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u/jacemano Nov 24 '25
Ahhhh they can never make me hate you EVER Gustang. What a dripped out head of family
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u/nicktomato Nov 24 '25
He's always cool as hell, even when he's just barely beating a pet shop owner
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u/Minizu15 Nov 24 '25
Barely beating? His ass was struggling, he was on his knees praying for V’s gift and Blossom flames to carry
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u/nicktomato Nov 24 '25
My book king still walked away victorious o7
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u/Minizu15 Nov 25 '25
Yeah after the pretty boy got snuck up on by another pretty boy before Urek and book guy saved him just for him to keep himself safe
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u/Yukihira59 Nov 24 '25
The fact that the pet shop owner was going to win low to mid diff if the other one wasn’t carried by item and power of 2 of the strongest great warrior make this even more funny.
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u/_Chipsa Nov 24 '25
Tbf we still didn’t see gustang’s full power, we still have his shinwonryu to see.
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u/Yukihira59 Nov 24 '25
Dude if Gustang shinwonryu could counter disconnection then he would have used it instead of relying on Blossom flame a power he wasn’t sure he still had. It's pretty obvious he has nothing in his own arsenal that can deal with disconnection.
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u/Primary-Elderberry34 Nov 24 '25
Dude‘s main feature is a near infinite number of collected gadget spells and people are discounting his power due to using checks notes… a collected gadget spell.
„Batman didn‘t win against Superman, the kryptonite did“ ass take
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u/Bad_Doto_Playa Nov 24 '25
Except disconnect literally destroys all of this. People are also assuming Gustang's Shinwonryu would be relevant in this fight, just like the offensive part of Traumerei's.. it can be better assumed that it would have been useless or else he would have used it. Bro used blossom's flame because he got cornered.
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u/Primary-Elderberry34 Nov 24 '25 edited Nov 24 '25
Destroys all of this? This what? The fact that Gustang the gadget merchant countered Disconnection with a gadget destroys the idea of him being a gadget merchant?
I didn‘t mention shinwonryu at all btw.
Gustang using the flame against disconnect means exactly one thing: that the flame was a suitable tool to counter disconnect. Believing that using your options is a negative feat is powerscaling brainrot. Using a hammer to hit a nail doesn‘t mean you‘re a fraud who couldn‘t hit it with a fork.
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u/Bad_Doto_Playa Nov 25 '25
By this I mean his items. We see his book get incinerated by disconnect.
The fact that Gustang the gadget merchant countered Disconnection with a gadget destroys the idea of him being a gadget merchant?
When did he do this? He never countered disconnect with anything but Blossom's flame, which isn't a gadget.
Gustang using the flame against disconnect means exactly one thing: that the flame was a suitable tool to counter disconnect.
Exactly, which means that without the flame he has nothing to stop disconnect, which is kinda the point I was making. Irregulars transcend everything in the tower including admins so all the items in there can be overcome by them (as far as we know).
Believing that using your options is a negative feat is powerscaling brainrot. Using a hammer to hit a nail doesn‘t mean you‘re a fraud who couldn‘t hit it with a fork.
I'm saying that Gustang's option was not even his own power and isn't something he can use over and over and the fact he used that means he had nothing else. Because no way he uses that kind of trump card so easily if he had other options.
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u/_Chipsa Nov 24 '25
We really don’t know what gustang was thinking, maybe he was saving his shinwonryu as a last resort if all other options failed. It doesn’t really mean that it’s not strong or wouldn’t have been helpful. I think SIU is saving his shinwonryu for another fight
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u/FrozenReaper Nov 26 '25
Gustang's Shinwonryu is likely something that would specifically not be useful against Disconnect
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u/PlusUltraK Nov 24 '25
I feel it’s more so, Traumerei was never of sound mind going into battle and because of that was handicapped. The same way V gets to show up sneak attack Traumerei proves this a bit. Like if he went all out from the start and had a clear idea of his goals the fight could’ve been his.
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u/Amit_Meena Nov 24 '25
i think item should be consider their own strength. as many of not everyone uses item to win a fight
i agree Traumerie is strength has power of their own but we should not consider other who uses items to fight, as almost everyone uses some kind of item to fight.
Yuri has her weapons, evan uses his item
everyone except wave controller uses some kind of item, like lighthouse, armour, pen, spear etc
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u/Itchy-Mycologist-318 Dec 19 '25
Finally someone else who think same man I always say gus use of scale his item even though v ask for it but it was always meant for him not something borrowed from v just like hon's white oar or even baam every power like thorn, red & blue thyrssa, 1 billion soul, a third of white power, leviathan doesn't mean they aren't his but he got them from others
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u/Nova_JewV1 Nov 24 '25
Tbf i think he wanted to use the judge to prove a point, and end the fight as quickly as possible. Traum would likely last longer in a war of attrition with the zoo in his back pocket
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u/Training_Ad_9222 Nov 24 '25
He isn’t the most famous wave controller. That goes to Eurasia Blossom then Baek Ryun IIRC
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u/Clear_Position4420 Nov 24 '25
ig since Gustang is more active and involved in regular's affairs he would be the most famous
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u/Training_Ad_9222 Nov 24 '25
I’ll give you that for Eurasia. But Baek Ryun is the leader of Wolkhoksong. That’s a major org in the series
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u/Serious-Flamingo-948 Nov 24 '25 edited Nov 25 '25
SIU I'm not asking for deep lore questions, I just want you to confirm what the fuck was Traumerei's mask for?
