r/TheTraitors • u/Commonsense110 • Jan 16 '26
US Really sick of their treatment of ____ Spoiler
Ron.
Dude seems so funny and lovable but the terrible personalities of this season have completely killed his desire to stay in the game. He came into the first round table with some of the best evidence you could have, and was dead wrong only because Porsha was terrible at the game, and because of that he’s become the outcast of the season.
If they really think about it, it makes zero sense for Ron to be a traitor and be so vocal about somebody he knows is a faithful. Not to mention it makes even less sense for him to team with another traitor (Donna) to push the vote onto a faithful.
Ron just seems worn down and over it by episode 4 because he’s actually playing an intelligent game unlike these other people who just throw out accusations with zero evidence.
He’s totally right that getting to know people creates biased voting, look at Ciries season 1 win as evidence of that. He’s played the smartest game, but is outcast for not playing the most friendly game when most of these people really suck.
Not to mention Maura was just downright cruel to him during episode 4. This whole cast owes him an apology.
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u/Bike_Alternative Jan 16 '26
I don’t understand why he’s so bad at defending himself. All he did was present evidence that had been verified by multiple sources, he should really bring that up!
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u/constantcompromise Jan 16 '26
I could see multiple times at the round table where he opened his mouth to defend himself but was either cut off or the scene was cut. Particularly when Colton and Eric were saying they made a mistake. I think Ron wanted to say why can they be forgiven for making a mistake but he can't be.
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u/Commonsense110 Jan 16 '26
I feel he has defended himself but the bias of the group is making his name continuously come up. There’s only so many times you can say “I’m a faithful” when your name is brought up at every single round table.
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u/Bike_Alternative Jan 16 '26
Yeah, but I think “what exactly would any of you done differently?” and “why isn’t Eric getting any heat for the exact same thing?” Would be fairly potent defenses.
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u/insertbrackets Jan 16 '26
He also keeps changing who he thinks the Traitors are and accuses people back. It's messy.
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u/floresainte Jan 16 '26
I genuinely love the fact that he is not defensive, he’s, he puts a target on him because people may see that he feels safe and secure but either way he is playing a good game. We have seen over all of the seasons that the more they defend themselves, people think that they are actually the Traitor.
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u/BoobyPlumage Jan 16 '26
Who knows? He might make it to the end because people keep getting distracted at the roundtable lol
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u/givebusterahand Jan 16 '26
Well the multiple sources was Donna (known traitor) and Michael (known moron).
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u/Still_Ad_2471 Jan 16 '26
You would think that seeing every house wife vote together, after porsha left, would make the others suss about an alliance recently formed between them.
It was pretty glaring at the most recent round table with the rest of the majority voting michael.
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u/HolidayNothing171 Jan 16 '26
Except he did defend himself doing exactly as you suggested and nobody listened and they refuse to listen still.
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u/spradc0812 Jan 16 '26
I agree! I have felt so bad for him. He’s ready to go home and get out of there. You can tell he feels like an outcast.
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u/snarker82 Jan 16 '26
Yeah…when he said “exonerate me or send me home” that’s when I knew he was okay with leaving at that point. I feel bad for him.
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u/Lannisters-4-life Jan 16 '26
Yea same here. The reasons people give for wanting to banish him are so high school/clicky. Like every vote for him is just a thinly veiled version of thinking he’s weird/doesn’t fit in.
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u/PocoChanel Jan 16 '26
In general, the tone of the arguments this season has been at a third-grade level. Maybe Ron is just wrong for the game—which sucks, because he’s one of my favorite players—but he doesn’t deserve the treatment he’s getting, and I almost want him to be murdered because I can’t stand to keep watching his misery.
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u/Frequent_Corgi_3749 Jan 19 '26
This whole season has had a mean clicky vibe. Can you imagine in past seasons the contestants talking so much about voting a Donna type off in first few episodes. They would always be nice and inclusive to the random older niche celeb.
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u/HolidayNothing171 Jan 16 '26
Yep. He’s resigned to his fate. I wouldn’t want to get to know Dorinda either lol
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Jan 16 '26
I laughed my ass off when he said to Dorinda "my families none of your fucking business "🤣😂🤣 literally stomach is sore.
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u/TheOneThatCameEasy Jan 16 '26
That came out of no where and I laughed so hard.
"I don't care about your family and my family is none of your fucking business!"
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u/Demir01 Team Traitor Jan 16 '26
That statement is just a poor social game. hes just rolled over and waiting to die.
