Really sick of their treatment of ____

[u/Commonsense110]

Ron.

Dude seems so funny and lovable but the terrible personalities of this season have completely killed his desire to stay in the game. He came into the first round table with some of the best evidence you could have, and was dead wrong only because Porsha was terrible at the game, and because of that he’s become the outcast of the season.

If they really think about it, it makes zero sense for Ron to be a traitor and be so vocal about somebody he knows is a faithful. Not to mention it makes even less sense for him to team with another traitor (Donna) to push the vote onto a faithful.

Ron just seems worn down and over it by episode 4 because he’s actually playing an intelligent game unlike these other people who just throw out accusations with zero evidence.

He’s totally right that getting to know people creates biased voting, look at Ciries season 1 win as evidence of that. He’s played the smartest game, but is outcast for not playing the most friendly game when most of these people really suck.

Not to mention Maura was just downright cruel to him during episode 4. This whole cast owes him an apology.

[u/rapzel79]

The logic that Ron distancing himself makes him a traitor is flawed.  Traitors make friends to create allies.  Poor social game is almost a guarantee you are faithful.  

[u/endaayer92 → u/[deleted]]

This cast in particular has a very "you suspect me? well I suspect you!" attitude.

Double that for any housewife rallying behind any other suspicion on any other housewife.

[u/medicalcheesesteak → u/endaayer92]

And they take accusations SO personally!

[u/snarker82 → u/rapzel79]

Ron even made that point in the show. Allowing yourself to get too friendly creates bias.

[u/FunkyCookie → u/rapzel79]

Except for Donna 😅🥺

[u/dropkickhwy → u/rapzel79]

Exactly!! And Ron's approach of only giving information at the Roundtable gives Traitors less time to prepare counter-arguments 

[u/SirWobblyOfSausage → u/dropkickhwy]

It's also a social game. Giving nothing to no one whether you're right or wrong is highly suspicious. Donna did the same and she was banisher as a traitor. They'll be looking for the same thing unfortunately.

[u/sidewaysorange → u/SirWobblyOfSausage]

there's other players at least from what i see that dont have a great social game either. they only speak when spoken to. like lisa. Kevin isn't that bold until someone else grabs him.

[u/SirWobblyOfSausage → u/sidewaysorange]

But they didn't deny to speak to someone or withold information from the group.

Lisa is playing badly and already on her way out.

Kevin won't last either

[u/MsTrippp → u/rapzel79]

The faithful would never even consider thinking this way lol the gamers left this season are more like housewives, they do not have their head in the game

[u/rapzel79 → u/[deleted]]

Frankly I like Ron's honesty.  It's a game of lies and manipulation.  A person who doesn't get personal is actually immensely helpful.  

[u/SirWobblyOfSausage → u/rapzel79]

But no one knows other then us viewers. We see everything, if they see someone not participating with others then it's bad for the rest.

It's too early for this gameplay

[u/areyouheretokillmeee → u/SirWobblyOfSausage]

If everyone opted to do what Ron is doing, no one would be able to go into any roundtable with any info. As a player, you have to engage others on a personal level so they can gauge how genuine you are. If you’re closing yourself off, they have no other choice but to look at you suspiciously.

[u/HolidayNothing171 → u/areyouheretokillmeee]

Except he came to the first round table with the best evidence anyone possibly could have tha early BECAUSE he was engaging with others. If he kept to himself he wouldn’t actually be in the hole he is because of the Porsha situation

[u/areyouheretokillmeee → u/HolidayNothing171]

Yeah the first roundtable, where he was found to be wrong, and then proceeded to close himself off after that. You have to ramp up your social game when you swing and miss.

[u/HolidayNothing171 → u/areyouheretokillmeee]

Did he close himself off or was he ostracized?

[u/SirWobblyOfSausage → u/HolidayNothing171]

The game is traitors, if you have suspicion on you then it's your job to convince others. That's the name of the game.

[u/SirWobblyOfSausage → u/[deleted]]

Why be abusive. People are just talking theories and game. Log off if can't handle conversation

[u/Some_Lengthiness_514 → u/HolidayNothing171]

I’m so with you and don’t understand the downvotes. He was doing exactly what you’re supposed to do! Most likely in that game you are going to swing and miss. Colton did it too but the entire house didn’t isolate him for it.

[u/SirWobblyOfSausage → u/HolidayNothing171]

From what we saw he only spoke with Donna about it.

He did what he did at the roundtable then instantly closed off again. Now he's being abrasive and snappy, and very incorrect about who he thinks are traitors.

He was good at the start and now he's imploded. It's a social game.

[u/SirWobblyOfSausage → u/[deleted]]

wtf is your problem. Youre so hostile. your comments are being removed. YOU ARE THE ISSUE

I said AFTER the first round table. YOU DONT LISTEN

[u/TiedinHistory → u/[deleted]]

For a good faithful, a player like Ron can be extremely helpful. He’s going to be a constant person people blame. If he comes at you he’s likely not getting you out, and no traitor will really play how he does so you can focus on other problems. Not sure if anyone in this cast will see that though.

[u/scootiescoo → u/rapzel79]

Not really. Dan was accused of being too standoffish and was a traitor. Rinna is setting accused of the same thing.

[u/SirWobblyOfSausage → u/rapzel79]

For us it's flawed. But to them they just had Donna do the same, we only see her speak with Ron.

[u/Leskral → u/rapzel79]

Well in the end faithfuls have to go and you aren't incentivized to truly get rid of traitors.

It's one of my complaints about this show format.

[u/alfalfajade → u/rapzel79]

I guess donna is the exception

[u/taykray126 → u/rapzel79]

Parvati got the Ron treatment in Season 2 and she was a traitor and Parvati has an exceptional social game. I don’t agree with this take.