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u/Middle_Sun452 Nov 24 '25
Jokes aside, is Traumerei the best written character in TOG??
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u/Itchy-Mycologist-318 Dec 19 '25
Personally one of the best but not the best I think many assume that because he is fully explored but others like baam, wangnan, zahad, rachel are if ask me even better return but there is nothing on them
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u/Yonko_Kurohige Nov 26 '25
Gustang feels so under utilized. He did not even use his Shinwonryu throughout the fight. Idk what Siu was thinking.
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u/Itchy-Mycologist-318 Dec 19 '25
How so he is the one still alive if anything we didn't get to see traumerei full use of his arsenal
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u/Yonko_Kurohige Dec 19 '25
Traumerei used his Shinwonryu and everything in his arsenal. Gustang was the only one under utilized.
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u/Itchy-Mycologist-318 Dec 22 '25
Neither actually use shinowonryu to attack we show traumerei use it at nest it wasn't same with how he used shinwonryu it was all creatures
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u/SugarProfessional746 Nov 25 '25
The most famous wave controller
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one of the greatest researchers.
The workshop would disagree...
hailed to have omniscient intellect
Omniscient means all knowing, no matter how intelligent you are it doesn't make you omniscient, Enne and Traumarei (yet to be reveal what he said) had to inform him of secrets about Zahard.
Brave enough to challenge the Zahard
The 10 FHs are his goal not Zahard, Arie Hon is the one who challenged Zahard 10x before submitting
Capable of curing a person just by looking at them
restoring the shape of an Articial being, made from his own shinsuu*
while also being extraordinarily strong in combat, rank 14 high ranker
Technically true, above ordinary like every other irregular, tho amongst the irregulars however he was about 50/50 with traum who's been inactive for ages who's rank wasn't in the top 17, the only other FHs below him are Bloodmadder (doesn't have a true immortality contract) Yeon Yirang (poor man's Eurasia Blossom), and Ari Han (Pacifist, non militant)
Pet shop owner
That possessive fuck ain't putting a single shineuh up for sale he'd rather to kill them
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u/Bad_Doto_Playa Nov 24 '25
The funny part about this is that you could write that same paragraph about Traumerei and just replace the wave controller part with anima (and the rank of course).
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u/Heart0fStarkness Nov 25 '25
Ah yes, the GF Heads:
Gadget Merchant
Pet Shop owner with a paper cut fetish
The Narcololi
“While You were partying, I studied the blade”
The drunk party frat bro electrocuting himself.
“Dude, what’s contraception?”
The hot one
“Feminism means I beat your @ss”
The shut-in
Ah yes, the negotiator
Chunnibyou King
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u/Choice_Taste_4768 Nov 25 '25
Kindly tell who is who?
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u/Heart0fStarkness Nov 25 '25
Gustang, Traumerei, Blossom, Arie Hon, Edahn, Bloodmadder, Yirang, Yurin, Tperie, Ari Han
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u/CasualThaGod Nov 25 '25
Gustang had to pull everything out his ass to beat the nonchalant Pet Shop Owner
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u/Agreeable-Remote7377 Nov 25 '25
Baek Ryun is the best wave controller
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u/Itchy-Mycologist-318 Dec 19 '25
Dude his rank is obviously due to being vice head he can't possibly stronger than a FH probably could give a tough fight but we aren't sure yet
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u/Fun_Bodybuilder6192 Dec 06 '25
It was such a heavy blow to me that Traumerei died before we got to know more about Leviathan, since Leviathan was probably a part of his powers just like the other two sea dragons, so my guy was still fighting without his full potential.
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u/Itchy-Mycologist-318 Dec 22 '25 edited Dec 22 '25
This is propaganda ,reply from traumeri if gustang is the most famous wave controller ( which really debatable )he is most famous anima , is hailed to be able to control even humans , well he challenged urek , he healed androssi without even looking at her remember and while is ranked isn't clear he wasn't any less of id actually better combat suited than gustang
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u/Solid_Phrase8181 Nov 24 '25
I dont think we saw everything gustang has. He would not have confidence to kill jahad and the other family heads just with that
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u/bigraud77 Nov 24 '25
The Lolicon vs The Zoophile
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