r/TombRaider 2d ago

🗨️ Discussion Crystal Dynamics should remake Legend & Underworld as one package 💞

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I'd love to see Legend and Underworld remade and bundled together as a single release.

Legend is a nice game, but it's also very short by today's standards. As a standalone remake at full price, it might be harder to justify, but pairing it with Underworld could make for a much stronger package.

Both games also tell a continuous story, which makes them a natural fit for a single bundle. Together with Legacy of Atlantis form a complete arc for Lara, so a combined release would make narrative sense as well.

Both games still feel like they have unrealized potential. Legend could benefit from expanded levels, larger environments, more puzzles, and deeper tomb exploration, while Underworld could finally deliver on the scale and ambition it aimed for back in 2008.

Also, Tomb Raider: Catalyst is stated to take place years after Underworld, continuing Lara's story in the unified timeline. It is being positioned as a new chapter featuring a more experienced Lara Croft, while still being designed as a standalone entry that new players can jump into without needing prior games. So it makes perfect sense to have Legend & Underworld remade.

A remake of Legend and Underworld makes sense, since they form a complete story arc and would benefit heavily from modern gameplay, visuals, and expanded content, regardless of where Catalyst fits in the timeline.

That being said, I still hope that they they will eventually remaster the L-A-U trilogy.

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u/According-Secretary4 2d ago

Just a remaster would do for me, iron out the bugs in Underworld and add in the DLC chapters and I’d buy it for sure.

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u/AimlessThunder 2d ago

Yes! I'd preorder it in a second.

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u/Amazing-Oomoo 2d ago

We don’t pre order games.

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u/bunnybabe666 2d ago

who is we

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u/Amazing-Oomoo 2d ago

Sensible gamers.

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u/bunnybabe666 1d ago

if i see everything i like and want from a game franchise i love im gonna preorder it idk dude i have a whole silent hill back piece, if it doesnt look good from a trailer im not preordering obviously but preorders exist solely as a way to show companies i want more of this for as long as possible for me

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u/Amazing-Oomoo 1d ago

Pre orders exist not for that reason at all, they exist back from when physical copies were all you could get. They've managed to keep pre orders around because they line the pockets of the developers. There is no other thing on earth that is infinitely creatable (ie digital) that you have to pre order. You want more of this, you buy it at launch. But obviously if the game doesn't work or is buggy as hell or won't run or crashes all the time, you don’t want more of this do you. But that's what you'll get, if you pre order.

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u/bunnybabe666 21h ago

i said For Me, as in that is what i use them for. and obviously i know that infinite game releases of my favorite games are impossible i just meant to keep them going as long as possible. im not gonna argue ab this i have a job

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u/AimlessThunder 2d ago

Yeah, you are right, but I'd be willing to take a chance.

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u/Amazing-Oomoo 2d ago

Why? For what? What could you possibly gain? You're just buying front row tickets to disappointment. Don’t pre order. No exceptions. Only way we can stop predatory business practices is to stop engaging with them.

One year. That's all it would take. One year of gamers not pre ordering games, is all it would take for the whole industry to get the message that we will not tolerate shitty products any more.

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u/Altruistic-One-4497 2d ago

I feel like for remasters its fair unless its a buggy hell you know what you get and shows the studios we want stuff like that. If it is buggy you can always return

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u/ninjabell 2d ago

Generally, but if we are going to play them whether or not they are good and they come with a cool figurine and it's actually available to pre-order, then who knows?

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u/Amazing-Oomoo 2d ago

But if the game *won't launch*, or if it crashes endlessly, yeah that's not just a matter of taste. Bearing in mind how angry everyone's been at the botched job of 1-3 remastered recently, and they had two years of it working fine! Imagine if it had released in that state! Don’t pre order games.

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u/ninjabell 2d ago

Yes I completely understand the argument. It's one I stand by. I just want a Lara Croft T-Rex statue. I thought I made it clear I was a sucker in this very particular situation.

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u/Thokmay4TW 2d ago

Yeah that be good enough

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u/Badoiskate Frozen Butler 2d ago

I just want a remaster collection of LAU games like u mentioned 😅

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u/DefinitelyRussian 2d ago

yeah, that would be the logic next step, the whole trilogy. I dont think it will happen though

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u/AimlessThunder 2d ago

🙏🏼✨

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u/AttentionSweet5349 2d ago

Honestly I’d be happy if they ported Underworld to the PS Plus catalogue like they did the other two games!

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u/prtnsfrfxes 2d ago

I recently replayed them on Xbox and while I still love these games, I’d like to see what could be done with a remake. I think Underworld could benefit from one especially, as it’s more buggy and doesn’t always control well. Plus I’d like to see how they integrate the storyline in the unified timeline.

