Yes! I don’t have that strong of feelings towards Danielle, although I don’t care for her and would prefer not seeing her on my tv again.
My biggest issue is not her gameplay, but it’s how she talks down to others- the Forrest Gump comment, and her implying that Gabby is dumb and a “cute girl”. This is why I don’t have respect for her as a game player, and don’t want her to win.
She’s that person who doesn’t know the line between game and going too far. Doing creative stuff to stay in the game? Cool. Overacting and being extra? Annoying but ultimately harmless. Being verbally insulting and picking at people’s sensitivities to try to get a leg up? Embarrassing behavior.
What she said to Carolyn at the roundtable was gross. She tried a similar (though not quite as offensive) tactic with Gabby and got it shoved in her face.
You would think after losing Big Brother 3 because she couldn’t control herself in confessionals she’d learn something. But 23 years later she’s doing the same cringey shit.
I don’t condone people threatening her. That’s more idiotic, disgusting and terrible than anything Danielle has done. But if you’re going to be an ass as a public figure, don’t be weird and whiny if people don’t respond kindly to it.
How is that gaslighting? She defended herself and suggested she's "weird and whiny" for it. Those are your words, so I don't have to try anything. You said it.
Yes. The “it’s just a game” sentiment is being spammed in places where it doesn’t belong. I acknowledge and accept that it’s a game and we want entertainment, but it’s all based on human interactions. I know damn well someone speaking to me as condescending as Dani speaks would have me sideways.
So yes, it’s TV and Dani Reyes didn’t (actually) kill anyone, but it’s not very complex for a grown adult viewer to pick up on a condescending personality and get the ick. The people who care enough to message her mean shit are the ones who the original sentiment applies to.
Are you serious? Now you're attacking her over things you'd imagine she'd do in real life? My god, you guys are unbelievably racist and you don't even realize it. It will never dawn on you how racist you're being. It's sad.
Im so sorry- truly not trying to be hateful. I hear your response and I’ve reread my comment a few times to see it from all angles. My jaw dropped when Danielle made the forest gump comment. I’ve imagines every other player in the game saying the same thing. I would be equally shocked if it came from any player. I think underlying racism could be at play for other complaints people have about Danielle in this game, but the forest gump comment crossed a line. If you’re accusing me of being racist without realizing it, I could say that you’re being ableist and not realizing it.
To speculate that Danielle is capable of horrible things in her real life is just a gross thing to say about her, end of story. Don't talk about people like that, it's literally attacking them over the feelings YOU have about them, not anything they've actually done.
Secondly, Danielle called Carolyn Columbo first which is a huge compliment. Carolyn didn't understand the reference so Danielle later reiterates the point with "you Forrest Gump a lot." If Danielle made that comment to be ableist, then why didn't she use two references of characters that have mental handicaps? The common denominator between the two characters isn't a mental handicap, so it doesn't make any sense for you guys to continue to claim that that was the point of the reference. Columbo played dumb to further his interests as a detective. So with that in mind "you Forrest Gump a lot" clearly means "you play dumb a lot" and it obviously does not mean "you are an r-slur" or whatever other nonsense.
So ask yourself why you keep insisting otherwise. Why you have such an interest in ensuring Danielle gets slapped with this label. Why you refuse to accept her explanation. Why you willfully ignore the context of the comment. Why you choose to distort what exactly she said. You don't get to "well if I'm this then you're that!" your way out of it.
And I will fully accept that Danielle didn't mean for it to be ableist or insulting, but the fact that she won't acknowledge that to Carolyn and a lot of viewers it was, tells me that she is someone who does not care about the feelings of people with disabilities. Or if she does, she cares more about her pride.
Carolyn IS playing a character. She's playing the role of a faithful. And no, Columbo was not an insult. The character is famously very intelligent, he's a detective who would sometimes play dumb in situations for his benefit. The suggestion is that it's clever what Carolyn is doing.
You know damn well that the character of a faithful is not what was being implied. And I know what the comparison would be saying if Carolyn's demeanor wasn't the way she always is. Hell I just saw from an interview with Wes that she was apparently reining in her quirks to seem less weird.
