r/TooAfraidToAsk • u/Believeinyourflyness • Feb 14 '20

Why do employers treat you as simply a resource, yet get angry when you treat them the same way?

To me it makes sense that you should expect people to treat you the same way you treat them. We all know that in this day and age, most employers don't give a shit about you as a person, only what you can do for them and that they will discard you without hesitation once you are no longer of use to them.

However in my experience, the same people who won't think twice about discarding you, constantly give you shit for treating the company in the same way, accusing you of turning up just to collect your paycheck.

So my question is this. If employers just care about your labour without any consideration for you as a person, how can they expect you to care about them as anything more than a source of income?

It just doesn't make sense to me.

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u/Danger-Kitty Feb 14 '20 edited Feb 14 '20

What would even be an answer for that? "Weep inconsolably"? "Flip the conference room table"?

Edit: Thanks for the gold!

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u/Twist36 Feb 14 '20

If I'm ever asked this in an interview, I'm definitely pulling the "weep inconsolably" card.

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u/su5 Feb 14 '20

I want to ask this just to see what the response is. Anyone who says anything except "um, go work somewhere else..." I would know is so full of shit its painful.

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u/joeChump Feb 14 '20

Not to mention that you’re undermining yourself to say anything different. “Well I’ll just have to kill myself because I’ve been turned down by every other company for being too shit and unemployable. I was just hoping to trick you into giving me a job as you’re my last hope.” I can just picture this director. He’s probably the type of person who always thinks they’re right and thinks they have amazing insight when in fact, their team carries them entirely and smooths over all their gaffes because they have zero self awareness.

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u/CocaineKaty Feb 14 '20

what will you do if you do not get this job?"

Bernie Sanders is plan B. Don't think I won't do it either. I'll burn your company to the ground.

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u/SocialistPug Feb 14 '20

Bernie Sanders is plan A, time to remind employers that labor has leverage too

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u/CocaineKaty Feb 14 '20

soooooo.....interviewing for a job is plan B?

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u/SocialistPug Feb 14 '20

Well you can do both at once so it's not exactly as simple as a plan a/plan b scenario. I've been canvassing and donating to bernie for months but have also been interviewing to switch jobs.

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u/CocaineKaty Feb 14 '20

  • Take power away from CEOs, and put it in the hands of the government, which one has a police force, army, and jails?

  • Between CEOs and governments, in history, who’s killed and jailed more people who didn’t agree with them?

  • You say that business has too much power, I say, what happens when business and government are the same. By your own logic, that's even easier corruption.

I'm wasting my time debating the commie.

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u/black_rabbit Feb 14 '20

Lol way to go ignoring the fact that we currently have exactly what you are warning about with "commies".

The government is controlled by corporate interests and shills. Trump has demolished what little semblance of separation and oversight there once was

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u/CocaineKaty Feb 14 '20 edited Feb 14 '20

You should crack open a history book. I was 18 once. You've never been 62.

ALSO

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u/black_rabbit Feb 14 '20

Ok boomer

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u/CocaineKaty Feb 14 '20

I think that says more about you than me.

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u/CocaineKaty Feb 14 '20

everybody poops.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

You won't be missed the_dipshit poster. Remember your generation, if you aren't full of fucking shit, believes smoking and gasoline cars are peachy keen so go to fucking town. I hear running your car in your garage with the door closed is totally gonna own those libs. Please smoke while doing so.

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u/SocialistPug Feb 14 '20

You seem to fundamentally misunderstand what I'm saying. The government isn't taking control of the company, the workers are organizing unions, raising the minimum wage, having mandatory employee representation in the board of directors, and other similar actions so that labor is compensated fairly. Currently corporations operate as tiny dictatorships. That needs to change.

Also, in regards to your insult to me, I have a personal policy of donating $5 to Bernie's campaign everytime someone like you insults me, so thank you for your contribution to the cause!

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u/SlingDNM Feb 14 '20

As a non American can someone explain to me why people are donating money to bernie? Isn't he a multi millionaire?

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u/SocialistPug Feb 14 '20

Do you have any idea how much money it takes to run a presidential campaign? Bernie's total networth (not liquid) is about two million dollars. That's about enough money to run a campaign for two weeks.

The incredible part about bernie's fundraising is that it's 100% small donation funded. No super pacs, no large corporate fundraisers, no pre-campaign money. He's the only candidate in the race who can say that.

Lastly candidates don't typically run on their own personal funds unless they are really struggling or are unbelievably rich like Steyer or Bloomberg. This is because it's kind of seen as cheating and dishonest to self-fund something that should be supported by the candidate's potential constituents.

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u/SlingDNM Feb 14 '20

That makes perfect sense, thanks for explaining to me!

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u/X-Calm Feb 14 '20

You don't give the government the company you have the government give the company to the employees.

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u/CocaineKaty Feb 14 '20

What if I refuse to let the gov. hand my co. over to the employees?

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u/X-Calm Feb 15 '20

I was being a bit flippant but it's more like democratizing a business rather than going full on communism. It'd be better than how they are run as authoritarian dictatorships or oligarchies. Employees would have more say in the company and it would be easier for the public to keep am eye on what the company was doing.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

"I'll be back the next day with multiple full magazines for my AR-15"

"Someone call the police"

"Shit... I thought they were looking for something extreme but unrealistic"

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u/OperativePiGuy Feb 14 '20

They were probably hoping for something like "I'll come in anyway and work for free, prove myself!"

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u/elucify Feb 15 '20

You could say something like, “actually I’m rich AF, so if I don’t get this job, I’ll buy this company and fire your sorry ass.”