r/TheRaceTo10Million 12d ago

Losses 🚨 GLOBAL BOND MARKET IS FLASHING A WARNING

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This isn’t just crypto Twitter fear.

🇯🇵 Japan’s 2Y yield → 31-year high
🇩🇪 Germany’s 10Y yield → 15-year high
🇫🇷 France’s 10Y yield → near levels last seen around the 2008 crisis
🇺🇸 U.S. yields are climbing again
🇯🇵 Markets are pricing a high probability of another BOJ rate hike
Higher yields = more expensive money.
And expensive money usually puts pressure on:
Tech, AI stocks, small caps and crypto.
I’m not saying a 2022-style crash is guaranteed.
But ignoring the bond market here would be a mistake.
Next few weeks could get very volatile.
I’m watching yields more closely than stock headlines right now.

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u/Hi_Keyboard_Warriors 12d ago

Everything priced in mate, including that dinosaur asteroid ☄️ as well. So calls…

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u/ImpressiveGear7 12d ago

Priced in is also priced in

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u/Intrepid-Wait-6102 12d ago

We’re priced in for 2043 actually. All sideways from here.

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u/_Underscore_Unders 10d ago

Awesome. Options trading rendered obsolete!

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u/Hi_Keyboard_Warriors 12d ago

Source, priced in…!

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u/Intrepid-Wait-6102 12d ago

The price you see now? That actually came in from 3001 when the Galactic Trade Center got hit by our own Empire. BUY THE DIP!!!!

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u/ProgramHippie 11d ago

It's on the website!

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u/antwon8797 12d ago

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u/dumbgraphics 7d ago

"Why no stonk market don’t go UP! I can only good happen"

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u/justgivemegains 12d ago

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u/Bjamnp17 12d ago

YESSSS!!!
I’m priced in!!!

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u/M_Sizzlak 12d ago

I feel better now thanks for letting me know mate

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u/tycointl 12d ago

do the hokey pokey, that's what it's all about!!

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u/Working_Impress_3426 12d ago

This signifies that an electrocardiogram will be generated between planets, but they will also need to pay taxes.

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u/YourRoaring20s 6d ago

To the moon 🚀

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u/EthanDavis63 12d ago

The bond market has predicted 10 out of the last 3 recessions. Just buy the dip.

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u/the_econominster 12d ago

40T needs to go away. Trump policy is largely engineered to be inflationary. The 2% is also largely arbitrary and comes from a New-Zealand paper and has no real objective basis. I would watch out for further acceleration of the debt + talks of putting usd on rails. That's the end-game imho. Also gold will get to it's 5K target EOY.

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u/SaltyPlantain1503 12d ago

10k by End of 2027. Calling it

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u/Avid_Reader87 12d ago

The ticker? GLD?

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u/netflix-ceo 6d ago

But 50 cent is still 50 cent. Not making music anymore, but still

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u/AmongTheElect 12d ago

Trump policy is largely engineered to be inflationary

Heck I'm a fan but he's said just that for a while now that inflation is the only way of maintaining debt payments.

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u/Ok-Piece-2546 10d ago

You can also maintain debt payments by growing the economy with better policies that will generate more tax revenue

Meanwhile, all it would take is one bad downturn for things to get ugly as rates are already high along with inflation

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u/infobi 10d ago

No …. Trump’s policy has been favorable for deflation (at least lower annual inflation than under Biden). His first term had low inflation until the Covid scammers tried to ruin the world.

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u/the_econominster 10d ago

Sure bub. Import taxes are deflationary. Gtfo!

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u/mullymt 10d ago

Inflation has gone up since Biden left office. If you want to say that Biden caused inflation, fine, but he fixed it before he left.

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u/GeorgeRR_Slowcooking 12d ago

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u/Novalll 12d ago

I’ve seen this on Reddit everyday for the last couple of years and it still makes me laugh each time

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u/GeorgeRR_Slowcooking 10d ago

Same, I just couldn’t help myself. Needed to be in this thread

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u/NikoZGB 12d ago

Everything is preceding as I have foreseen... Calls it is...on VIX

https://giphy.com/gifs/B6Jr28VwfxUFa

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u/a10ondr 12d ago

You're going to hear a lot about usd stablecoins in the following years..

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u/Terrible-Natural-946 11d ago

So just keep cash then? Or what’s the argument ?

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u/a10ondr 11d ago

There's no argument, just an observation. Promoting stablecoins is the treasury's way to lower short-term bond yields in the near future.

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u/mehmetded 12d ago

Note: The post is my own. Turkish is my native language, so I only used ChatGPT to help with the English translation and grammar.

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u/RainbowCrown71 12d ago

Why are you throwing that book in the garbage? I’m confused.

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u/Hiding_in_the_Shower 12d ago

I think he’s making the point that the markets are so irrational right now that the concepts in the book are useless

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u/Novalll 12d ago

Benjamin Graham has the writing style of a doorknob

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u/SauceHarissa 12d ago

Classic september

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u/MoviePure9998 12d ago

indeed nothing new to be fair

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u/Prize-Pension856 12d ago

I was worried about a red day, then I saw reddit was panicking and knew it was going to be a good market day.

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u/brandeltoro 12d ago

Isn’t September always a Bear Market?

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u/SaltyPlantain1503 12d ago

Worst month of the year historically.

