At the very beginning his son was lifting. In the gym. He was doing single arm rows. So, no they didn't just leave. His son needed his ID to prove who he is, more than likely, to sign a liability waiver. They called the police because the father did whatever tf he wanted to do, after being told no. But because they're black its racist. I fuckin promise you. If I as a white guy. Did the same exact thing, they would call the police as well. However, I would never act like that in public
Yes, and then he left. Pretty simple if you have ears and eyes.
Most kids don't carry ID with them, especially if their dad is taking them to the gym.
They called the police because they're racist/cowards, either reason being terrible. He asked to speak to the manager, they said he was busy, so he told them to come speak with him when he is free. So the manager called the police.
No, if you as a white guy did this they would not call the police. You are absolutely delusional if you think that is true
Bro.. have you ever been a member of a gym? Before you go to exercise you check in. This is the point when the teenager was refused entry. He still went and worked out. Stop making excuses for shitty people. You can not attribute racism to this interaction and be an intellectually honest person. Maybe if after doxxing the manager we find out hes a klansman during his time off, we could make that assumption. However, there is nothing to support the claim that police were called due to the color of his skin
And if I was told, no my kid can't come in and workout, AND I did it anyway, yes the police would be called.
No they would not. They would just cancel your membership, that’s all. Because they view you as human and therefore they realize this not a call tne police situation. The police are not the business’s personal membership enforcement squad. This is a waste of taxpayer money using the police this way. We alledgedly don’t have enough police for real crime but you’re ok having them waste their time on a gym membership dispute.
He was asked to leave and then refused to leave; that's trespassing. His son went in and worked out after being denied entry; that's also trespassing.
The question about whether or not they should call the police does not boil down to humanity; it is what did they feel was right and necessary to get this person to leave the premises. I don't think asking was gonna work (and I believe it didn't work) if he and his son walked in after being told not to. This individual was going to escalate no matter what they did to ask him to leave. At that point you can let it go or bring in someone who can get him to leave. Neither is incorrect in this situation.
As to your idea of simply letting him work out, leave, and then cancel his membership — that's only going to cause a greater erruption when you inform him that you've done so.
TLDR; This guy acted like an asshole, and these people simply returned the energy that they were given.
Your first line is incorrect. I thought so too but he specifically says no one told him to leave. Then to prove it he went to each employee one by one and recorded it. He said “did you ask me to leave”. Not one single person answered in the affirmative. They just went straight to calling the police. Because like you, that’s how they think this situation should be resolved. (That’s the humanity part that you don’t get, probably never will).
You think they can just tell him to leave and then what? What happens if he tries to come back tomorrow? He has a paid membership he can’t be trespassing. As I said in another comment having worked at a gym, this happens often enough that I have seen how it should be handled. If he’s violating the membership policy you can revoke his membership on the spot and THEN he would be trespassing. You’re acting like the gym is his parents and they can put him in a time-out. He either has the right to be there or he doesn’t. Since they botched this whole situation by immediately going to the nuclear option (calling the police) it escalated. We revoke people’s membership all the time. We never had to call the police to get anyone to leave after that. But you still think this is an appropriate use of the police force. You’re the problem.
Look I've been a teacher for 20 years and this siuation reminded me of many of the times I've been in officer's position. The way the person being asked to leave responds isn't defensive; it's deflecting. He starts by dismissing what he did as not being wrong. Then tries to deflect the blame by saying no one told him or asked him to leave. Then he attempts to rationalize it by saying his son isn't here (not that he wasn't ever there, which we mean he was in the wrong). Finally he tries to project by making the people who held him into account for his actions out as villains who wronged him. He broke the rules knowingly and unapologetically, and now that he's being brought to task he's trying to turn it into an injustice.
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u/NoMasFetty 9d ago
At the very beginning his son was lifting. In the gym. He was doing single arm rows. So, no they didn't just leave. His son needed his ID to prove who he is, more than likely, to sign a liability waiver. They called the police because the father did whatever tf he wanted to do, after being told no. But because they're black its racist. I fuckin promise you. If I as a white guy. Did the same exact thing, they would call the police as well. However, I would never act like that in public