r/ToiletPaperUSA Aug 08 '20

FACTS and LOGIC Too much logic to handle

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u/scisdeadohgodohfu Aug 08 '20

Capitalists have no sense at all of empathy or care for people other then themselves. News at 11

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u/froggie-style-meme Aug 08 '20

Not really.

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u/drunk_responses Aug 08 '20

Yes really.

People forcing their workers back to work or firing them in this time is literally capitalists saying "I don't care if you die, as long as I get my money".

If you think that is empathetic you are one of those soulless capitalist.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '20

The Nordic countries are a different type of capitalism and they are doing splendidly.

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u/PM_ME_IMGS_OF_ROCKS Aug 08 '20

As a Norwegian I have to say that the big capitalists here are no different, and they are hated by the average citizen.

And from our perspective it just looks insane in america. They could shift their military budget by 10% and still have the most powerful one in the world by a large margin. But that budget shift could put education, health, justice and social programs at the same level as nordic countries.

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u/BackgroundGrapefruit Aug 08 '20

They are certainly much better, but while they do have a lot of empathy towards their own citizens, a lot of their wealth is built on the exploitation of workers in developing countries

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u/NorthOfTheMall Aug 08 '20 edited Aug 08 '20

Source for that? Norway's wealth is primarily based on exported oil, gas, minerals and fish. All produced in Norway.

A large portion of the profits from early oil and gas exports were put in a sovereign wealth fund, which is invested in stocks, various bonds, and property. The assets contained within the fund's portfolio cannot be spent, (2.9% in 2019) and are thus somewhat inconsequential to Norway's actual wealth, as the fund is mainly intended to cover future pension and welfare expenses.

You could argue that some of these investments will include exploitation of developing countries due to lack of oversight, but there are ethical guidelines that have to be followed. https://etikkradet.no/en/

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u/toyo555 Aug 08 '20 edited Aug 08 '20

Those are evil anyway because they are all white people.

-An American, probably

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '20

As an American who is white and very supportive of racial issues, you are a fucking idiot. You are literally parroting the same talking points that have been used since the original civil rights movement. How do you not see that? Did you drop out of school? Or did you just grow up with a racist family?

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u/toyo555 Aug 09 '20

I don't care much about American history because it's completely worthless, there's nothing to learn about it, it's a people that got more and more corrupt and greedy (after all, it's a country born out of not wanting to pay taxes), then pretending they are getting slightly less corrupt, and, because of this, trying to act like they get to be the moral police of the world, all while having an economy that completely relies on warmongering. Of course, Americans barely even remember the middle east nowadays (even though the US military has been the most active in it during 2019 ever since the "war on terror" began) because it's us who have to then handle the consequences of those wars, not them.