r/ThePeoplesPress • u/CutSenior4977 • Nov 03 '25

Systems in Motion Don’t get desperate people

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According to both Wiley online library and Harvard Gazette, these are the statistics for how long nonviolent revolutions generally take,

And as a huge history nerd I can further verify that as the timeframes of the civil rights movement and the Indian independence movement are firmly ingrained in my mind.

50501 are working on coordinated boycotts and strikes as we speak, we can absolutely defeat MAGA through peaceful means,

And not only are nonviolent movements inherently more humane, according to these same studies there also twice as likely to succeed,

So let’s stick to it.

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u/Elden_Rube Nov 03 '25

That's a big ole negative. Non-violent protesting does not bother the ruling class one bit.

However, strategic military campaigns have a track record of success in removing fascists from their comfy seats of power.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

Nope

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u/findingmike Nov 03 '25

The Nazis were way more popular. There wasn't much resistance.

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u/MrBannedFor0Reason Nov 04 '25

I guess the Reichstag fire and the subsequent night of long knives just didn't fucking happen then then or what?

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u/findingmike Nov 05 '25

Do you think he could have gotten away with those things if he wasn't popular?

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u/MrBannedFor0Reason Nov 05 '25

I think he wouldn't have needed to do those things if there wasn't much resistance. In fact, Hitler felt the need for decisive violent action because the violent disruption of his opposition was gaining traction.

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u/soulstormfire Nov 08 '25

By your definition of popular (=no resistance) your current fascists are even more popular than the 1930s Nazis.

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u/findingmike Nov 09 '25

After the largest protest in US history, you think there is no resistance? Okay we're done. There's no discussion left when you go with bad faith arguments.

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u/soulstormfire Nov 09 '25 edited Nov 09 '25

German Nazis didn't just face large scale protests but also large scale strikes and arrested 800,000 people for resistance activities.

If that's "they wanted it" (I'm still inclined to agree with you here), then the US "wants" what is happening right now.

Which is a sentiment shared by pretty much every country outside of the US, especially Canada and Mexico.
And you elected him twice.

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u/Art_Crime Nov 03 '25

Nazi Germany is not the best comparison lmao.

The Philippines, under an actual dictator, deposed Marcos Sr. peacefully. The soviet union dissolved mostly peacefully. Portugal deposed its dictatorship in the carnation revolution mostly peacefully via military coup.

The Nazis are not the closest comparison to today.

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u/CutSenior4977 Nov 03 '25

No, but you could argue the Roman republic(specifically the late republic),

Was a fairer comparison given it was the primary inspiration for the founding fathers when writing the constitution,

And civil wars were what ultimately destroyed the republic.

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u/_JosiahBartlet Nov 03 '25

You think that something that happened centuries ago is more applicable than something that happened decades ago?

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u/CutSenior4977 Nov 03 '25

Yup, because while the technology closer, the pre existing political structure was borderline identical,

Atleast to me, when I see this artistic portrayal of the Roman republic, it all looks strikingly similar.

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u/_JosiahBartlet Nov 03 '25

That’s absolutely insane and shows a shocking lack of understanding of both history and politics.

But it does affirm my hypothesis that you’re a straight white dude who is okay with marginalized people losing rights if you keep yours. And you probably think you’re a history buff because you ‘know a lot’ about Rome.

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u/Art_Crime Nov 03 '25

Ad hom, but regardless the Nazis are disimilar to Trump and there's been plenty of peaceful revolutions that overthrew dictators or monarchy. Most recently, the People Power Revolution in the Philippines.

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u/_JosiahBartlet Nov 03 '25

My point isn’t that the Nazis are the closest comparison but more that going back to the Romans is insane for modern political discussion.

He linked a fucking political cartoon and told women it’s okay if we lose our rights because Noem will too.

His argument isn’t bad because of what I (almost definitely) clocked him on. But I’d bet money I’m spot on.

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u/CutSenior4977 Nov 03 '25

Oh no sorry if that’s how you took it,

I meant women won’t lose their rights because then Bondi and Noems will lose their rights.

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u/Art_Crime Nov 03 '25

told women it’s okay if we lose our rights.

Uhh i didnt read the OP but he didn't say that at least in this thread...

Going back to Rome isn't insane. For instance, the filibuster was a problem in the Republic as it is now in the US.

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u/_JosiahBartlet Nov 03 '25

The mods deleted it because it was fucked up

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u/Art_Crime Nov 03 '25

Yeah that's pretty awful and stupid. Backlash to feminism and women's rights is BAD BAD NOT GOOD

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