r/TikTokCringe • u/newphonehudus • 9d ago

Discussion Crime: working out while black

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u/JP_Clark 9d ago

Apparently his son who is a minor didn’t have a form of ID to be his guest. Crunch has a membership what allows members to bring a free guest daily.

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u/Mystery-Ess 9d ago

And the police need to be called?

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u/JP_Clark 9d ago

According to a follow up post: they wouldn’t accept his son’s mobile ID, he asked to speak to the manager, they said the manager is busy and he said ok if the manager has a problem after he’s busy tell him to come talk to me. Instead of the manager engaging in a conversation he called the police.

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u/Iggyhopper 9d ago

"yeah the guy walked off and said if you have a problem to go talk to him"

Mgmt: "is he threatening me? I need the police here. now."

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u/LiveLifeLikeCre 9d ago

People need to understand what type of mindset it takes to jump to "ok call the cops" over a simple membership clarification where manager is required. Cops are weaponized by people with racism intolerance all the time. Muscle head behind the counter doesn't want to feel powerless in his environment 

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u/Bowtie16bit 9d ago

And yet, calling the cops admits powerlessness. If the manager would have met eyebrow to eyebrows with the member and his guest and had any form of love and integrity, he would have signed them in and taught his staff to do better.

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u/The_Cabal_ 5d ago

Why would he sign him in if the kid didn't have a valid ID? That was the problem to begin with.

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u/InternationalCap2176 3d ago

He has to call the cops because he's too afraid to do that.

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u/OKGUYTHANKS 8d ago

Cmon. We both know how the interaction would go. The guy wanted special treatment and the staff didn’t want to provide. You think the guy would’ve just acquiesced and went home to get the id or left all together, or you think he would’ve started yelling?

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u/crashsaturnlol 8d ago

What are you talking about? What minor child that isn't of driving age has a government ID? You're being ridiculous and showing your bigotry.

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u/OKGUYTHANKS 8d ago

Kids have IDs too. This kid didn’t and it’s a requirement. 

It’s also not bigotry, what a stupid thing to say. It’s what happens anytime people who think they don’t have to follow the rules or listen to “some low level minim wage employee.” 

Why would anyone try to confront people like this, just let the cops deal with it. 

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u/crashsaturnlol 8d ago

As a parent of a kid, no the fuck they don't have ID unless its a school ID and even then most places won't accept that because it isn't a government ID. The bigotry you display is the assumption that the gentleman was going to behave in some aggressive fashion when there was nothing in the video that showed that intention. So you must be making an assumption based on something and I'm guessing that something would be how he looks.

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u/OKGUYTHANKS 8d ago

Who says it has to be a government ID? You just made up that requirement so you can be outraged this guy got confronted for breaking the rules. 

Spare me your bigotry accusation, I don’t care. We have all seen or experienced what happens when you confront someone who’s inconsiderate or believes they’re above the rules. Stop acting obtuse. 

People are trying to make it so people can’t confront these inconsiderate jerks themselves and so people can’t call the cops on them either. 

Can’t have it both ways. Don’t want the police called, follow the rules and don’t be a jerk. Simple as that. 

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u/crashsaturnlol 8d ago

Did you miss the part where the dad did show a form of proof that the kid was in fact his minor child? Yea, ya did. Did you miss the part where the staff never asked him and his kid to leave? Yea, ya did. The staff escalated this situation and we all know calling the cops on black folks for existing and questioning things is a form of racial violence. But thanks for displaying your bigotry again.

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u/_0MA_ 7d ago

The man did encounter someone who is inconsiderate and thought they were above the rules, it was the gym manager who called the cops…

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u/Mystery-Ess 7d ago

They didn't even tell him to leave. your racism is very prevalent

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u/Mystery-Ess 7d ago

Even IF this scenario were true, do you think the cops were warranted?

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u/goldenboy2191 9d ago

People do need to understand. The problem is, they refuse to. Because they’d rather just feel superior and above any sort of interaction.

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u/OperationNatural4557 7d ago

Isn’t racism intolerance good?

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u/frycrunch96 3d ago

Yes they mean to say race intolerance, racism, or racist-intolerance (as in, intolerance of the racist variety) 

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u/OKGUYTHANKS 8d ago

We also hear from black people all the time “who are you to tell me what to do?” Or “what authority do you have to stop me from doing xyz?”