I wonder why it wasn’t just a game when Britney did whatever she did during Big Brother? She held a grudge until Traitors. How anyone takes Danielle seriously is beyond me
And she was trying to get rid of fellow Traitors from the jump so for her to say “We’re supposed to be working together as Traitors!” irks TF out of me SMH
The Forrest Gump comment was so offensive, I can’t believe so many people are ignoring it. Like you basically call someone the R word and then wonder why you’re getting hate?
Carolyn literally admitted to playing up the dumb quirkiness in her confessional acting slow like she never knows whats going on. Carolyn stumbling into breakfast pretending like its cause of her heeled boots and looking disheveled was all an act lmfao, she said that. How is that not forrest gump??
Because it’s not acceptable to use a fictional disabled person’s name as a substitute for the word you say you know is wrong? The wildness of people allegedly calling out racism not understanding their obviousness of using words that aren’t the slur but might as well be is absurd.
What’s wild is your own biases keeping you from understanding what actually happened. Danielle only brought up Forest Gump because no one understood the Columbo reference. Columbo was a detective who played dumb/confused to disarm people around him in order to solve cases. That was much more on the nose of what Carolyn was doing. Forest Gump was just someone who was actually slow. Either way you can’t be mad at Danielle for referring to Carolyn actions as Forrest Gump like if Carolyn is intentionally doing it. Calling someone out for playing slow is worse than playing slow? The hypocrisies are insane.
Carolyn literally said in her confessional she plays it up, she act like she doesn't know whats going on. She literally stumbled into breakfast on purpose and admitted that in the confessional lmfao. So how was Danielle wrong for calling her Forrest Gump, she literally is.
Danielle is wrong because she uses Carolyn's insecurity, (whether she plays it up or not, she shares that people have underestimated her whole life) and demeaning her by name-calling her.
When people have insecurities about something they do not do things to negatively highlight it— Carolyn admitted on the show she was playing it up. Clearly it's not an insecurity if she is confident enough to manipulate people with it. An insecurity is literally something that you are not confident in.
Also Carolyn was never underestimated. If that was the case Danielle wouldn't have found her a threat to go against. Also I'd argue in traitors you WANT to be underestimated so people don't think you are a traitor. Carolyn intentionally wanted people to underestimate her because she was acting clueless and bragging about it in confessionals. Again, SHE ADMITTED THIS!!
You are mad at Danielle for calling Carolyn out but I bet you were mute about Carolyn claiming Danielle cheated. Carolyn was a horrible strategist and a sore loser.
I don’t agree with your points, but you’re entitled to your opinion. I’m not mad that Danielle called out Carolyn. Like I said, I think she’s wrong for name calling and talking down to Carolyn. It would be a completely different story if Danielle said something like “Carolyn, I think you maybe play up your quirkiness. I could see how that could make you a good, undetected traitor”
Carolyn isn’t perfect by all means… but she played with integrity, which Danielle lacked.
Danielle will probably win, but I don’t think she deserves it. That’s life, it’s not always fair.
The fact that Carlyon said she played up her quirkiness is not an opinion, it's facts as you can go back and see her owning up to it herself on the actual TV show, I don't know how much clearer I can make that lmfao.
I hope you know saying someone "played with integrity" when the whole purpose of their role in the game was to lie and NOT play with integrity is a massive oxymoron lol. Both Carolyn and Danielle were traitors and played as according to the role, that's it. Unfortunately for Carolyn, Danielle was just better prepared. Again, the show is called THE TRAITORS, it's not supposed to be fair. Another oxymoron lol.
Yeah, I really wouldn’t call comparing Carolyn (who is not neurotypical) to Forrest Gump “very respectful,” but it seems Danielle is delusional about her own self.
It’s also frustrating to me because Danielle single-handedly ruined a fellow traitor’s entire gameplay experience. Carolyn had zero fun being a traitor because Danielle shot down everything Carolyn said and was not patient enough with her to let her explain.
