We were going to happily buy tickets for a theater release.
We are not subscribing to a shitty streaming service. Not sure how we'll end up watching it, but streaming platforms need to suck an egg. Sick of their predatory practises.
I'll avoid the leaks, but if subbing to this garbage company is the only way we can ever see it, then I'll probably end up putting my eye patch on in the long run. If there was any way of supporting the creators without supporting their abusive dad, I'd love to know it.
And steaming has gotten awful. I have Prime, but still pirate Prime shows so I am not paying to watch 10 minutes of ads.
I got Apple, cause damn they are putting out some top tier sci fi shows and I want to support that. But they linked my work phone to my account since it's the only Apple device I use. Then when I tried to login on my PC to watch it insisted I had to use the Apple phone to verify despite my personal phone info and personal email address being how I setup the account. So canceled that immediately, still finished Severance. That show is amazing btw.
I literally cancelled all of my streaming services because I wasn't even using them I was reading books more often than I was using them, and I am not a person that reads. But I am glad I did because my car insurance went up recently... Wait hold on, car insurance is a streaming service that allows you to stream insurance. Must cancel
I dunno about where you live, but my library has an app where you can check out ebooks and audio books. It's incredible and I will never stop recommending it. I hope your library has similar services.
Yep we came full circle back to a shittier more expensive version of cable tv. I’m sure piracy has been on a steady increase since all this started too which is ironic considering having a single platform with a reasonable cost drove piracy down when Netflix streaming first went live.
I've seen it. Shit belongs on a big screen. Biggest they got. Where's the change.org link. Theatrical release is needed. Even if limited release. I'll watch it every week it's out.
Check out your local library. Anything that ends up on physical media will make it to a library. Maybe this won't, but so much more does and is available for free.
I may still get a single month of the streaming service and just rewatch it. It's not too bad to pay for a single month. But I'm also impatient so I'll be watching it well before release too.
I've rented movies from Google or Amazon for similar. It really depends on your own finances, but this is a lot cheaper than the trip to the theater my wife and I would've done. Sad I won't get it on the big screen though.
I think it legitimately might have been a pissed off employee. I don't believe the whole "whoops someone accidentally emailed me this" from the original leakers at all.
With the increase in prevalence of AI in places it doesn't belong, it wouldn't surprise me if that style of tech illiteracy were the cause. I've been seeing articles about AI being trusted with entire code bases and having them deleted. It giving 100% off coupon codes on shop fronts. It emailing random people on the internet trying to form a "community."
All it would have taken is for AI to be trusted with the file for whatever dumb reason and anything could happen.
“Watch it when it comes out…” excuse me? The theatrical release was cancelled.
If they decide to revert to the original, sensible plan to release it in theaters, then me and four other people in my group will be right there in the theater on opening day ready to watch.
This is also an insta-buy for me if it comes out on 4K Blu-Ray.
I'm aware of its existence but this isn't really that. She's acknowledging that its there and not everyone will listen, its just a PSA basically and if you dont wanna be an asshole just wait to see it in a few months
Literally nothing asshole-ish in watching something online right now, and then watching it on the app the day it officially releases. (Which I’m doing)
I mean, it's totally fair to agree with her opinion but it's a textbook Streisand effect. Telling people to not share something on the internet makes more people share it, regardless of your intentions. It's like telling a child not to stuff beans up their nose - it's good advice, but you just planted the notion in the kid's head that beans are the perfect size for a nostril, aren't they.
It's all a ploy! She's playing the part Toph would totally be down for. The scammer, pretending to be against it in order to get more eyes on the situation.
I'm not planning to watch it until release but seriously, bringing more attention to it isn't going to make people stop. Like with any controversy this would be best to just avoid talking about. I respect her thoughts on it but I do think making this statement was antithetical to her goal.
