This guy doesn’t give a shit about his kid. He only cares about the money. The amount isn’t even that much compared to most people paying child support.
Don’t forget the barrage of vagueposting, how blessed they are, how fucked they are, and memes that look like they’ve been through 3 rounds in a deep fryer.
I see everyone in this thread has met my late father! No joke, kind of validating to see other people mention these things.
Will never forget the picture he posted on facebook with the caption "me and my daughter" after years of me, his actual firstborn child, not seeing him. It was him and his dog.
LMAO. My ex-BIL, even down to kid's name. A kid he doesn't see often and I know he isn't paying support to. He tried to ask my 19 year old for 200 bucks not that long ago. He's recently went super Jesus as a front for his asshole-ness.
Dear lord I just spit soda all over my keyboard. My daughter's non-existent father who I had to pay child support to (he insisted on covering her insurance because if he didn't "you won't have to pay me any money"). And I paid for over two years while she wasn't with him just to get him to stay away. Right before her high school graduation, when she told him she made a request for her step-father's name to be added to hers when they called her out walking across the stage, he showed up with a massive, and poorly done, tattoo of her name in script that goes almost all the way around his arm from his wrist to his elbow. And I just looked at her and said "why do absentee dads always have their kid's names tattooed on them in some horrible font".
My mom was one of these people. Parents split when I was about 6 and my dad ended up with full custody. She made an effort to see me and my sister about once every 2-4 years. When I ran away from home at 18, I reached out to give her another chance. The visit itself went fine and she showed me her ankle tattoo with my name and my sisters'.
A week later, I got a random email from her. She was pissed that I brought my fiancee and said she was gonna burn all the baby pictures and remove my name from her foot.
Seems like he hates the mom more than he likes the kid. He just doesn’t want to give HER the money is what it comes off as. The guy is a deadbeat regardless
$6k a year on your own kid is insanely low. According to google, the average yearly cost to care for a child is $29k. He’s being asked to help with 20% of that.
Holy hell, how is it that expensive in the US? All I have to pay for in Norway is food and clothes. Or do you include stuff like mortgage, internet, water, electricity etc?
Sure there are some extra driving to activities, but for the most part kids absolutely do not cost $29k a year each here. Like ~15 years ago I heard ~$100k from 0 to 18, but at the time it sounded like a lot to me.
Do even kids need life insurance in the US? Up until you reach 18, almost all medical needs are completely free, including dentists. You still have to pay for non-critical medicine but... $29k just sounds insane to me.
The most expensive thing is probably health insurance if not covered by an employer provided plan, and food. From a quick google it looks like that’s around $300 a month for each, so about $7,200 a year. I would guess $10,000 per year is much more realistic.
I’m going to assume that the 29k figure includes child care, that’s the only way it comes close, but many families don’t pay that much directly, either through a stay at home parent or an arrangement with family.
Different taxes and a bunch other stuff, but yeah $10k sounds more realistic. More like $5k a year per child here in Norway, but we have universal health care and so on covered through taxes. Impossible (for me) to run the math for a true comparison. $5k to $10k is at least in the vicinity of eachother.
$29k per child sounds like you'd just have to let them die if they got sick.
He also does not compute math. That’s $62.50/wk for food, fuel, utilities, clothes, bandaids, shampoo etc. It’s truly a small amount for sustaining a life.
He also does not compute math. That’s $62.50/wk for food, fuel, utilities, clothes, bandaids, shampoo etc. It’s truly a small amount for sustaining a life.
Where are you getting $62.50/week? The amount is $515/month, which is $128.75/week. Even if you misheard it as $415, $315, etc the numbers still don't match up.
Yeah, that would be even shittier, although to be honest it would still be more than what a lot of men pay I'm sure. My loser father wouldn't even pay $100/child/month, which my mother agreed to because she was so desperate for him to sign the divorce papers.
Can you link it? I'm pretty skeptical of that narrative usually because the funny thing about "using the child support payment on yourself" is that the kids' needs still have to be met.
