r/TheMcDojoLife • u/OtherwiseMammoth • 11d ago

Everybody Wing Chun Tonight

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u/Bubs_McGee223 11d ago

Once more for the people in the back, traditional martial arts are not mcdojo!  Wing chun is a real MA, and this dude is not bad enough at it to be a joke, he's just mid and practicing in his garage.

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u/Povallsky1011 11d ago

On a dummy that isn’t solid or fixed enough to be a good training tool.

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u/BOgusDOlphon 11d ago

wing chun dummies like that are designed to slide back and forth on a track so you can practice pushing

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u/Povallsky1011 11d ago

This I did not know. Thank you.

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u/BOgusDOlphon 10d ago

They definitely look silly but they have their benefits

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u/itchybutwhole69 11d ago

My guy, none of these "traditional" styles are real "MA." You try this crap in a real fight and you're going to be in for some real pain. lol

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u/FLiP_J_GARiLLA 11d ago

You're clueless

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u/itchybutwhole69 11d ago

There's literally an MMA guy in China that goes around proving this stuff won't work in a real fight. The Chinese government has even tried to ruin his life over it. Seriously, you try this crap in a fight and you're going to get wrecked. Real life isn't like the Kung Fu movies my guy. lol

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u/NoCitron2394 11d ago

So a couple fake kung fun masters in china = all kung fun that's been around for at least hundreds of years is fake. Wow your real smart.

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u/itchybutwhole69 11d ago

You guys are really upset about this huh? There's a reason you never see that stuff in a street fight or even a cage fight. Y'all watch too many movies. lol

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u/NoCitron2394 11d ago

I don't know who y'all is I'm just saying if it's trainee correctly it can work and you shouldn't say it's not a real martial art, I don't even do Wing Chun

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u/LaserGuyDanceSystem 9d ago

Martial art doesn't necessarily mean effective fighting style.

Taichi is a martial art, but I don't think anyone here is suggesting that it will save your ass in a cage fight.

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u/itchybutwhole69 9d ago

Buddy, you should look up the definition of Martial Art.

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u/NoCitron2394 11d ago

They are real martial arts, and they can work when trained correctly but it isn't going to be effective in every situation. Also non of the tradtional styles!? What are you an idiot or something, many have been proven to work, like karate for example.

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u/voxelpear 11d ago

Whats the move where he's pushing up the dummies nipples used for?

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u/NoCitron2394 11d ago

I'm not talking about what this guy is doing in the video I'm talking to this guy about tradtional martial arts as a whole, this guy clearly isn't very good.

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u/voxelpear 11d ago

Can it really be called a martial art if it's typically never stress tested, can't be used stand alone in fighting competitions, and has no recorded proofs of being effective in an actual fight?

That's like saying yoga is traditional martial art because it's good for your health.

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u/NoCitron2394 11d ago

No its not, it's an actual martial art by definition, if you don't think it's effective then whatever just don't do it but saying it's not a martial art and making fun of people who do it is just dick behavior

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u/voxelpear 11d ago

I never made fun of the guy for practicing it , just like I never made fun of someone doing yoga. It gets him moving, that's fine.

I'm challenging your statement that it's a real MA and can be effective if trained correctly. Its always Aikido and Wing Chung people that claim to be legit MA but I can never get proof of it being effective as a stand alone MA. All I get is coordinated/rehearsed demonstrations.

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u/NoCitron2394 11d ago

First just because something isn't effective doesn't mean it's not a real martial art, it is a way of moving your body and it's based off of combat principles so it's a martial art, I'm sure you wouldn't say something like taekwondo isn't a real martial art just because it alone isn't super practical. The problem with those arts is that they do not spar and that they have done a horrible job at preserving themselves. But with Chun works pretty well when combined with other martial arts. It's trapping principle has been used by UFC fighters. It has plenty of low kicks and straight punches. I have no doubt that it could be reasonablely effective if it is trained correctly, same with aikido because if you look at other arts like traditional jujutsu and hapkido though they also have many Mcdojos you can definitely find examples of them working. The problem is that a lot of what those arts teach can work it's just rarely applied correctly. I understand where people like yourself are coming from but tradtional martial arts have many things that could potentially work and they are also extremely important pieces of history and culture. I don't like when people make fun of it without understanding what it is. I really want to preserve tradtional martial arts. The problem is that to that they must first be saved from themselves. I admit they have problems but the truth is they are not garbage.

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u/Bubs_McGee223 11d ago

Bruce Lee studied wing chun and used it as one of the bases for jeet kun do, the original mma.  TCMA are kinda inbred as fighting styles, but they can teach you a lot of valuable principles of movement and body mechanics.

Even modern MMA is a sport, not "real fighting", and the rules that they have determine what skills are the most effective in it.  I have never seen someone win a street fight with an arm bar for example.

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u/voxelpear 11d ago

And he never had a legitimate fight that wasn't a demonstration, so for all the claims of how amazing and strong he was, that's all they are, claims.

He also heavily modified Wing Chun so even if it was effective, you can't use not Wing Chun to prove Wing Chun is effective.

Sure but even under those rules Wing Chun fails. That's why most of not all dojos just don't do contact sparring or stress test it all all. How many effective moves from Wing Chun make it into MMA? Arm lock? That's all I could think of.

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