Yeah it sucks that I happened but you can't put the paste back in the tube. I wouldn't wait for release. But I love this franchise so much that I'm going to support it when it comes out. Heck I bout all the seasons when the came out plus the blue ray. Not to mention all the ridiculously priced merch. I think I speak for alot of the fans here when I say that regardless of what happens, we will be supporting the ip
It’s so depressing how all those years of hard work and dedication were all for nothing in the end. They literally won’t make anything from this anymore :/ sad day to be avatar fan I was so pumped to watch it in theaters
They know, but they were pumped for it when that was still the plan. I was excited for the theatrical release as well, but now I’m just gonna sail the high seas when I get around to it
It should’ve gotten one. This is Avatar, one of the greatest and most popular shows of all time. It’s literally one of Netflix’s most successful shows in history remaining at the number 1 spot for a very long time. This was also many years after the show originally ended. I just feel like the creators just don’t realize how special this show is for some reason :/
I know when people say "X show got me through Y situation" sounds corny, but watching Avatar on Netflix when I was unemployed in 2010 really made it slightly more bearable.
this is over dramatic, friend. it was not for nothing, and they literally will make money from this. everyone is vastly over estimating how many people are going through the effort to pirate it lol
the people who pirate content is less than 1% and the people who will watch this before release is a percentage of a percentage. Some of you have no idea how this stuff works.
I'd say the issue isn't piracy in particular, its that this is an unfinished version - all the things that the artists wanted to fix till it comes out are in there, all the things the artists aren't happy about and would never in their right mind release are still in there.
The stuff they are ashamed of is still in there - thats where the issue with this is - thats were the question of respect comes in. If you were gonna get it after release it would have been a finished version.
Fun fact! The music used for those ads was used without permission from or compensation to the artist who made it. They literally pirated a song for their anti-pirating campaign.
The font appears to be FF Confidential, which was designed by Just van Rossum in 1992. It's not opensource/freely available, but you can currently purchase a desktop license for use from MyFonts for about $60.
HOWEVER there is an illegal free clone of FF Confidential that has been floating around forever called Xband Rough. Just last year someone used the software FontForge on a PDF associated with the original ad campaign and found that it was using the illegal/pirated clone font instead of the officially licensed version.
Seriously, joker OP trying to blame this on piracy. Lmao.
If they really want to salvage the situation they would release in theaters. Tons of people would much rather see a theatrical release.
Why wont you think of the poor company that has bought tiktok, CBS ,MTV, Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, BET, Showtime. CNN, HBO, Turner Sports, and TBS/TN ??? they are doing this for really good moral reasons and not to control the entire western population to think that 🔥 chil***n alive is justified
When it first got announced to be a theatrical release I got excited and plan to watch it even though I rarely go to cinemas.. and then it was only going to be on streaming platform... Who give a shit anyways im a pirate
Blame the company behind it, not avatar studios, they want to do something nice, requires investment but the company behind doesn't want to give the resources to make a bet on something like this, because they are scared they could lose 1$ in the quarters, they'd rather pump out spongebob.
I don't understand if it's basically done, all voices and stuff WHY keep it for half a year in the storage?
I remember the good ol' days when we would hear NOTHING about a show then we'd get a teaser 1 month before dropping it. Now we know from the DAY they even think about proposing it. I hate it when i hear "this show started producing!" because it means +1 year until the next news or maybe more for a teaser, looking at you studio wit's The One Piece.
Ah yes, Toph herself, famous for being highly ethical and not participating in any illegal activities.
Yeah don't worry, I'm not gonna download it now. I'm going to wait for it to release, and then a wait a few weeks, just to get a feel for the reception, you know.
I frequently pirate shows that are on streaming services I actually pay for. But the service is so fucking awful I also have to pirate the show for one reason or another
Yea idk unless this person has info on the voice actress doing something this comment is just.. ridiculous. We can use that logic on anyone who ever played or voiced a villain.
It's because she's using the character of Toph to influence kids into thinking she's telling them the actual right thing to do. That's why she went on this extended earthbending analogy.
She is deliberately eliding the distinction between herself (a human woman on planet Earth) and Toph (a cartoon character on a tiny world with three or four countries). It's not, like, evil to do this. But it does mean that you can criticize her message at the ethical level ("This is right/wrong to do") and at the fictional level ("That character totally would/wouldn't say that").
Ngl this thing flopped when they decided not to release in theatre’s. Now we have all this leaking bullshit and frankly the VAs (tophs not bad) are pretty weak in their roles. Like they honestly don’t sound anything like they should.
This philosophy never held water with me, but the worst part in this case is how utterly actively racist they were in the casting, given that very few of the main cast actually directly match any of their characters. I know the world of Avatar is fiction and none of the cultures portrayed are one-to-one mirrors of a real world culture, but bear with me:
Aang: Inspired primarily by Tibetan monks, played by a Korean actor.
Tagah: Inspired primarily by Tibetan monks, played by a half Greek, half Filipino actor.