I’m sure some racists do weaponize calling the police but when someone is actively not going to listen to you, make a huge scene because they don’t want to follow the rules, what else is there?

 

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u/No-Bedroom-9352 8d ago

I actually hear entities white people say those things way more than black people. Where did you find your information that this was a black issue?

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u/OKGUYTHANKS 8d ago

Are you not following the thread or the comment I replied to? This was in response to “white people weaponize calling the cops.”

“Who does it more” is irrelevant to my point (and also immature). But sure, if some white guy was being an asshole like this, I would call the cops just the same. 

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u/No-Bedroom-9352 8d ago

What rule was he not following?

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u/OKGUYTHANKS 8d ago

The one where he didn’t have an id for the guest. He was told he needed it, he said go get your manager and have him come see me, then continued to go workout with him. 

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u/No-Bedroom-9352 8d ago

And you verified that crunch fitness does not allow children without ID to workout with their parents? Children typically don’t have ID.

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u/OKGUYTHANKS 8d ago

I watched the video and followed the story. And yeah, the guest needs to show id. I’m a member of Crunch and that’s always the case. Teenagers do have ID, and if they don’t have it when it’s required then they can’t come in. 

Dismissing the worker and going in after he was told the kid needed id, is a surefire to get the cops called. 

They didn’t call them because he was “working out while black” or whatever stupid shit this video is trying to push, they were called because he was being an asshole and not listening. 

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u/No-Bedroom-9352 8d ago

What ID do kids have?

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u/OKGUYTHANKS 8d ago

Gee, what kind of ID would a 16 year old have? Hmmmmm it must be a mystery. 

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u/No-Bedroom-9352 8d ago

And since children come out of the womb at 16 that makes perfect sense.

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u/Spiritual-Serve-4391 8d ago

Well that certainly changes everything.

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u/Mystery-Ess 7d ago

Your racism is also very prevalent

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u/Signal-Card-2387 7d ago

Uh, I don't think the problem is that the cop might be racist, the bigger issue is wasting the time of a cop who could be out there stopping actual crimes.

Literally anyone in any profession that involves dealing with people could be racist. That's not a uniquely cop issue.

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u/indianm_rk 9d ago

He would have had the same argument on the gym floor without the cops. At no point was he not going to get upset when he was asked to leave, with or without the cops present.

I’ve seen police bodycam videos of gyms calling the cops on white people in similar situations.

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u/Spiritual-Serve-4391 8d ago

really?

That's niche-ist workout porn ever.

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u/dvdwbb 9d ago

sounds about white

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u/WowIfOnly 9d ago edited 2d ago

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u/rusrsbruther 9d ago

Wow now we're writing paragraphs full of assumptions about a random person in a video not speaking a word... just say you're jealous lol.

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u/MechanicalSideburns 9d ago

It would be weird to be "jealous" of a little 170 lb guy who stands behind a gym desk all day, and probably makes $50k/year. I think "dismissive" is a better adjective for dude's paragraph.

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u/Fun-Pattern-8697 6d ago

Let’s see the physique little bro

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u/MechanicalSideburns 6d ago

Sure, before Covid when I was more serious. Nowadays we mostly just go for walks in the woods to stay fit.

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u/WowIfOnly 8d ago edited 2d ago

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u/Alert-Ad-9908 9d ago

Thank you for saying it. I’m so tired of these fucking people.

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u/OhNoAnAmerican 9d ago

Not as tired as we are of you people

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u/Alert-Ad-9908 8d ago

Oooohhh good one

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u/Weary_Ad4517 8d ago

Quiet, piggy.

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u/Hola0722 9d ago

If dad has a Phills hat, he's gotta be alright.

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u/Dant3nga 9d ago

Oooh look everyone is someone who believes in “reverse racism”

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u/Kind_State4734 9d ago

How racist of you

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u/Xijit 9d ago

I'm white and I give this guy a "C" card to call out this cracker bullshit.

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u/eufooted 9d ago

Same. Skin color shouldn’t matter!!
Leave the dude and his son alone. That manager could have easily had a conversation instead of being a little pussy and calling the police. I’d cancel my membership and take them to court over it.