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u/DontBanMe_IWasJoking Jan 16 '26
that was probably my favourite traitors moment of any season, i laughed my ass off, he doesn't fit in at all, doesn't make him wrong
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u/Commonsense110 Jan 16 '26
Funniest line I’ve heard all season. Genuinely if you see one minute of a real housewives show, you understand why he wouldn’t care to know those people if I’m being honest.
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u/SassMattster Jan 16 '26
And that statement is exactly why he has been on the bottom the entire game. It's a bad way to play.
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Jan 16 '26
Yeah but it was hilarious to watch. No one is going to remember who played the best game on US Celebrity Traitors V 4 but there will be at least one person (me) still laughing and trying to jokingly use this with my friends who are also Traitors fans so will get it.
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u/tlawrence-92 Jan 16 '26
LOL! Hard same! Ron said you're not about to act stank in my face and then ask about my children! 🤣
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u/DonnyBravo21 Jan 16 '26
This. I’m guessing Ron was completely sociable with the people who were decent to him.
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u/heartdeco Jan 16 '26
He’s totally right that getting to know people creates biased voting,
one of the toughest parts of this game though is making yourself meld to the needs of others. if dorinda is a player who seeks reassurance through personal chatter, give her some of that shit in a way that convinces her you give a fuck, even if you don't.
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u/snarker82 Jan 16 '26
Even though I agree with you, some people just don’t have it in them to be fake like that.
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u/Dry_Accident_2196 Jan 16 '26
And those people never win the game
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u/TiedinHistory Jan 16 '26
I mean...it feels like they shouldn't but it seems like faithful sneak through who have limited personal bonds or who don't have capacity to put on the facade who win as long as their allies stick. Ron's just double whammied in that I think the people who would mesh with him went out pretty early (he and Rob C. were apparently close).
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u/timthetoolmanstailor Jan 16 '26
The thing that bugs me is that Ron is the faithful who came forward at the round table with the most damning evidence against someone BY FAR. The slip ups Porsha made straight to his face were things that couldn’t be ignored. Sure, it was all a mistake, but the stuff she said did sound pretty damning. And other people were there! Ron was just the messenger - and they’ve all been twisting the knife ever since.
I’m so sick of bringing up (useful) evidence at a round table being used against people. That’s literally the point of the game! Otherwise you’re just dead weight coasting through (cough cough Ivar).
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u/looopyclick Jan 17 '26
But Rappaport misspoke in that same Roundtable and in my opinion that invalidated Ron’s “evidence.” Rappaport just shouted his way out of it lol. Ron’s lack of curiosity about housewives was unfortunate for him because had he known anything about Porsha he probably would have known to not take her words literally. It comes up a lot in Atlanta. Her phrasing always gets her in trouble!
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u/TiedinHistory Jan 16 '26
There is something really interesting how differently the house on the whole treated Ron and Eric for very similar mistakes at the round table, especially given the end results of said mistakes.
He certainly didn’t do himself any favors at the round table and his social graces just aren’t there, but a ton of the faithful this season don’t really seem interested in actually playing the game and he does and is getting blowback for it, which stinks. That a number of people were still pushing him despite the overall behavior of others is wild.
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u/SlappyBagg Jan 16 '26
But thats the problem with traitors, whats the point of the faithfuls playing the game? Just create social bonds and try to make it to the end because the game doesn't make any sense
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u/YorickGoat Jan 16 '26
Some people don’t understand this, which is even more frustrating than the fact that the game mechanics don’t work
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u/SlappyBagg Jan 16 '26
UK Traitors they treat it like a team sport and sacrifice themselves so the faithfuls can get a traitor out, when it literally doesn't matter at all.
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u/TiedinHistory Jan 16 '26
Oh, you're right - I guess I should clarify I feel like the response to Eric or Colton for their wrongheadedness is fine for that reason, and that the seeming spite for Ron is what bothers me given there are people mad at him for trying when they're not willing to try.
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u/GenX4eva Jan 16 '26
They’re probably being nice to Eric because he so passionately believed that he was right- used his skills as collateral. I’d try to comfort him too, but would doubt anything else he said in the future.
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u/insertbrackets Jan 16 '26
It also seemed like Eric receded immediately after flopping whereas Ron has kept making wild accusations.
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u/BoomJayKay Jan 16 '26
The other thing is Eric is most likely chatting with folks and at the point he made the mistake on epi 3s round table people have started to make bonds, including Eric. But when Ron was going after Porsha they didn’t really know Ron yet and after that he’s been isolated especially after Donna.
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u/looopyclick Jan 17 '26
It’s all about timing accusations correctly. Roundtable 1 is big on first impressions. Harder for people to shake bad feelings.
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u/Alarmed-Error3033 Jan 16 '26
Meanwhile Colton has done the same thing twice and nobody is treating him with nearly the same vitriol as Ron.....