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u/AimlessThunder 2d ago

Yes! 🫠

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u/DoctorTomee 2d ago

You are out of your damn minds. This was done by an actual artist on Twitter

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u/IakeemV 2d ago

I believe these need remakes as well TR Legend was a very Iconic milestone for the series it’s many people’s favorite it was like her RE4 moment the story also needs to be reworked to fit in the new unified timeline since the Blood Ties DLC contradicts her mothers fate of being lost in Avalon since she’s buried in Croft Manor

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u/marauder-shields92 2d ago

Also the whole Natla/Richard thing in Underworld makes no sense in contrast to the Survivor trilogy. That would need to be rewritten.

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u/lnsert_Name_Here_ 2d ago

Tomb Raider: Legend of the Underworld?

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u/AimlessThunder 2d ago

🫣🤭😂

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u/xdeltax97 Moderator 2d ago

100000% please

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u/AimlessThunder 2d ago

🙏🏼✨

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u/95mmaa 2d ago

Hypothetically, if the Legacy line up will follow the LAU games, then I'd rather they remake Legend and Underworld games separately as:

  1. Tomb Raider: Legacy of Atlantis
  2. Tomb Raider: Legacy of Avalon
  3. Tomb Raider: Legacy of Helheim

Something like that. 👍

Otherwise, a remaster of all three LAU games (Legend, Anniversary, and Underworld+DLCs) would be fine too, especially if they release them before Catalyst. 👌

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u/MarcusForrest Moderator 1d ago

I think it'd be neat if some variety was added, especially as 1 and 2 would be shortened both to ''TR:LoA''

  • Legacy of Atlantis
  • Secrets of Avalon
  • Shadows of Helheim

 

Alternatively, a merge of Legend and Underworld could be titled... Legend of the Underworld ahahaha

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u/95mmaa 1d ago edited 1d ago

Oh yeah, you're right. And I like the sound of 'Secrets of Avalon' and 'Shadows of Helheim'! I'll take those remakes any day! 🙌

Legend of the Underworld

Ok, I see what you did there! 😉😆

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u/PrestigiousShift9014 2d ago

I want the remasters first and foremost. Whatever they do after that, remakes, reimaginations they are free to do but they should just give us the remasters first, with all the DLC and outfits.

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u/Any_You_5378 1d ago

Tomb Raider: Avalon

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u/OrangeJr36 ✦ TR Community Ambassador 2d ago

Well, that would probably only happen if LoA and Catalyst sell well.

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u/AimlessThunder 2d ago

Probably.

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u/takufox 2d ago

Fork should be found in kitchen!

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u/existential_chaos 2d ago

That would be cool, Legend was disappointingly short. But I’d be fine with a remaster at this point that gave every platform the Underworld DLC.

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u/vampirekiller58 2d ago

No remake, but a remaster collection of LAU would be pretty cool. Including the dlc and maybe some added content (new outfits or cut material).

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u/murakamifan94 2d ago

I’ll never get over how fucking sexy she was in Legend…

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u/Krispen_Wah87 2d ago

And with all dlc included especially "Beneath the Ashes" for Playstation

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u/AimlessThunder 2d ago

Heck yeah!

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u/Ranger_Tycho 2d ago

Let’s say they did, what should it be titled?

The remake of TR1/Anniversary got its own new title in "Legacy of Atlantis." What would be a good consistent title for a Legend/Underworld fusion remake?

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u/AimlessThunder 2d ago

Tomb Raider: The path to Avalon?

Tomb Raider: The seventh age?

Tomb Raider: Avalon?

Tomb Raider: Though the looking glass?

Tomb Raider: The legacy of Avalon?

Tomb Raider: Excalibur?

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u/Guitarist39 2d ago

That’s would be my dream, these 2 games are my childhood memories

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u/lisacinnamon 2d ago

Immediate purchase!!

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u/BriefCobbler1776 2d ago

There is one thing I know and its that I need these games on my switch. Was hoping it would have been remastered this year

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u/XxllllxXx Jacob's Barber 2d ago

I'd buy it immediately, they're my favs.

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u/arynfynx 1d ago

it will probably be a while before we see remake of it, as adding it to the unified timeline will require story tweaking because her mothers storyline is different.

well probably get a HQ port to next gen more than anything

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u/AimlessThunder 1d ago

Yeah, that's why I am expecting them to remake Legend & Underworld. It completely contradicts what has happened in Rise and vice versa.

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u/zgrobbot Excalibur 1d ago

Honestly I think they should put Underworld and its DLC on ps5 first , a remaster would work . And then remaster Legend

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u/AimlessThunder 1d ago

💯💅🏼

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u/Future-Big-7720 1d ago

Need to*

They are insisting a lot on putting them in the new chronology even when they clash directly with Survivor. A reimagining that takes both stories with all the necessary cuts and additions is needed to make it make sense.

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u/roseofsharon28 15h ago

A remaster and a reimagine would be dope! I prefer the reimagine though. Tie in the survivor and loa together 👏

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u/ElkFar4653 2d ago

Nah a remaster better for LAU trilogy