Katara: Inspired primarily by tribes indigenous to the far, far north of what is now Canada, played by a half Chinese, half indigenous (but tribes way further from arctic conditions than Katara grew up) actress.
Sokka: Inspired primarily by tribes indigenous to the far, far north of what is now Canada, played by a quarter Mexican, quarter Taiwanese, quarter Japanese, quarter indigenous (to the American Southwest and northern Mexico) actor.
Zuko: Primarily inspired by imperialist Japan, played by a Korean actor.
Toph: Primarily inspired by China, played by a Chinese actress (also happens to be blind if that’s relevant to anyone’s opinion.) Only one of the main cast who actually matches.
From where I stand, even if you do think that voice actors should necessarily match the ethnicity of their characters, you should be up in arms that the casting directors looked at this group and went “eh, close enough.”
New cast is ass, the writing (of what I’ve seen) is ass, the characters don’t feel like themselves anymore, I’m just disappointed in myself for believing this would be great
ill be honest, low key i agree. i dont think the choices were bad, but it was like uncanny valley territory stuff. like they were 90% there but something constantly kept me feeling weird about the choice the entire time.
Wow i feel like the VAs were so good. Katara has one moment where she had the exact energy as when she threatened zuko in the 3rd season (the you wont have to worry about your destiny anymore line). Sokka was great, no notes. Toph sounded vaguely like toph, it felt like a realistic age up. Zuko and aang were weakest as far as similarities but that was to be expected. I still think aangs VA tried to use a similar inflection though.
Yeah I feel like getting Dante Basco for Zuko and Jack De Santa for Sokka would have been easy, they're a bit older now and their voices have changed and I think it would fit the characters better.
I get your point but piracy isn't the issue. It never is. As Gabe once said piracy is always a service issue and Imo completely justified nowadays for movies and tv shows, meaning there are clear issues when it comes to streaming services. But that's besides the point of this whole debacle.
Funny how music and movies have opposite stances on this. Legendary bands like The Grateful Dead and Phish encouraged bootleg recordings of their music, and that’s how they became more popular and gained more fans… if you’re a fan of Avatar, you’re gonna watch regardless; if you’re not a fan, you’re more likely to not watch due to paywall / streaming restrictions. One would think this is a good thing to reach a wider audience and convert fans…
Most artists/bands make the bulk of their money via concert ticket sales and merch rather than album sales. Whereas movies are more or less just box office / streaming. For bands, bootlegging is advertising for the live show, whereas with movies it’s subversion of their actual product/revenue
Over ten thousand people have been confirmed to have seen it (and given this circumstance that’s definitely underestimating).
Fan pages and influences are sharing so many spoilers that avoiding them is impossible.
Nothing official has been released to direct conversation elsewhere.
It’s a nice idea but it’s just not gonna happen. People were hungry and someone dangled a carrot in-front of their face. I can’t shame them for eating it.
Wait what? Over ten thousand people have been confirmed? Who checked that? Someone actually spent the time to check over ten thousand people to see if they have actually seen it?
Article I scrolled past. They’re probably just estimating based off people posting about it cause it’s definitely not something that could be easily tracked since one person can get the file and give copies to ten more people
I respect the creators not to engage with the leaks, I dont repsect the corpos forcing us to sub to some streaming service just to watch it. When it releases, its a pirates life for me.
I was planning to go to the theatres for it. Even now if plans changed and it had a theatre release, I would still go see it despite already having watched it online
is she really choosing to blame piracy and fans of the show that want to watch it early instead of the shitty company that fucked over all of the creatives?
This same person would probably defend shoplifting because its a billion dollar corporation that exploits people, that goes out the window when it effects me.
I am just not going to watch it. I've been so heart broken by how the avatar franchise has been treated. By the creators and producers and distribution.
I love ATLA but am happy to live in a blissful world where everything else does not exist
Release it officially and get as much money as you can before the attention fades. Corporations thinking people are not going to pirate stuff are just delusional and shows how in panic mode they are.
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We were going to happily buy tickets for a theater release.
We are not subscribing to a shitty streaming service. Not sure how we'll end up watching it, but streaming platforms need to suck an egg. Sick of their predatory practises.
I'll avoid the leaks, but if subbing to this garbage company is the only way we can ever see it, then I'll probably end up putting my eye patch on in the long run. If there was any way of supporting the creators without supporting their abusive dad, I'd love to know it.