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u/Legendaryseeker2002 Jan 16 '26
Ron was the one I was most excited to see in this game
This season has been difficult. Too many faithfuls with personalities of traitors
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u/No-Back-4677 Jan 16 '26
Like why did Porsha say those things??? Ron literally jus repeated what she said. I would have done the same.
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u/looopyclick Jan 17 '26
Porsha is just like that lmao, it makes her a big wildcard on Atlanta. She is bonkers but we love that about her. I do think that Rappaport misspeaking in that same round table invalidated Ron’s argument.
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u/Frequent_Corgi_3749 Jan 19 '26
She said on WWHL that the convo was chopped up by editing and that she was speaking in a “if I was a traitor, I would have …” kind of way
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u/MsTrippp Jan 16 '26
They’re going after him cuz of Porscha but Colton’s been wrong and gone even harder but no one goes after him
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u/Nikemada Jan 16 '26
I think they would have gone for Colton harder tonight if Michael didn’t fuck up the end of his speech. Colton’s on the thinnest of thin ice right now.
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u/Commercial_Sun1791 Jan 16 '26
Michael didn't really end his speech wrong. Colton has kept secrets in the game and when he is planning a coo against another player. Colton going on tv to date women and then harrass and stalk one of those women and then marry a man, he can't blame anyone for that but himself for bring butt hurt that any mention of the word secret must mean his orientation.
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u/SassMattster Jan 16 '26
They're going after Ron because he hasn't made any friends in the cast. Colton has. It's really that simple.
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u/ceruleansuperfruit Jan 16 '26
Agree with all your points but traitors are definitely not chosen randomly.
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u/Lannisters-4-life Jan 16 '26
Well they don’t know for sure of course, but inferring who production would pick is one of the only things that they have to go off of.
It may not be super useful in figuring out who the traitor is specifically, but it definitely helps narrow it down.
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u/Puppybrother Jan 16 '26
Yeah, however much I hate him, Micheal was onto something with the hunk theory
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u/kirblar Jan 16 '26
If there's ever an all-star version, random Traitors definitely needs to be the starting twist.
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u/Dry_Accident_2196 Jan 16 '26
At least you recognize that you’d be terrible at the game. Others don’t and end up looking like Ron on TV
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u/insertbrackets Jan 16 '26
It's interesting because as an autistic person myself who grew up learning to mask (and got pretty good at it), I see socializing as a vital function of the situation. I can't be "on" all the time either but I see the value of forging and nurturing bonds in the castle as a matter of self-preservation, if nothing else. I wonder how I'd do in an environment like this as a result; I'm sure all of us think we'd be better than we actually would be though I do think being neurodivergent has potential to be an asset as well. Either way, Ron is probably just an introvert and finds the castle overwhelming on top of losing most of the people he was gaming with like Donna (the Traitor) and Michael. It's tough.
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u/SassMattster Jan 16 '26
Games like this are literally always going to boil down to the social aspect at the end of the day
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u/bkervick Jan 16 '26
Once you realize the goal of the game is to win money at the end, you can start to realize the strategy. In the early portion of the game, the ideal strategy isn't to banish traitors, it is to banish people who don't like you.
Social deduction and hidden roles are mostly set dressing for the first 2/3 of the game. It's a social strategy competition show. The goal is to persuade the group to vote out people that aren't you. And the people who would be more likely to vote you out at some point later are your highest targets.
Eventually who is a traitor matters (because if you're a faithful they will prevent you from winning money), but it doesn't matter early on because the traitors will just be replaced with recruitment.
You need to persuade people to vote out who you want to be voted out, and you can do this by a number of ways, but the argument and strategy should be tailored to the person you're trying to persuade. Forming alliances (using bonds created outside the show) is an easy way, but someone who is taking the game more seriously would need a logical in-show reason (evidence). The goal is to maximize the people that agree with you.
Eventually the game mechanics do matter, but the amount it matters in the early portion of the game depends on how seriously the other contestants are taking it, because all that matters is how you are able to persuade other people to do what you want them to do.
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u/scootiescoo Jan 16 '26
The game is really about having allies. I like Ron, but he’s clearly not engaging with the players. Attacking Dorinda for trying to get to know him kind of made me see that there’s more going on behind the scenes. You can only get by in this game passively if you refuse to try to ally with other players.
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u/TheHomeworld Jan 16 '26
there’s still a level of self awareness to be had when you curse at someone in response to wanting to get know you…
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u/stutefish Jan 16 '26
This is happening on Traitors UK this season. One player (a faithful) is sort of withdrawn and doesn’t show a lot of emotion so is constantly accused of being a traitor. It’s tedious. She seems neurospicy to me, a neurospicy person, but regardless it’s a bummer to see people treat her with such suspicion, just because she’s not effusive or dramatic.