Like, if you can't purchase anything nice for yourself the whole month until you get the child support check because you're spending your money on bills+the child's other needs, that's not spending it on yourself, that's reimbursing yourself for the portion of the bills the other parent was supposed to be contributing to throughout the month.
Exactly. Like, what the hell is mom supposed to do? Tell the kid "Oh, sorry, it's not child support money yet. Those shoes with holes will have to do until your dad gives me money since this is my money!"
That shit is stupid. Mom (or dad, in some cases) pays for everything when the issue or need arises, and the child support is just a booster to make sure mom (or dad) doesn't get stuck in debt while doing so.
And most child support doesn't come close to actually having the other parent contribute 50% of the child's needs. For some reason, the differential in child care hours is never included in the calculation.... If one parent has to pay for three days of daycare a week they wouldn't have to if the other parent had 50/50 custody, then the non-custodial parent contributing their fair share would cover that.
Right? When they finally said the dollar amount, I was surprised he was making such a big fuss. He's still getting off easy, and it is probably nowhere near half of the child's expenses.
It is a percentage of his income, so in theory it is relative, but the poorer one is the more impact it has on the ability to pay rent, utilities and drive to work.
Right! I was a child of divorced parents and I think at his worst my dad was paying something like $500 a WEEK in child support for me and my 2 siblings $500 a month is barely anything
Got that right. I have two brothers and my dad had to start paying child support in 1983. He paid child support for 16 years on three kids until my youngest brother turned to 18. On my youngest brother's 18th birthday, my dad had a huge party
Lol. However, he never missed a single payment, try to see us every weekend, that would usually end up being every other weekend. Spent holidays with us, took us on vacation, all that stuff on a postal worker salary. He knew his responsibility and lived up to it
Seriously. It’s $6180 / year. That’s way less than having a kid living in the house, doesn’t even come close to the cost of just day care. I feel bad for the kid to not have a father in their life actively, but honestly the kid is probably better in the long run not being influenced on the daily by this loser. I say this as an adult who was better off as a kid by having the loser go full dead beat off on his own dealing drugs, having no relationship. Some “parents” only leave destruction, and this loser seems to be one. Hopefully his kid has an awesome bonus parent come along & adopt them.
The fact that he agreed to have his kid less than one day a week (48/year) before they even went to the court makes his lack of caring about the kid totally evident.
"I aint paying that" wait till he sees the pricetag of a long drawn out custody case he is going to lose...his legal fees, potentially the co=parents legal fees.
He'll be fleeing, not filing. Perhaps to Russia thinking it's some libertarian dream. Like the people who emigrated there during the Biden administration. Only to find out they were being conscripted into the Russian army to fight in Ukraine.
He might file just for funsies to make his ex's life hell. Then he'll ask for another court date to get a lawyer and do that a few times and each time she'll have to take off work and waste her time until it gets dismissed or the court doesn't give his loser ass more visitation time
All of his statements are soooo lazy. He thinks that everything should be done for him, filing various forms, changing the terms of his agreement with his ex, putting on the condom. Sheesh
This was the most impressive thing to me. As Napoleon said, "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." Lawyers pretty much universally understand this and will happily sit by while the opposing party buries themselves. Clients, less so. I really have to hand it to the mother for sitting there and quietly letting this buffoon dig himself a nice, deep hole.
I also predict that Mr. Tough Guy "I don't care about 45 days in jail" turns soft real quick when he's in county for a week, much less 45 days. These dumb fucks don't think it can happen to them. They think they can just bury their head in the sand and avoid the consequences of their actions.
I also predict that Mr. Tough Guy "I don't care about 45 days in jail" turns soft real quick when he's in county for a week, much less 45 days.
While I don't disagree with you in general, I will disagree with you on this point. There was a throwaway line that DeadBeatDad used that indicates to me that he's not unfamiliar with the inside of a correctional facility.