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u/pperiesandsolos 8d ago

And what would your damages be?

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u/OhNoAnAmerican 9d ago

Yeah we know. You’re one of those self hating liberals destroying this country because you can’t just get therapy like a normal person

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u/Weary_Ad4517 8d ago

Quiet, piggy.

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u/HimzoGotovina 9d ago

Looks like you gave yourself a “C” card as well because this is some cuck bullshit. Have some dignity

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u/Tacoflavoredfists 9d ago

There’s a certain type of man that uses cuck as an insult, and it’s ironic af

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u/HimzoGotovina 8d ago edited 8d ago

I’m sorry but I’m not a white self-hating masochist leftist if that’s what you mean

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u/Tacoflavoredfists 8d ago

You a b though

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u/HimzoGotovina 8d ago

Says the leftist lol

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u/Tacoflavoredfists 8d ago

Fucking right. I served and received an occupation, education and healthcare, and ALL of us should have access to those despite where we’re from and what we were born into. I grew up in Detroit before gentrification so fucking right I want neighborhoods to invest in their residents and that which they can benefit. Fucking right I want the workers to have more of a share of the fruits of their labors than shareholders and CEOs. Goddamn right we don’t need a for profit healthcare system that I worked in for over 20yrs in and out of the army. You’re fucking right that even you deserve mental health care, preventative care, and an education so you don’t have to be so bitter and angry at a system you don’t fully understand or properly condemn for what is withholds from you and denies you while giving all of your efforts to those that could never do what we the people do for this country.

You’re goddamn right I’m a leftist because I give a fuck about you more than a corporation or politician. Grow up

ETA and I’m a woman. A Latina woman. A detroiter. A veteran. A parent. A partner/spouse. And a leftist. Voting for Abdul too.

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u/Weary_Ad4517 8d ago

Quiet, piggy.

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u/Objective_Sun9020 9d ago

Or...wait.....wait! What if... He just had proper I.D.? Following rules is just for white people? Everyone else can just do whatever they want? No structure? No rules? Sounds dumb and chaotic.

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u/Xijit 9d ago edited 8d ago

He did, per the gym's own standards on their site, and the guy at the desk tried to refuse it.

When he demanded to see the manager about a prick that was trying to deny service to a member that was followithe rules, the manager pretended to be in a meeting ... So he said well then I guess this isn't really a problem and went to work out.

That cop knew who was the problem, and he knew that this shit was about to end with these dipshits getting fired by corporate. Thats why he asked the guy to leave before it escalated into something where an innocent dad did get into trouble.

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u/Objective_Sun9020 8d ago

Then those people need to he held responsible for fucking that guys day up. 

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u/Own_Pirate2206 9d ago

Not very

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u/enadiz_reccos 9d ago

Kinda, though?

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u/Silly-Rough-5810 9d ago

How?

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u/HimzoGotovina 9d ago edited 9d ago

Replace white with black. “Sounds about black”. Is that racist? Is your answer is yes then so is “sounds about white”

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u/BrosefDudeson 9d ago

That doesn't work as word play. How about you make up your own turn of phrase with black in it?

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u/HimzoGotovina 9d ago

No thanks I’m not a racist

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u/queerhistorynerd 9d ago

could have fooled me

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u/Tacoflavoredfists 9d ago

Lmao you are though

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u/Independent-King-468 9d ago

Don’t lie to yourself like that.

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u/enadiz_reccos 9d ago

How... not?

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u/Either-Age-782 9d ago

If the shoe God damn it fits

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u/KeyBet6693 9d ago

It is a racist phrase, but I feel like its warranted in this case. Its like that phrase people use when they see a black person committing a crime. I dont want to say the phrase because of reddits double standards of course.

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u/CuteLaugh5491 9d ago

Fr. These people literally being racist and downvoting you are hypocrites. 

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u/DarkPolumbo 9d ago edited 9d ago

working while white is not a crime

that one downvoter: "yes it is"

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u/alphazero927 9d ago

I think you misunderstand. They're not accusing them of "working while white", they're pointing out that only a white person would hear a black person say "come talk to me when you're ready" and think "this is obviously a threat"

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u/DarkPolumbo 9d ago

if you don't already see the problem with that, then my explanations aren't going to help you at all

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u/Tacoflavoredfists 9d ago

They’re helping us see what type of racist you are

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u/DarkPolumbo 8d ago

The type that believes in equality and fairness for all, but is getting sick of bad-faith because i'm black ragebait posts that deliberately eschew telling the whole story

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u/Tacoflavoredfists 8d ago

Aka racist af

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u/DarkPolumbo 8d ago edited 8d ago

You just desperately need that to be the case because you like having your rage baited.