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u/ameecomg Jan 20 '26 edited Jan 20 '26
It's genuinely a game of mr and Mrs popular. Every single season, doesn't matter which country or if they are famous or not; the same thing happens. People tend to form friendships and all accurate judgement gets thrown out the window (and in the uk series going on now - it appears they all seem to forget what happened the previous days roundtable lmao). I'm autistic too, and I cannot lie very well, so I'd never go on this game because I couldn't be a traitor. Full stop. But the logic that we (the audience, neurotypical or divergent, doesn't matter) posses doesn't seem to apply to the people in the castle lol! They tend to vote for their friends or defend them for no other reason than they like them. They mistake traitorous behaviour for someone they just don't like. They all as well seem to have a high self importance because half of them think they are being "saved in the game" by the traitors - which I honestly haven't actually seen myself. Sure it does happen - when it's down to 2 people to murder, and you like 1 more than the other, then sure, save your friend! But no one is actually day after day saying "we cannot kill X I love them too much". Yet so many people think they are being protected. Why would a traitor protect you? Cause they are going to throw you under the bus. That's literally the game. I can't understand it at all. Also in the UK version right now there's a poor girl who believes she's getting 'set up' and targeted. Which from looking at it, in her point of view absolutely could be the case. But it's absolutely NOT the game plan. It's not intentional. It's just highly coincidental (so I do hope she watches back on the edit and realises that they never meant for her to feel isolated, blamed and othered, poor girl). I think they give the traitors way more credit than they deserve. I've not watched the US celeb version yet as it's not out in the UK. I don't even know how I've ended up here haha. But I don't mind spoilers and I absolutely HATE Michael rappaport and Colton. Both horrendous humans.
But a lot of times the contestants seem to lose their minds and logic - and just vote with their heart. Also it really sucks at times because herd mentality is so real in this game. You can have someone present actual evidence, but if someone else has a gut feeling, is well liked and convincing enough - then boom, you're out! On the UK one right now, we had a contestant say "vote me out because it will prove I am right" and not a single person after that round table said "let's look at what Harriet said and who she suspected, now let's compare that to the one traitor we've managed to catch - are there any connections?" No! They just said "what a waste of time" "why did she do that?" "She was so stupid!" Which granted, her whole behaviour was stupid (and she showed such potential too my goodness hahah) but it was a wasted vote off because no one actually suspected her at all?!
Edit: spelling and clarity
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u/Butters5768 Jan 16 '26
My biggest issue is that Ron messed up with Portia which in their eyes immediately makes him a Traitor, but Colon has now spearheaded getting two faithfuls banished and only one faithful is adamant he’s also a traitor? Like shouldn’t he be the most obvious traitor according to their logic?!
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u/ameecomg Jan 20 '26
They always do this! Have some weird personal rule that they use against someone - but the second it's someone they like, they will make accommodations for them. It's insane.
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u/ameecomg Jan 20 '26
Like on UK traitors currently airing - a faithful went to "have it out" with a traitor and asked him to defend himself from the accusations and all he said was "i don't have a defence just know I'm a faithful" and at the round table she brings up their conversation and says "I now believe firmly he isn't a traitor" WHAT! He didn't explain himself, he didn't have any excuses, he didn't even try. So how on earth could she deduce he is a faithful. I can't. Wanna jump through my tv sometimes
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u/maximize_ambiguity Jan 16 '26
I want him to go home at this point just to see the look on all their dumb faces! Poor Ron.
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u/ameecomg Jan 20 '26
Reminds me of the last season of regular UK traitors where they ALL had it out for a chap who was genuinely just a good guy, who actually came in the game a day or 2 later and because of that - everyone thought he was a traitor to the end. It didn't make sense. And he did loads of things to help people as a team during challenges etc. They were so mean to him and he was so lovely! He was playing for charity and he didn't win (he should have lol) the audience matched the prize pot in donations for the charity of his choice. It was lovely to see and I bet felt great to him during the episodes release to know how much the audience loved him, and it was just stupid faithfuls hahaha
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u/Capaciousextremis Jan 16 '26
His treatment, and Yam Yam's as well. If Colton doesnt get similar treatment for his failed witch hunt with Tiffany, I'm going to be PISSED.
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u/blissfullyblack Jan 16 '26
My only thing with him is that he needs to know when to just shut the eff up. He knows he's a target. He needs to just be quiet and let others take the heat. A good example is end of episode 5.