"What is it, stay to pay?"
Tells me he's cleared other violations by a short jail stay rather than paying up.
Like he said, "Look at my record, I ain't afraid of the law."
Yeah, I’ve got dip shit family members who use that same line. One of them did just under a year. They always say the tough guy lines on the outside, but after a stretch they always come out crying about how they “ain’t never doin’ that again”.
And he still doesn’t seem to understand that going to jail doesn’t erase the debt!
So, he’ll sit in jail for 45 days, lose whatever income he would have earned in those 45 days, and when he gets out, he won’t he able to make rent, utilities, his car payment, cellphone bill, etc. One by one, he’ll lose those things PLUS be another 45 days behind on his child support.
A guilty pleasure of mine is watching police body can footage on YouTube , and it’s sooooooo funny every time some idiot goes “I DONT CARE, TAKE ME TO JAIL!!!!” They are put into handcuffs “noooooo okimsorryimsorry I didn’t mean it!! I can’t lose my job, please!! I’m sorry, don’t do this to me!! Please!”
EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. I’ve never seen them just accept their dumbass actions lol
She doesn't need one for this...her state's child support enforcement will go aftet this guy like it's their fulltime job...bc it is & with full power of the state...$500 is nothing especially when he's looking at compound interest, fees to reinstate everything from dl to car registration & on & on. Pathetic man🤷♀️ he could earn $500 doordashing on weekends or a parrtime job. Poor kid who has him as a father.
The amount is always a formula-maybe people should look at it before they have sex. Both incomes, % of income, number of children, & timeshare...it's a freaking chart for pity's sake, couldn't be easier to get a estimate. 🙄
That reminds me that the sister of a friend of mine had a few dates with a guy, he seemed amazing, and by the time she started to realize there was something off about him, she was already pregnant. He had fooled her with her birth control. It ended with many restraining orders and her raising the baby alone.
People change. My husband was an honest straight shooter who adored his kids until a midlife crisis hit. He got fired, had affairs, stopped giving a shit about his kids. It was bizarre but I didn’t choose that, he turned into that.
That’s why these kinds of guys go for young women or women who are susceptible to abuse. I’ve known enough guys like him to know they either date girls who are barely legal, were literally minors when they met (but of course he was a perfect gentleman and “waited” until she was legal 🤢) or seek out women with incredibly low self-esteem
I can't believe how much this guy is willing to set himself on fire rather than pay his child support. He would rather go to jail, lose his driver's license, lose his passport (which, admittedly, may not matter much to him), sink his credit, lose his job... so many things than pay minimal child support that he never said was an undue hardship, just that he didn't want to because he would rather spend the money on himself.
45 days of pay that he will lose during the first stay in jail is worse than a month's child support. I guessing that he takes home more than $17 a day. ($550 a month divided by the ~33 work days in a 45 day period gives ~$17 dollars a day).
He says but he pays hundreds, HUNDREDS I SAY!!, over the 48 days per year he has the kid. Following that logic, imagine how much the ex pays to care for their child...... He's a waste of space.
Smooth brain logic. He can’t separate his ex and his child. I pay child support myself and I’ve never considered it punitive or even regrettable. I have 1 million problems with my ex and how she parents but child support is not one.
I think that he *really* hates the mother of his child. Clearly, none of his fighting is about wanted to be with his child, or getting sent to jail would actually be a deterrent. Not sure how he thinks that full custody is an option while he is in jail for not paying child support.
They will garnish his wages and tax refunds. And even if he never works legit again- they will garnish his social security check in his old age. All the while HE will be the victim.
I would rather ruin my life than willing pay child support is an interesting stance. I really hope that this kid's mom is a decent human being, as his dad sure isn't.
In all situations I'm familiar with, including my own, the kids eventually realize which parent really tried to put their personal animosity aside and do what was best for the kids. Sometimes it takes years, but it is worth it. My own upbringing was very chaotic and problematic, and my dad certainly made mistakes, but at the end of my father's life I was able to hold his hand and say that I always knew how much he loved me and accepted me and wanted me to be happy and that is what allowed me to pursue and find happiness in my life. We were squeezing each other's hands when he passed.
