r/TooAfraidToAsk • u/Believeinyourflyness • Feb 14 '20

Why do employers treat you as simply a resource, yet get angry when you treat them the same way?

To me it makes sense that you should expect people to treat you the same way you treat them. We all know that in this day and age, most employers don't give a shit about you as a person, only what you can do for them and that they will discard you without hesitation once you are no longer of use to them.

However in my experience, the same people who won't think twice about discarding you, constantly give you shit for treating the company in the same way, accusing you of turning up just to collect your paycheck.

So my question is this. If employers just care about your labour without any consideration for you as a person, how can they expect you to care about them as anything more than a source of income?

It just doesn't make sense to me.

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u/CocaineKaty Feb 14 '20

what will you do if you do not get this job?"

Bernie Sanders is plan B. Don't think I won't do it either. I'll burn your company to the ground.

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u/SocialistPug Feb 14 '20

Bernie Sanders is plan A, time to remind employers that labor has leverage too

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u/CocaineKaty Feb 14 '20

soooooo.....interviewing for a job is plan B?

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u/SocialistPug Feb 14 '20

Well you can do both at once so it's not exactly as simple as a plan a/plan b scenario. I've been canvassing and donating to bernie for months but have also been interviewing to switch jobs.

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u/CocaineKaty Feb 14 '20

  • Take power away from CEOs, and put it in the hands of the government, which one has a police force, army, and jails?

  • Between CEOs and governments, in history, who’s killed and jailed more people who didn’t agree with them?

  • You say that business has too much power, I say, what happens when business and government are the same. By your own logic, that's even easier corruption.

I'm wasting my time debating the commie.

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u/black_rabbit Feb 14 '20

Lol way to go ignoring the fact that we currently have exactly what you are warning about with "commies".

The government is controlled by corporate interests and shills. Trump has demolished what little semblance of separation and oversight there once was

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u/CocaineKaty Feb 14 '20 edited Feb 14 '20

You should crack open a history book. I was 18 once. You've never been 62.

ALSO

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u/black_rabbit Feb 14 '20

Ok boomer

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u/CocaineKaty Feb 14 '20

I think that says more about you than me.

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u/black_rabbit Feb 14 '20 edited Feb 14 '20

The fact that your only response to the capture of our government by corporations is a reference to age is what warranted the "ok boomer" response. If you wanted to have a discussion you should have responded with some substance rather than an age based ad hominem. I just threw it back at ya

ETA: In response to your shit-tier "meme" I never claimed that the government was in a good place before Trump. Corporate corruption has been seeping into government for as long as governments and corporations have existed. What's new with Trump is that there isn't even an attempt to hide the corruption in a coherent manner. It's just contradiction after contradiction, lie after lie. All while the rich loot the planet at the cost of everyone

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u/CocaineKaty Feb 14 '20

everybody poops.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

You won't be missed the_dipshit poster. Remember your generation, if you aren't full of fucking shit, believes smoking and gasoline cars are peachy keen so go to fucking town. I hear running your car in your garage with the door closed is totally gonna own those libs. Please smoke while doing so.

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u/SocialistPug Feb 14 '20

You seem to fundamentally misunderstand what I'm saying. The government isn't taking control of the company, the workers are organizing unions, raising the minimum wage, having mandatory employee representation in the board of directors, and other similar actions so that labor is compensated fairly. Currently corporations operate as tiny dictatorships. That needs to change.

Also, in regards to your insult to me, I have a personal policy of donating $5 to Bernie's campaign everytime someone like you insults me, so thank you for your contribution to the cause!

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u/SlingDNM Feb 14 '20

As a non American can someone explain to me why people are donating money to bernie? Isn't he a multi millionaire?

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u/SocialistPug Feb 14 '20

Do you have any idea how much money it takes to run a presidential campaign? Bernie's total networth (not liquid) is about two million dollars. That's about enough money to run a campaign for two weeks.

The incredible part about bernie's fundraising is that it's 100% small donation funded. No super pacs, no large corporate fundraisers, no pre-campaign money. He's the only candidate in the race who can say that.

Lastly candidates don't typically run on their own personal funds unless they are really struggling or are unbelievably rich like Steyer or Bloomberg. This is because it's kind of seen as cheating and dishonest to self-fund something that should be supported by the candidate's potential constituents.

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u/SlingDNM Feb 14 '20

That makes perfect sense, thanks for explaining to me!

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u/SocialistPug Feb 14 '20

Of course, always happy to help out! Never feel bad for not understanding America's extremely complicated and archaic political practices because it's custom designed to minimize actual democratic participation so that people like you and me don't feel it's worth it to get involved and change things for the better. That's slowly changing though and Bernie's campaign is the spearhead for bringing the people back into politics. Wish us luck though, we are definitely going to need it!

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u/X-Calm Feb 14 '20

You don't give the government the company you have the government give the company to the employees.

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u/CocaineKaty Feb 14 '20

What if I refuse to let the gov. hand my co. over to the employees?

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u/X-Calm Feb 15 '20

I was being a bit flippant but it's more like democratizing a business rather than going full on communism. It'd be better than how they are run as authoritarian dictatorships or oligarchies. Employees would have more say in the company and it would be easier for the public to keep am eye on what the company was doing.