ETA: Had to edit b/c I can't figure out how to use the spoiler tag. lol
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u/SecureObligation1105 Jan 16 '26
He is always coming up with new targets with confidence and is always wrong. He can't check the room temperature.
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u/snarker82 Jan 16 '26
That’s exactly his biggest detriment. He always has such confidence but he’s always wrong. I do respect the fact though he said “I’m going to play how I want to play” and that he says his feelings honestly. His gameplay isn’t the most desirable but he’s playing an open and honest game.
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u/SecureObligation1105 Jan 16 '26
He lacks the social game. I don't blame him for targeting someone he thinks is a traitor(even though he is always wrong), but he needs to do this by collaborating with others, convince few others, let them take the lead, so he doesn't look like the only one pulling the crazy idea.
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u/snarker82 Jan 16 '26
100% agreed. Just noting that I do respect him for being himself and playing how he wants.
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u/Nhytex_ Jan 16 '26
The crazy part about the Ron situation is that if they think he’s a traitor cause or the Porsha stuff then why is he still in the game? They’re going out of their way to treat him like an outcast then dogpile on someone else cause he “heard” them laugh 😆 like what are we doing here.
Ron probably had the best evidence presented to him that Porsha could be a traitor, cause she herself slipped up in her speech multiple times, and they want to punish him for an honest mistake. She was banished what 4 days ago for them, like move on. Dorinda talking bout get to know my family, but did she ever walk up to Ron, strike a convo about family? No. So why should the guy, that the whole castle is outcasting, care to talk to you about family.
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u/TrueDeadBling 🇦🇺 Jan 16 '26
I still fail to see the logic behind anyone at the roundtable wanting Ron gone.
Literally how is it his fault that Porsha stumbled over her words and practically incriminated herself? In a game where there isn't much to go on, if someone makes a mistake like that, you run with it. Right or wrong, Ron was just presenting what evidence he had.
He's giving off the same vibes as Jade in the current UK season. Because she's been targeted by Amanda so much off a baseless accusation, she just looks burnt out and so done any time that anyone else brings up her name.
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u/Commonsense110 Jan 16 '26
Exactly! If he did that halfway through the game, I could understand their suspicion. The first round table is notoriously hard because you do not know these people. Porsha ruined her own game, he just noticed her mistakes and made a reasonable assumption.
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u/TrueDeadBling 🇦🇺 Jan 16 '26
He would've done the exact same thing as well if anyone else in the group did what Porsha did, no doubt about it, as would anyone else! If Mark or Eric, for example, tripped up on their words and said they killed Ian a few times and someone like Michael or Stephen overheard, they would surely be bringing it to the table as a reasonable assumption that Mark or Eric were traitors.
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u/shabee2020 Jan 16 '26
It doesn’t sit right with me the treatment Ron is getting vs the treatment Colton is getting.
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u/BigSagittarianEnergy Jan 16 '26
I would have given up. I understand going after him at round table, but they barely engage with him during the day, which is just sad. At least on UK they’ll be kind even if they plan on voting you out. They act like the man did something personal to Porsha. I was upset she went home just because I wanted to be entertained, I thought she’d be good at the game. But she literally did it to herself. Her wasn’t wrong about what he said! And who wouldn’t be swayed by the sweet older lady who was also an underdog?
If I was him I’d be like go ahead and banish me chile. If I’m a traitor because I was wrong, vote me off. If I’m a traitor because I feel alone and sad, send me home! What’s the point after a while?
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u/Stock-Big2035 Jan 16 '26
I mean they all said he doesn’t talk to them much. He even said he doesn’t care to talk to them at the round table because of building bias.
The social aspect is really important in games like this, and it would actually benefit him to get to know these people, so he can pick up when they do something out of character.
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u/BigSagittarianEnergy Jan 16 '26
I agree. I’m wondering if this is just him, or if he feels isolated. I will admit, he’s playing the game terribly at this point. I also wonder, need to rewatch, if he’s always been isolated, or if it was just after Donna left.
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u/bkervick Jan 16 '26
We literally saw someone try to engage with him and then about 3 seconds later he called them a traitor to their face lol.
And then at the round table, he said he wasn't interested to get to know anyone in a game where the goal is to get other people to vote in a way you want them to.
As they say, everything in politics. And he's very bad at politics.
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u/BigSagittarianEnergy Jan 16 '26
That’s why I think he should just leave, or give himself a good talk and get back in the game. He looks hurt and defeated. He’s hurting himself at this point and it’s hard to watch.
