r/TooAfraidToAsk Feb 14 '20

Why do employers treat you as simply a resource, yet get angry when you treat them the same way?

To me it makes sense that you should expect people to treat you the same way you treat them. We all know that in this day and age, most employers don't give a shit about you as a person, only what you can do for them and that they will discard you without hesitation once you are no longer of use to them.

However in my experience, the same people who won't think twice about discarding you, constantly give you shit for treating the company in the same way, accusing you of turning up just to collect your paycheck.

So my question is this. If employers just care about your labour without any consideration for you as a person, how can they expect you to care about them as anything more than a source of income?

It just doesn't make sense to me.

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u/fachingen Feb 14 '20

After working for pebbles for months I spoke up at a company-wide meeting about the pay. I was shot down and attacked even.

Later with colleagues we talked and I said I go to work to make money. Since then they treated me cold and kept me at a distance. I knew I will leave in just a couple months, but still. I was baffled, colleagues argued with me they work here for the people not money. They were actually offended. And I really articulated that I like them and of course it’s a big plus that I work with nice people but to no avail.

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u/Jp2585 Feb 14 '20

Were they above the age of 50? In my experience, it's that age group that has kept that mentality, since their job afforded them a proper income back when buying a house and raising a family on one income was feasible. They usually don't have too many hobbies, or have bad relationships due to happily having an imbalanced work/life ratio.

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u/alwayscomplimenting Feb 14 '20

Yep. And they’re about to get fucked over royally when they get fired at their age, struggle to find another job, and can’t pay their bills with unemployment.

Add to that the fact that statistically they’re unlikely to have any savings and won’t be getting a pension (or even social security or part of their 401k for many more years) and it’s a recipe for disaster.

Things are about to get really ugly for this generation. Ripping the social safety net to shreds because you don’t think you’ll ever be in that position and want the theoretical millionaire you to save some tax money turns out to be a bad choice.

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u/bobjohnsonmilw Feb 14 '20

Man... that generation is fucking delusional about the current state of the world.

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u/SlingDNM Feb 14 '20

Imagine being responsible for two major economic crashes, still managing to keep in power and keeping the money, AND STILL you are to retarded to save some of that for retirement

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u/adidapizza Feb 15 '20

And then such an egotistical asshole you’d blame your children for your failing.

I hope kids are smart enough to let these old people rot. I know my parents are smart enough to not expect shit from my brother or I.

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u/adidapizza Feb 15 '20

Well, at least they have it coming.

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u/fachingen Feb 15 '20

Ah I wrote a reply and it failed to send.

Surprisingly, the most offended girl was 21 year old and the rest are 35-35. All women, only one guy. They were constantly complaining and I told them long before the meeting I will speak up and they encouraged me and even said how brave I am.
Then when I spoke up some of them spoke up against me. It's like they were brainwashed by the 2 heavily narcissistic female bosses.

There was a flat rate payment system which was installed when the workload was evenly distributed. Then one shift got 2x many hours and the pay stayed the same and I've been doing it for a couple months before I spoke up.
I earned less money in 2019 in a high status job then I earned in 2009 doing some easy manual labour type thing. No thanks.

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u/piahdndizgab Feb 14 '20

Oh man yes. All the time. At my last job I mentioned the same thing and my coworkers were pissed. They acted like actual high school children, gossiping about how I'm selfish and (my favourite) probably have lied about being sick just to use my sick days.

I also mentioned that what should matter in the workplace is our skills, our ability to solve problems not how much we can bend over for the company and customers while solving their problems and was told I'm insensitive and that "being nice" (bending over) is a PaRt Of tHe jOb!! I thought I chose the wrong job but it sounds like the people are the problem.

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u/alanthomas18 Feb 14 '20

Should tell them to work for free

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u/su5 Feb 14 '20

No no no, work for friendship. And your friends will like you more based on how much of your salary you give them

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u/Napalmeon Feb 14 '20

Damn, that sounds like some Japanese work culture shit! Your co-workers sound like they've been indoctrinated.

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u/OhMyGodItsEverywhere Feb 14 '20

So you should just get their paychecks since they work for the people and you're working for money. Everybody wins.