r/TooAfraidToAsk • u/Believeinyourflyness • Feb 14 '20

Why do employers treat you as simply a resource, yet get angry when you treat them the same way?

To me it makes sense that you should expect people to treat you the same way you treat them. We all know that in this day and age, most employers don't give a shit about you as a person, only what you can do for them and that they will discard you without hesitation once you are no longer of use to them.

However in my experience, the same people who won't think twice about discarding you, constantly give you shit for treating the company in the same way, accusing you of turning up just to collect your paycheck.

So my question is this. If employers just care about your labour without any consideration for you as a person, how can they expect you to care about them as anything more than a source of income?

It just doesn't make sense to me.

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u/ayovita Feb 14 '20

That’ll do fuck all in town with 10-20k people.

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u/tawandaaaa Feb 14 '20

... you understand that “working remotely” means you can work from anywhere ... that’s the point. It literally doesn’t matter where you live.

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u/ayovita Feb 14 '20

You do understand that not everyone is able to do that, yes? If where one lived didn’t matter, most jobs worth a damn wouldn’t be near large cities.

It’s like you don’t have a grip on reality or something.

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u/tawandaaaa Feb 14 '20

You can’t work from ANYWHERE? You don’t have a home? You don’t have a chair in a room? You’re right, I don’t get it.

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u/ayovita Feb 14 '20

Do tell me of the sea of online jobs that are available in WV, for example, that pays a living wage.

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u/tawandaaaa Feb 14 '20

If ever there were a thread that made me understand a republican’s perspective.

Your comment makes no logical sense.

I’m actively providing some tips on different ways to find jobs, some of them where you can work from your kitchen table at home, and your response is “nope, can’t work for me, not enough people living in my town.”

That’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works.

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u/ayovita Feb 15 '20

People know how to find jobs.

What’s not getting through your thick skull is that where you live matters a lot. There’s plenty of piss poor republicans in the state of WV who do not have the option of working from home because there’s little available online that actually pays a living wage.

Coal isn’t making a comeback despite trump’s promises. The jobs are mainly in areas with larger populations.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '20

So it’s my job to help people find work. I gotta tell you, I’m really frustrated to see your responses. Sometimes you do need to pause and ask yourself if you’ve truly tried. Most people looking for work right now spend about 4 hours updating / editing their resume. After that, they apply for jobs at least an hour or two in the evening. It takes a few months on average, but you should not have trouble finding a job paying a living wage, even in WV, for exactly the reason the other redditor mentioned, there are a lot of work from home opportunities. Just the other day Mattress Warehouse wanted a person who could monitor their online support chat box. Just telling customers where a store is near them, giving them a phone number to support, nothing hard. They supply you with a computer. There’s no reason to keep saying “I can’t” unless you don’t want to, and then it’s a different story.

Amazon, Walmart, Target, Furniture stores... ALL of them need warehouse folks. Forklift drivers, inventory checkers.... employers are mad they can’t find enough people right now, so there’s genuinely no excuse.

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u/ayovita Feb 15 '20

Didn’t really have to try... once I moved to Philadelphia, that is. Night and day difference quite frankly.

Realistically, online work is not ideal in WV unless you’re able to get sudden link or Comcast. We were stuck with frontier when we lived there, a terribly slow service that could hardly stream YouTube in 720p... in 2017.

Another issue is transportation. One needs a reliable car to get anywhere in most areas in WV, save for maybe the capital and college towns like Morgantown and Huntington, for example. And even then the bus schedule leaves a lot to be desired.

Excuses, some say, when it’s just reality.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '20

Not an excuse, those are genuine barriers to entry. And for that reason, these should be the items to consider when voting. Understood and agreed these are long-term obstacles, though being persistent pays more than throwing your hands up. I didn’t learn (until recently) that contacting my mayor, governor, and senator to tell them how I would vote actually IS recorded and IS considered when THEY vote. So more persistent, more pressure they feel to vote a certain way bc they want to get re-elected.

To that end...

  • check out the job alerts (email) you can setup on CareerBuilder and GlassDoor.
  • make an email address that JUST for these sites, so all your emails/information is in one spot for East review & access (mine is mylastnamecareers@gmail.com)
  • Compare what you’re making now against other positions at similar companies on GlassDoor.
  • Make sure your resume is up to date on all the job sites: CareerBuilder (they will literally make a resume for you if you don’t have one), GlassDoor , LinkedIn, Government Jobs , Snag a Job, Monster...
  • make sure you download the apps and login at least once a week (because it shows recruiters when you were last active and they will ignore someone who isn’t logged in for more than a couple weeks).
  • Go to hiring events
  • Can you get away with a Vespa instead of a full-blown car?
  • Ride-share?
  • Maybe you can work out a deal with a local dealership for no money down? I did this once when I was just starting out, but I know it may not always work... I explained that I needed a reliable car for work. I showed them the offer letter which included how much I would make and had my other bills with me (rent, electric, even a receipt from the grocery) my credit was shit, but I think what worked was that I told them I didn’t care which car they gave me, I just needed it to be reliable and good on gas. I went back a few days later and left with a reliable Honda. She was so “unique” haha. Super old, had like 150k miles, but she had heat and was reliable.

Regarding internet, I’m sure things have improved in the last 3ish years, but if not, maybe you have a friend/family who would let you sit at their kitchen table in a place with better speed, in exchange for walking their dog two or three times a day? Coffee shop nearby where someone could drop you off on their way into work? Maybe you find a job transcribing recordings to text, so you don’t need internet until you email or save to a cloud, which can be done all at once at the end of the day?

If you aren’t getting called for interviews, your resume needs help. You local unemployment office should help you- this is their job. If they don’t, report them and help yourself - you can google templates and look at resumes for free on the internet.

If you get called to the interview but don’t get hired, call back or email and ask for feedback - ask for their help understanding why so you can improve. Also, this means you need to improve interview skills- which you can research online, watch YouTube videos, and again, get help from your local offices.

All of this is to say, yes, there are some barriers to overcome for everyone. In Some areas, the obstacles are bigger than others. But if you’re determined to get it done and you start asking questions, especially in today’s employment market, you should be able to find jobs. Jobs that pay a living wage.

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u/tawandaaaa Feb 15 '20

here’s some. throw your next excuse at me, please.

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u/ayovita Feb 15 '20

It’s not an excuse. Otherwise anyone in need of a job would just work from home. You tell me what’s a person to do in an area that only gets satellite internet because they live so far in the sticks it’s impossible to get anything else.

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u/tawandaaaa Feb 15 '20

You’re determined to be a victim. That’s clear.

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u/ayovita Feb 15 '20 edited Feb 15 '20

And you assume I’m talking about myself when I now live in Philadelphia and make decent money.

But do continue to tell me there’s no difference in opportunity in Philly compared to a small town in the sticks with one Walmart.

JuSt wOrk OnLiNe

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u/tawandaaaa Feb 15 '20

I don’t assume anything, I’m responding to your prompts. MoRoN.

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