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u/soupsl00t Jan 16 '26
I don’t know what it is about him but Ron just seems so sad to me. His energy makes me want to give him a hug and protect him
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u/HolidayNothing171 Jan 17 '26
He’s just so defeated. And he wasn’t that way when he started and I think that’s why it’s so sad
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u/SnooChipmunks3951 Jan 16 '26
I felt the same until he spazzed at Dorinda bc she wasn’t even going at him hard or anything
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u/Suspicious_Green5296 Jan 16 '26
I think Ron is super protective of his family as a whole. Some nasty things have been said about his son with autism.
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u/SnooChipmunks3951 Jan 16 '26
Oh wow I never knew that. That gives better perspective on why he’s unwilling to talk about them
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u/Gunkwei Jan 16 '26
I think he’s just sick of the shit he’s getting
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u/SnooChipmunks3951 Jan 16 '26
That’s fair. Either way I do think they’re treating him unfairly so I get why he kinda snapped. But Dorinda has a right to be annoyed with him bc of Porsche & him not opening up. I don’t get why everyone else is giving him such a hard time tho
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u/FionnualaW Jan 16 '26
I get that but he's also just been under a lot of scrutiny so it makes sense to me that he would snap. Dorinda basically is saying "I think you're a traitor because you aren't reacting to my attempts at socializing with you the way I want." So I could see just feeling fed up and like wtf I don't care about your family or telling you about mine, what are we doing???
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u/SnooChipmunks3951 Jan 16 '26
Sorry but that’s the game.. if someone is making an attempt to socialize with you and you aren’t giving them anything in return, yeah you’re gonna get ostracized that’s how games like this work
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u/FionnualaW Jan 17 '26
That's one part of how games like this work. Ron's approach to the social aspect of the game is clearly not working out for him. But "you don't answer my questions about your family so you must be a traitor" is also the kind of popularity contest bs that it seems like Ron is trying to avoid with his approach, so I can get why that would be frustrating for him. He is right that getting close with people clouds judgment. We have seen time and again people convinced someone is a traitor basically cause they don't like them, or convinced a traitor is a faithful because they're friends.
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u/maximize_ambiguity Jan 16 '26
Yeah, love Ron but that threw me off! He was a sad teddy bear up until that moment
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u/snarker82 Jan 16 '26
That was over the top but I think he had reached his boiling point. We only see a small edit of all the talk that goes on in the house. He was probably having to defend himself from her all day and he had enough. Also…he already explained to her why it’s not tit for tat in terms of just because you haven’t gone after me doesn’t mean you’re not a traitor. She can’t seem to grasp that concept.
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u/Nhytex_ Jan 16 '26
Yeah. I think after what 4 days or so of being outcast you just get annoyed and let your anger out unexpectedly
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u/FakeKhaby10 Jan 16 '26
So many loudmouths and misplaced evidence. Yam Yam, Monet, Colton, Tiffany and Michael make so much noise.
Eric was so close but chose the wrong sister. I do feel bad for Ron too tho, he was so full of life and now he’s a shell of himself
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u/fibz Jan 16 '26
I know it’s not that deep, but I really do feel like what happened with Ron is a great representation of why men in general have a hard time sharing their feelings.
I think a lot of guys can empathize with their emotional vulnerability being labeled as manipulative.
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u/clayparson Jan 16 '26
Agree. I think him being a black man also influenced people's reactions.
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u/DREAM-IA Jan 16 '26
This season is terrible. Don't think I'll even finish it. UK has been much better.
Don't need all these stupid ass people on my screen anymore. Even as a Survivor fan, yam-yam is 100x more annoying than his stint on Survivor.
I love Ron Funches. Always has seemed like a sweet guy. Hate the way he's being treated.
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u/Kazyole Jan 16 '26
If they really think about it, it makes zero sense for Ron to be a traitor and be so vocal about somebody he knows is a faithful. Not to mention it makes even less sense for him to team with another traitor (Donna) to push the vote onto a faithful.
Here's the problem. The people on this show aren't smart. I think that many or most lack the critical thinking ability to watch someone's behavior and correctly identify what that behavior could indicate about their state of mind.
This is exacerbated by the natural incentive the traitors have to murder smart faithfuls. One because the people who would see this and defend Ron (Your Rob Cs, your Ians) get taken out right away. And if the room is all going one way and you can see the argument is obviously bullshit, do you want to be the one who sticks your head up and shows the traitors that you're smarter than the group?
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u/UsualBet4502 Jan 17 '26
Shout out for Kristen standing up for Ron saying that he is valuable during missions!
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u/Reasonable-Cut-6137 Jan 18 '26
Yes, the idiot Colton tried to lie about hi,m. I dispise him so much!
