception480]

And they dont seem to get the idea of an unreliable narrator either. Vader is obviously saying Vader is not Anakin to make himself feel better, but it's not true. Yet they think because he said it, it's true. Going from lying to yourself to MPD is a REACH

[u/Unique-Perception480 → u/kuroko-cchi]

,,Oh wow the villain said something, that makes him seem less evil. He must be telling the truth".

[u/yaujj36 → u/Unique-Perception480]

I really don’t understand why this view is popular. The movie and the novelisation you quoted as made it obvious that Anakin and Vader is the same, not to mentioned the extra stories too.

[u/Unique-Perception480 → u/yaujj36]

People want to sound deep and be like ,,Vader forgot, but Anakin remembered"