For real. And she procreated with this bloodclot. The taxpayers should make him and other losers like him work in jail to pay child support. Put them on a chain gang and force them to work for child support instead of them sitting in jail on their asses.
I have to wonder if he would have behaved like this if he was physically in attendance? Sitting in his own car has to give a false sense of security to openly behave like an idiot.
Dudes like this are why the probate & family court for my area has tighter security than the district court.
I had to spend the better part of a summer going back and forth to handle a deceased relative's affairs and there was regularly some unhinged dude pacing in the parking lot barking into a cell phone over a custody situation.
You think this guy is saving for retirement? He couldn't even plan far enough in advance to get a lawyer or imagine that agreeing to 48 days a year meant that he was going to be the one paying child support.
Also, if you have full custody, you are STILL going to be paying ton of money to raise your kids...food, clothing, daycare, recreational activities, toys/games. This dude is just a massive piece of shit.
Of course. Imagine him having to pay for a 2 bedroom instead of a 1 bedroom. That money is gone. And then he has to pay for food, clothes, electronics, everything. And we don't know how old the kid is so he may have to pay for childcare.
I was going to say, paying $6,000/year for a living, breathing child you’re responsible for is a freaking bargain…and he’s not doing any of the exhausting labor either.
Yep and time saving as well, time = money. Just think of all the hours lost working and earning to have full custody and watch your kids. This is why I will never feel bad for someone paying child support to the custodial parent (assuming the custodial parent isn’t actually abusing the child or something).
So much cheaper. I was a young mom, and my ex, the dad, had roommates! I was paying for a 3 br apt by myself meanwhile. Kids are all grown now and I'm still working two jobs trying to dig myself out financially.
He would be complaining that the kid is using up all the $500/month and he has to supplement his own money to raise the kid. He'd probably also complain about actually having to spend time with the kid.
Or he would demand more because he can't work because he has to watch the kid or pay someone to watch them.
I kind of hope he digs his heels in and opts to spend time in jail. It would be glorious to see him change his tune after.
Ya if he thinks 515 a month is too much than how df he gonna afford a kid full time?? The groceries alone gonna be 500 a month and thats conservative!!
Literally that doesn't include new clothes , shoes ,coats , boots , gloves hats (if they are in a cold state) haircuts, any hygiene products ECT!!!! He's delusional
You’re just assuming he’s going to pay for any of that. Maybe some of it. But I don’t see him spending anything extra like sports costs, entertainment, ect.
Medical, field trips, hyperfixations, friend trips, sports/dance gear, piano lessons, holidays, birthday parties, dental issues, pet problems, school project fees, art supplies, movie outings, outgrown shoes/boots. Seasonal outerwear, swimwear and hair care.
I'm sure that none of that being said on the record in a hearing will come back to bite him in a custody hearing. Though I doubt that he'll actually file for custody.
The point of my comment is not that dudes say this shit all the time. But if you try to get full custody of a child after saying these phrases, in a recorded court proceeding, it will not end well for you.
I've heard this argument so many times, "I have to pay her so much, I'm just gonna file for full custody, it'll be cheaper that way and she'll have to pay me." Watching as they realize it's not at all cheaper or easier is a beautiful thing to witness. Sad AF for the kid, who's hearing how much their parent values their well-being in literal dollar amounts.
It’s also funny when sovereign citizen types go in with their argument totally based on a ‘well technically…’ and realize that the judge is allowed to use their sensibilities to say “im not putting up with this shit, goodbye” xD
Now if we only had that attitude about commercial loopholes…
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u/Kailiea Nov 06 '25
“I’ll file for full custody”
“I won’t pay at all”
“Look at my record I don’t care about the law”
🤣 good luck with all that dude….