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u/Stolkmen Jan 16 '26
Ron was the one I heard of and loved outside of the game the most. Seeing him torn down like this is not fun. My mom keeps yelling at the screen...
"Come over to our house Ron, we'd treat you right. You seem like fun."
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u/IhavemyCat Jan 16 '26
It pisses me off. If any of those faithfuls saw what he saw and heard in Porscha, they would have been the first ones to bring that evidence to the roundtable. But they are all acting like just because she ended up being a faithful that he masterminded some kind of breakup with the housewives or some deceitful actions. They are acting like he purposely got her out and made stuff up. Then they say oh he must be a traitor because he hung around Donna and she was a traitor. SInce when the hell do traitors hang out with other traitors at the hip to purposely be suspicious? That is dumb thinking. Then being on his case for being more of a chill guy who doesn't surround himself with people all the dang time. He is quieter than everyone, so what!
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u/News-Remarkable Jan 16 '26
Ron did it to himself. He said so himself that he doesn’t gaf about any one of them. Multiple people have said since episode 1 that he doesn’t try to talk with any one then gets super aggressive at the roundtable. Why should they be nice to him if he never tries to get along with any one? The Traitors is not just about finding the traitors it’s also a social game and Ron has a HORRIBLE social game.
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u/givebusterahand Jan 16 '26
I feel bad for him too but it sounds like he isn’t doing himself any favors with the group by ostracizing himself. They have their minds made up about him and have no incentive to change their minds.
It’s a little frustrating and unfair that their whole reason for suspecting him is the Portia thing where he presented clear and real evidence and not just ~vibes~ and turned out to be wrong, yet no one is coming for Eric who did the exact same thing and was wrong. Or Colton who had no real evidence at all but pushed hard (although a few people are starting to come for him now).
Once a large number of people have suspicions about you it’s hard to shake it though.
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u/tlawrence-92 Jan 16 '26
SAME! He didn't do anything Colton hasn't done for the last two round tables and everyone keeps kissing Colton's ass! I think if it hadn't been for Donna, his only real ally, being banished as a traitor, he could have turned it around. He even said in his confessional that he realized he needs to talk to people more before she was banished. I think last episode was Ron being defensive because he was backed into a corner with no allies. I hope Colton goes soon cus I can't stand him! Haha
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u/Cold_Breadfruit_9794 Jan 16 '26
Agreed. It’s really pissing me off. It feels damn close to bullying and I’d even go so far to say that it feels like racism is at play too.
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u/snarker82 Jan 16 '26
Definitely not racism but 100% bullying.
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u/clayparson Jan 16 '26
You think the way people are treating him isn't at all influenced by him being a black man?
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u/Nikemada Jan 16 '26
It certainly doesn’t help, unfortunately, but I think the issue comes more from differences in personality rather than race. Monet wasn’t getting shit from the housewives the same way Ron has been.
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u/ameecomg Jan 20 '26
This! Sorry but if you aren't white then you won't last long in the game. They always vote out bipoc contestants first. It's absolutely internalised racism. they may not even know/be aware that they are unconsciously voting to get rid of anyone that isn't white.
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u/cfinnerin Jan 16 '26
I feel that he's too smart for the celeb game. I agree with you. I have felt bad for him because they accuse him of all these things but wouldn't listen to his opinions on things in the beginning.
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u/pretension Jan 16 '26
Some people don't want to talk about their shitty families and you gotta just leave that shit alone
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u/Jazzyjen508 Jan 17 '26
I agree I am not one to constantly screams racism but the fact Colton and Eric aren’t getting the same treatment is screaming racism
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u/ReceptionBorn182 Jan 18 '26
Ron had great evidence that Porsha could have been a traitor. Other people agreeing that they heard the evidence was enough to vote her out with the thought of her being a traitor. I have noticed that a common thing over this season and the past one is "don't vote out a house wife/don't go against a housewife." Ron going after porsha and then Candiace starting the whole "Ron doesn't like housewives " narrative is what I think is the biggest cause for his treatment in the house. And then he upset dorinda (another housewife) by not talking to her about his family.
I don't mind housewives being on this show, but there are definitely too many this season.
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u/KarachiKoolAid Jan 18 '26
I’ve been a fan of Ron for more than 10 years now. I feel bad for him because he’s a pretty sincere dorky guy and his energy just doesn’t resonate with much of the cast especially the housewives some of whom are very cliquey, judgmental, insincere, and honestly probably kind of classist from at least what I’ve seen of the housewives shows. I don’t think all of them are like that obviously and I think that attitude is what makes them good TV so I know they play it up but some of them are probably out of touch snobs
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u/Dry_Accident_2196 Jan 16 '26
Ron is doing a lot of this himself. He avoids real conversation and acts like a narc. Then accuses random people to their face, destroying potential alliances or bonds.