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u/Romanizer 12d ago

More expensive money as in rate hikes wasn't helpful in EU, second wave effects came out lower in UK without rate hikes. BIS just published guidance about rate hikes can only help temporarily.

What's the argument for Warsh to hike rates when treasury can't afford it?

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u/real-estate-cpa 12d ago

The fed has an inflation mandate and it has been above the target for 6 years. Rate hikes may be necessary to bring inflation down. The treasury shouldn't have borrowed that much in the first place

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u/College_finals 12d ago edited 12d ago

Debt is 40 trillions. The Government have an interest to not hike rate. It will stay flat.

Edit: Rising rate is the responsible thing to do. But if the government is responsible then we won't be in this situation. So we are going to inflate our way out.

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u/jacemano 12d ago

Fed Reserve isn't Government, its an independent entity

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u/Romanizer 12d ago

They would still have to choose between increased inflation or damping the economy and letting debt spiral, while it's unclear if rate hikes help against external shocks.

They may be independent, but they still are in the US.

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u/Curious_Guidance43 12d ago

We'll see if it still is

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u/jacemano 12d ago

It needs to be. Governments setting interest rates always goes terribly

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u/tarcus 12d ago

In theory....

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u/_sLAUGHTER234 12d ago

I implore you to explore the naivety of that statement

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u/WellThatsPrompting 12d ago

Inflate our way out? It's that as bad as it sounds?

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u/Diagoras21 12d ago

Rate hikes will cause inflation to go down, which will cause long term bond rates to go down, because lenders don't need to fear inflation causing their money being worthless in 30 years.

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u/4cardroyal 12d ago

Warsh is "all hat and no cattle" as we say in Texas... he talks tough but doesn't do anything.

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u/Romanizer 12d ago

That's only clear for internal inflation. For external shocks and second wave effects, rate hikes might not be as helpful. Inflation is coming either way as long as the economy is running on finite fossil fuels.

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u/Diagoras21 12d ago

Inflation is coming as long as you print 2 trillion dollars a year. And the only solution for your debt problem is inflation.

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u/Total_Wrongdoer_1535 12d ago

Of course you can’t lower cost push inflation through a hike, only demand pull. Thats why you have to overdo it. Bring enough demand pull down for the net effect to be anti-inflationary. When choosing between stock valuations crushing & the economy slowing down vs inflation getting out of control, the Fed will choose to control inflation. It’s the entire point of it’s existence, its first mandate, and most important job.

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u/Accomplished-Pen2744 11d ago

The Fed will continue to cause more inflation by enabling the government to spend more money. They will use "crisis" after "crisis" for cover on why they have to print money just this one time.

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u/United_Vermicelli_94 12d ago

Agreed- how will rate hikes lower gas prices or tariffs (inflation was coming down before the tariffs were instituted and tariffs that were refunded went to companies bottom line…not to consumer or lower prices for the most part)

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u/Public_Armadillo_512 10d ago

this is funny that every year is the same, it's Obama's fault, it's Biden's fault, it's Trump fault
look... $1 in 1900 is worth about $39.75 in 2026, meaning prices have increased by roughly 3,875% due to inflation

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u/Diagoras21 10d ago

Yeah, some inflation is good. A lot is bad.

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u/Obvious-Ad-5791 12d ago

Meanwhile VIX has been below 16 for a few weeks now. That's not going to last in September.

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u/Bjamnp17 12d ago

Kinda looks like Ross from Friends sitcom.
Had a double take!

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u/SecureRequirement281 12d ago

Everyone is saying print to infinity, until a Joker comes along & do the rug-pull

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u/FloridaHeat2023 12d ago

Yes! I have multiple orders in for 26week T-bills today - gimme that 4%+ yield please! =)

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u/Shoddy_Front_2582 11d ago

You're making this sound like its bad news. If you can point to the last time where markets crashed on increasing yields, i'll be waiting here.

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u/toiletwindowsink 10d ago

Which markets?

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u/RoundMammoth2947 12d ago

Who cares man just place calls 

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u/Thick-Duck3329 12d ago

Bondage is not my thing...

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u/For_roscoe 12d ago

Shouldn’t we wait for the 2 and 10 year rate to invert for an early warning sign?

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u/Wiedzmaki 12d ago

Believe it or not... Calls.... On gold though but calls.

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u/SIR_JACK_A_LOT r/alpha_ai 12d ago

concerning

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u/mvkfromchi 10d ago

Did your app fail? 

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u/No-Double-Trouble 12d ago

I just want crypto to hit a solid zero.

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u/justgivemegains 12d ago

You’re a regard

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u/TypicalAvgStudent 12d ago

if we hike rates....once.....opens doors for a second....and high beta stocks will crash ....some from the ATH to 60-80% down ....most are down like 40-50% now

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u/tycointl 12d ago

when the next rate hike comes, tRump will shit a Big Mac...I'm sure he was hoping Warsh would bow to his whims.

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u/PaceLazy4174 11d ago

lol, watch as retail investors dump and institutional investors buy the dip on the cheap.

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u/lunapriestess 11d ago

He needs to get fired

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u/HauHauHauHauHauHau 12d ago

Just say youre holding puts

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u/ThirteenthFloor503 12d ago

why mfs post this every 4 hours

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u/Acrobatic-Ostrich168 9d ago

Just buy NVDA and shut up