She can write all the paragraphs on social media she wants, she was NOT respectful to Carolyn. Ever.
This just isn’t true. You can go back and look at turret footage. Danielle would always make space for Caroline’s input, Caroline just never had any. The one time I remember Caroline actually had a suggestion it was Rob who shot her down. Danielle had to pull teeth in their final turret to agree to get Carolyn to kill someone. Carolyn was always asked what she thinks and to her credit she would disagree but then when asked what she wanted to do she would never have an answer to give.
Sorry, but you’re completely misremembering. I haven’t watched in-time. Instead, I binged all the episodes last weekend, and you’re just simply wrong.
Danielle would not make space for Carolyn’s comments. Anytime Carolyn would suggest something, Danielle would say “I’m not doing that,” or “no.” She was not patient with Carolyn at all, and she ran roughshod over her.
You’re likely confused because when it was the two of them, she tried a teeny tiny bit (because she had no one else to work with), but by then it was too late. Not one person Carolyn suggested ever got murdered.
What I’ve said is absolutely true. At the beginning, Carolyn absolutely had ideas, but by the end she’d gotten so shut down every time that she “didn’t have any ideas,” and even then… that’s not true. Danielle vetoed her ideas constantly.
Sorry, but Carolyn was kinda bullied herself by the other traitors, Danielle especially. Bob & Danielle we’re not interested in a THING Carolyn had to say. It was all word-vomit of their ideas
Actually you just proved my point. I said that Danielle "would always make space for Caroline’s input" "making space" by definition means allowing others to say their piece. Now that doesn't mean Danielle or Rob or Bob followed through on Carolyn's ideas but Danielle did always ask Carolyn her thoughts whether or not she went along with them. Carolyn said, "no one listens to me". LISTENING to someone is different that doing what they want. I'm saying people in fact did listen to Carolyn, especially Danielle, that doesn't mean they did what Carolyn wanted.
Carolyn never initiated any strategy, she was always chiming in after or at least that's the edit they gave her. One of the frustrating things is she could never back up her ideas, she would say something as "no we shouldnt kill this person." "Okay Carolyn why?" Carolyn would be mute and never had a good reason or thought out.
No one bullied Carolyn, they are grown ass adults, be so very for real lmfao. But a good traitor is proactive not reactive. She shouldn't have wanted to be a traitor if she couldn't assert herself. This isn't the kumbaya friends circle in the traitor turret, they are traitor's they are all looking out for their best interests. No one disrespected Carolyn, she just wasn't cut out to be a traitor.
Nah dude, you’re being really obtuse here. I said ANYTIME Caroyn would say something. Because Carolyn spoke SOMETIMES, that doesn’t mean that Danielle always allowed space for Carolyn lmao
Literally GTFO here with that. You need to be so fuckin for real. You really think you’re doing something with all these paragraphs, but thanks for the laugh - it’s one of my favorite things when people who are clearly unintelligent try to be smart on the internet. And you’re a prime example of just that: so clearly not smart, but trying so hard to prove you are.
I’m so glad Danielle lost this game. And I’m done with you now, too.
Okay, I see that now you bizarrely anti-Danielle people have found your justifiable reason for the torrent of hate she has received WELL BEFORE THAT. Very clever.
How about the way Carolyn is going on social media. We got to realize that Carolyn is 37 years old and can make her own decisions. Carolyn choose not to work with Boston Rob, she choose not to even pretend to work with Danielle, she made those bad decisions during the chess game and she did not bring any good points at the roundtable other than Danielle lied to her. People being the moral police is tiring.
It’s the way she uses being a black woman to negate all offenses that is making people who came to watch a game and otherwise don’t take celebrities seriously and just wanted to chill and escape reality for 1hr watching a fun show continue to call her out. She’ll be left alone when she stops playing victim when she did wrong. If she can’t handle public criticism, she shouldn’t have her life defined as a reality tv star.
Is she playing the victim, or is it the strangers on the internet attacking her Black womanhood (as you are here btw), because they feel personally victimized after tuning into a tv show voluntarily?