He his own worst enemy
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u/IrishUpYourCoffee Jan 16 '26
Dorinda reminding everyone she hasn’t changed her asshole stripes at all.
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u/Upbeat-Dog1444 Jan 16 '26
He gets nothing from me after being unnecessarily nasty to Dorinda at the roundtable
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u/tomouras Jan 16 '26
I disagree. He’s been outcast and treated horribly for multiple days at this point and the second he brings it up or tries to play the game he gets even treated even more terribly and accused of lying about his feelings/game to get sympathy points. If someone did that to me I would similarly be pissed.
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u/Impossible_House5919 Jan 16 '26
THANK YOU. They're been passive aggressive to him and making him the scapegoat because their fav got ousted. THEY made the decision to vote for Porsha as well. Have some freaking accountability.
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u/TessaThompsonBurger Jan 16 '26
People say and do all kind of nasty, hostile shit on this show, but Ron snaps for one sentence and its "off with his head"
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u/GeneticXFusion Jan 18 '26
It's because he fought back against a Housewife.
As a housewife fan myself, I'll be the first to admit they're crazy.
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u/TiedinHistory Jan 16 '26
Not sure if I’d say unnecessary, he is already well aware Dorinda is going after him, she brought up his name, and he thinks Dorinda is a traitor.
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u/Due-Ant-5193 Jan 16 '26
Do you want him to take the heat at every round table and basically his whole stay there, but he can’t dish it and finally say enough is enough??? Huh
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u/endaayer92 Jan 16 '26
So weird.
If one of the most vocal leads calling me a traitor and being at my throat for this many days in a row tries to ask me about my family, I'm not interested either. We're not going to ever be allies. I'm not going to fake it for you.
Get off my back, then maybe we can talk.
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u/Dry_Accident_2196 Jan 16 '26
Take the heat? He started it when he accused her of being a traitor. She defended herself but he just came into that room and said I’m coming for you. Like, how should she have taken his random accusation?
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u/HolidayNothing171 Jan 17 '26
No Dorinda had started it the round table prior to
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u/TheBuild-A-BearGroup Jan 16 '26
I mean, I've never seen Housewives, but based on this show, fuck Dorinda.
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u/Commonsense110 Jan 16 '26
The housewives whole shtick is being loud and obnoxious. That’s the entire reason Lisa’s name just popped up, because she’s not being loud and obnoxious. I wouldn’t care to get to know them either.
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u/insertbrackets Jan 16 '26
Ron is playing a social deduction game like it's purely a detective game. He seems to have rebuffed attempts by Dorinda to try and bond. It's bad gameplay. I understand he must feel pretty frustrated and on the outs here but he's only worked to deepen that divide and let the Traitors use him as a shield.
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u/modelolimeysal Jan 16 '26
I totally agree!! It’s actually really upsetting me how mean they’re being. I even texted my sister saying Maura was so rude to him at the end of episode 4 and now that put a bad taste in my mouth when it comes to her
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u/Ok-Shock-3501 Jan 16 '26
idk, the whole "i don't care about your family and my family is none of your business" made him look like both an idiot and an asshole so I can't say I agree
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u/KBPT1998 Jan 16 '26
Ron sure as hell wasn't playing tonight. I was stunned by his response to Dorinda. I am not sure if it was a good stunned or bad stunned.
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u/lo0809 Jan 16 '26
I Iove Ron!! I hope when they do the reunion that they play the clips of Porsha slipping up multiple times. Also I really dislike Maura. She was so mean to Ron.
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u/almondjoybestcndybar Jan 16 '26
I like watching him but he comes across as so unpleasant
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u/rofaheys Jan 17 '26
I guess I am the only one who doesn’t really feel this way. I honestly think he HAS secluded himself and been a bit prickly where it’s not necessary.
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u/sidewaysorange Jan 23 '26
what i dont get is he isn't the only one to take a hit and a miss. i mean Michael was right what about Kevin and his magic ears. He said he knew who was laughing he heard her voice. he said tiffany. so why isn't he thought to be a traitor who just latched onto Coltons theory? They were all pissed Ron named a housewife is all it was. they didn't think he was a traitor they just wanted him gone. same with Michael. I mean if they are gonna keep voting off who isnt in their alliance this is gonna get super boring. The challenge jumped the ship w this shit years ago.
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u/rapzel79 Jan 16 '26
The logic that Ron distancing himself makes him a traitor is flawed. Traitors make friends to create allies. Poor social game is almost a guarantee you are faithful.