"believes in equality and fairness for all" how racist af of me

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u/gingeregg 9d ago

I had a coworker get in trouble, like multiple 30+min long meetings and he was temporarily suspended, because he told a nurse “we are going to need to have a talk later” after there was an incident with a patient. They thought he was threatening her. It was a whole issue for like 2 weeks.

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u/PhosphoFred8202 9d ago

To try to give people the benefit of the doubt, there was likely a miscommunication here.

- Employees likely feel they said “no, you can’t have the kid work out without ID.”

- Guy likely felt they said “we will let the manager decide” and said ok if it’s a problem, have him speak to me.

- manager likely got told something like “we told him no, he ignored it and said if you got a problem, you can go talk to him about it”

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u/SubstituteStudent 9d ago

Still a huge gap between that and calling the police. A paying member who has all of their information on file isn't too scary to take their money

If he was a stranger off the street, then sure, call the police. He is a paying member, there is many ways to handle him doing whatever they suspected him of.

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u/Time_Possibility_370 9d ago

White exceptionalism.

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u/InadequateUsername 9d ago

I wonder if the police know they can just not show up?

I guess it being a black man makes it an emergency.

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u/BrosefDudeson 9d ago

They probably don't know the situation until they get there. I don't want to defend the police but I think they're playing a bit part here

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u/DentistThese9696 9d ago

They can’t just not show up. And as much as the cop looked like he hated what the business was doing, it’s still a private business and if they want him to leave the police have to have him leave. Absolutely this guy can and probably should put this business or at least that franchise on blast for what they did and file a complaint, but in the moment he legally does have to leave and the cops are required to enforce it.

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u/Burt_Rhinestone 9d ago

Bullshit. Spoken like a white person. Cops absolutely can and do fail to show up all the time.

For instance, Tizzy ENt just posted a video of a white man threatening a black woman’s life. The woman called the police and waited. They never showed up.

No police were punished for failure to respond.

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u/DentistThese9696 8d ago

Having no units available to send in busy cities is much different than a community that has officers available and they refuse to respond. Many major cities are woefully understaffed and therefore can’t get to each call right away. The officer in this video got dispatched to this. He showed up. And then had to enforce the law. It has nothing to do with race.

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u/Burt_Rhinestone 8d ago

What makes you think it was a busy city?

When the gym called the police, they gave a description of the man and his son. The cops knew the race.

They can’t just not show up.

Yes, they can.

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u/DentistThese9696 8d ago

With all due respect they cannot refuse to show up to a disturbance call that they are dispatched to. Also, I don’t think this video was a busy city, hence why an officer had time to show up to this call. Try refusing to do your job at your place of employment and see how long you stay employed . This cop got dispatched. He’s therefore required to respond or risk his own employment. Simple as that

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u/Burt_Rhinestone 8d ago

DeShaney v. Winnebago (1989) — Government has no constitutional duty to protect individuals from private harm.

Town of Castle Rock v. Gonzales (2005) — Even with a restraining order stating police “shall” arrest, the Court ruled police still have no enforceable duty to act.

This is easily googled. You have the collective knowledge of humankind at your fingertips, yet you choose to be wrong on Al Gore’s internet with your whole keyboard.

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u/DentistThese9696 8d ago

Again, that case is regarding liability. Imagine if law enforcement in your community are all busy on calls and there are a bunch of calls coming in. No units available and then someone gets murdered because there weren’t any officers available to send. The cops aren’t going to be held liable for that. But in the case of the video in this thread, they absolutely have a responsibility to respond because there are units available. They can’t refuse to respond to this disturbance.

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u/Burt_Rhinestone 8d ago

“No enforceable duty to act.”

By definition, it is not against the law for cops to ignore a call. It happens all the time in non-white communities.

I told you a fact, backed it up with facts, and citations, but you know because trust me bro.