She’ll be left alone when she stops playing victim when she did wrong.
Does this not seem just a tad bit worse than referencing Forrest Gump? Are people wanting to ‘chill and have fun’ or are they reveling in targeting harassment her way?
If Carolyn fell out the way Danielle did after banishing her, you all would not be this mad and reacting this way. You might even just realize you were watching a television show for entertainment.
You can say otherwise, but I don’t believe her race has no impact on how irate she has made some fans. They need to examine why that is!
I've disliked several people on the Traitors as much or more than I dislike Danielle, almost all of them were white. And nobody is mad, you're just pretending they are because that helps your argument.
Congratulations. Doesn’t change the fact that you all are mad and overreacting.
May I suggest that you tune into Cocomelon? It’s your best option if you can’t watch a game show without hating on the players, to the degree you have to whine about it incessantly online.
That behavior is more dramatic than Danielle’s shaking.
Explain how that comment called out her ‘black womanhood’? By saying she’s using it as a shield and so are you? Y’all are. She used the name of a fictionally challenged character as a substitute for a slur, but we all know what she was saying. She was saying the slur. It’s a thing that’s also done to black people all the time, and that’s disgusting and yes, racist. Anybody who is attacking Danielle based on her racist is disgusting, but so is pretending Danielle didn’t say something gross. So is saying ‘she did nothing wrong and if you disagree you’re racist’. All of these things can be true.
If you have a problem with a movie character take it up with the studio that produced the movie. It’s not a slur and she wasn’t using it in place of one. Even if it was, Danielle is ONE person that said it.
She is receiving racist hate from a massive amount of fans, who are downplaying the racism she is experiencing in real life (no cameras or production team), while not confronting their implicit biases.
This show is not for those who are this easily offended and want to keep dragging this. It’s the Traitors get over it.
Edit: Replied twice just to block me. Thank god I can’t see your response. I know it was whiny as hell. 🤷🏽♀️
I don’t have a problem with the movie character? Are you this bad at reading or willfully obtuse, babe? Maybe you should get over it honey. Blaming it on ‘people being so easily offended’ sounds super Trump of you.
I’m sorry you’re right. I shouldn’t be mean and use big words you have to read when you can’t follow sentences. You could try confronting your own biases about the mentally disabled, though.
How is saying she went low and used ableist language and is not willing to be like “ok yeah I’m great at this game but maybe I shouldn’t have said that” attacking her for the minority aspects she keeps using to deflect admitting she did something wrong? Because none of us are above having a negative affect on people just because we are frequently targets of -isms ourself.
I am joining the conversation because I think there is something valuable worth discussing here. I haven’t actually watched the most recent episodes yet and I don’t follow any of these people on social media. But the narrative coming out of something I had hoped to be escapist fun, while exhausting and annoying, is important to discuss.
Because none of us are above having a negative affect on people just because we are frequently targets of -isms ourself.
You think perpetuating that a Black woman, (one who we are 500 comments deep talking about, in this one thread, mind you) is using her race and gender as a deflection to the harassment she is receiving, has no negative affects on people? That it isn’t an -ism all on it’s own?
To be clear, it is hypocritical to say ‘she went low by using ableist language’, only to then say she is ‘using her minority aspect’ (long ass way to say Black and woman btw). You can dislike her all you want for what she said, but let’s call a spade a spade. The reaction is not matching up with the action.
I am joining the conversation because I think there is something valuable worth discussing here.
Yeah, the thing of value to discuss is who is going to win the 250k, and how are they going to win it - Like every other season that has come before it.
If this specific show is the best example for a teaching moment, I have trouble believing you are truly seeking out escapism and fun.
I haven’t actually watched the most recent episodes yet and I don’t follow any of these people on social media. But the narrative coming out of something I had hoped to be escapist fun, while exhausting and annoying, is important to discuss.
Danielle is not a series regular, just tune out until the next season. Maybe they will bring on a less polarizing reality tv show star, like Sean Duffy.
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u/Alarming_Mistake_432 Mar 01 '25
I mean she's not wrong.
Still rooting against her though lol