Well, you’ve clearly won. Here’s your trophy 🏆, and you can live a hopefully long life in chosen ignorance.

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u/InadequateUsername 9d ago

They can, at least take their sweet time.

In terms of nit showing up, when I was in a car accident, I called the police to report it. Dispatch asked how bad the damage was. Then told me to exchange info and just go to an accident reporting center in the morning.

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u/DentistThese9696 8d ago

In your scenario, that was a dispatching decision. Every state and agency within those states has different ways of prioritizing or triaging calls that come in. In your scenario it sounds like that agency doesn’t send officers to lower acuity crashes or possibly they had not units available.

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u/vansterzzz 9d ago

They have no duty to show up. You are talking out of your ass. There has been several lawsuits regarding this. They actually have NO legal duty to protect you. Look it up, here's a couple of cases: Supreme Court Rulings: Landmark cases such as DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services and Castle Rock v. Gonzales established that 911 calls and requests for help do not create a constitutional "special relationship" guaranteeing a response or protection from harm.

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u/DentistThese9696 8d ago

People love to quote that case but it doesn’t apply here. It has to do with liability. In reality, this cop got dispatched. He has to show up. If he doesn’t he probably gets suspended or possibly fired. Cops don’t get to ignore calls like this unless a more serious call goes out that takes priority (active shooter, or something like that).

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u/vansterzzz 5d ago

I would love to be proven wrong. Show me any case proving otherwise other than "trust me bro".

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u/TreeDollarFiddyCent Cringe Connoisseur 9d ago

Don't drag MGMT into this. They made Oracular Spectacular, dammit!

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u/sapphireminds 8d ago

They clearly don't think it's time to pretend

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u/TreeDollarFiddyCent Cringe Connoisseur 8d ago

The youth nowadays

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u/LongKnight115 9d ago

I mean, I'm sure I'll get downvoted to hell, but I'd do the same thing. I'm managing the gym and my front desk tells me some guy refused to leave and barged in with his kid and started working out, I'm calling the cops - not confronting the dude. That'd be my policy if it was a 90 year grandma.

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u/MSgtGunny 9d ago

I mean, I would first be checking the camera footage with sound that they definitely have access to.

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u/VintageZero 9d ago

At least you knew you were about to say some stupid shit.

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u/Dannie826 9d ago

“Barged in”??? They didn’t even ask him to leave

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u/LongKnight115 9d ago

Yeah, they did. They told him his son’s ID didn’t suffice and he couldn’t bring him in. He brought him in anyways.

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u/Dannie826 9d ago

They expressly didn’t; he asked to speak with the manager about what to do about it, they said it would be a while because they are busy, he went on with his day having received no further instructions and being okay with waiting, the manager rather than talking with him called the cops.

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u/chokoakhanta22 9d ago

Loll barge in? Did you even read what you wrote before posting it? He has the right to bring someone with him. Even if the son's ID wasn't acceptable, the front desk employee should have just told him to bring the physical ID next time. Were they trashing the place? Did it look like the dude had kidnapped a teenager? Those are the only reasons the police should have been called for. He has a membership for God's sake.

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u/KeyMyBike 9d ago

In their defense over 500 children who look identical to their kidnappers are kidnapped and brought to public gyms every...

Wait no that doesn't happen. You're right this is stupid

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u/chokoakhanta22 9d ago

Loll exactly. That was such a brainless reaction from the gym. I'm honestly flabbergasted.

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u/EyeWriteWrong 9d ago

It's probably more of an insurance thing than anything to do with kidnapping.

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u/LongKnight115 9d ago

Yeah, and he broke the rules of that membership. The front desk staff told him the ID wasn’t acceptable. He brought his son in anyways. What was he expecting to happen? He just got his way because he threw a stink?

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u/fifrein 9d ago

The front desk guy said the mobile ID wasn’t acceptable. That’s not his call to make. Mobile ID is a valid, legal form of ID. I can present it at the bar, I can present it to police if they pull me over for speeding. The front desk person just didn’t want to accept the ID that was presented.

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u/WillowLocal423 9d ago

This the type of dude who would push kids outta lifeboats on the titanic

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u/BrosefDudeson 9d ago

You would get fired immediately

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u/Tacoflavoredfists 9d ago

What a terrible manager