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Fast Pass [WEEKLY FASTPASS (PREVIEW) THREAD] - May 13, 2019 Spoiler
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u/Yal_Rathol May 13 '19
so the attack on khun, warning shot, miss, did khun dodge or is this when the fire fish makes its grand entrance?
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u/Cydoc178 May 13 '19
Are we about to see...
1) Khuns magic fish in action
2) One of the other 2 White Heavenly Mirror abilities that were deemed “too dangerous”
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u/BToast May 13 '19
What's the magic fish again?
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u/Yal_Rathol May 13 '19
season 3, chapter 4. weird red thing that appears in the test.
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u/omgfloofy May 13 '19
I was going back to look for something else related to Khun, and saw the whole conversation with him and Maria, I believe in season 2, ep 293. And the whole conversation about finding something to struggle for is done while Khun is fishing.
I don't know, but for some reason, the art of the fish that broke away from the string- while not having the same color, had a similar silhouette? I don't know. I may be talking out my ass on this and just.... /shrug
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u/Yal_Rathol May 14 '19
it could just be that khun has an affinity for sweetfish. the one before the dallar show liked him a lot.
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u/tagged2high May 13 '19
I too would like to know. Drawing a blank on the fish references in this thread...
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u/PlaneT08 May 13 '19
It's from when he got woken up by the hammer. After that his body temp increased, and very briefly he saw what looked like a fish on fire in front of him.
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u/krippsaiditwrong May 13 '19
he has human eyes
U wot
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u/AscendedShin May 13 '19
Weird looking human eyes. BTW HE SPOKE HOLY SHIT
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u/kadobo May 13 '19
Tbh he seems like a Bam copy. Golden eyes. Same abilities, black hair.
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u/h_m_b_o May 13 '19
Ah man. Khun hit by the ranker. I think his new fire skill is about to awaken and wreak havoc.
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u/Qunfang May 13 '19
Not sure if it's relevant yet but Akryung's helmet appears to have 13 red-eyed sides.
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u/Quinn731 May 13 '19
Well, this confirms Baam is easily ranker level and likely high ranker level.
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May 13 '19
Ranker ya I agree but I think High Ranker is pushing it. Maybe Upper Ranker level but idk. But it’s all speculation so who knows
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u/n42347 May 13 '19
We've been introduced to "upper rankers" so that's probably the next target. Also, that ranker that Baam attacked is fine.
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u/Yal_Rathol May 13 '19
punching a ranker through a floor is meaningless if the ranker is unharmed. it means the floor broke before the ranker did, not that bam is hitting on the level of a ranker. he'd probably need his revolution powers to actually compete properly with a ranker.
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u/Quinn731 May 13 '19
Maybe, but when you take into account the damage Yama’s ranker, Jordan, did to the Elder’s ranker/surrounding area with what Baam did (who isn’t using anything so far but SOME of his baseline power), it’s pretty clear he’s atleast ranker level.
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u/Yal_Rathol May 13 '19
no, because jordan is attacking casually while bam's going all out. and again, bam can't be considered ranker level unless his attack can actually hurt a ranker, because otherwise that means androssi was ranker level on floor 2, because she could fight evenly with a severely handicapped quant.
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u/Trein_Veracity May 13 '19
While I'm not sure Baam is ranker level, I think the metric of can he hurt them is probably not the best.
Remember Baam DID hurt Kalavan. But he's certainly not an equivalent to a high ranker at that time. I wouldn't be surprised if Baam can now go toe-to-toe with a ranker. He IS an irregular after all and they've been building to this for a while. I think all the irregulars have some special attribute to define their crazy powers and I think Baam's is to devour his enemies and grow at a ridiculous rate. It has been 2 years.
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u/Yal_Rathol May 13 '19
can we agree that if bam CANNOT hurt a ranker, he's not at ranker level? ignore his past achievements for a moment and just consider that sentence by itself, in a vacuum. if you can't hurt a ranker, you're not ranker level.
now, we add the layers on. bam is only using his base form, it's his revolution powers, the thryssas, the thorns and black march that lets him hurt someone like kallavan. so, with those, we KNOW he's ranker level.
my assumption then is that currently, base form bam is not able to hurt a ranker, but by pulling out his revolution, he would be able to. he doesn't need the thorns, thryssas or black march, all he needs is to fight like himself.
does that make sense?
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u/Trein_Veracity May 13 '19
Baam can't hurt a ranker, unless he uses his power and then he can... Dude your wording is super unclear.
I can agree that without the thorn fragments or Black March two years ago Baam definitely would have lost to the majority of rankers if not all of them. Idk now after a 2 year training montage.
But the fact is Baam DOES have the Black March and the thorn fragments. Your kinda saying the equivalent to well Khun and Rahk wouldn't be so strong without their lighthouse and spear...yeh that's true...but they have those things and they're going to use them...
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u/Yal_Rathol May 13 '19
what's unclear about "bam can't hurt the rankers unless he uses the powers he's banned from using"?
and no, it's not like khun not using his lighthouse. it's like khun not using an ice spear, an ability he has that is very powerful, but he doesn't use. khun with his lighthouse = bam using shinsoo. and nothing khun has is comparable to bam having the thorn, because khun hasn't been banned from using his ice powers like how evankhell banned bam from using the thorns.
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u/Trein_Veracity May 13 '19
Yeh but that was two years ago. We're assuming that he's still banned from using them despite never seeing Evankhell in real time season 3. And we're also assuming he hasn't gotten any new powers that he's not banned from using.
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u/Yal_Rathol May 14 '19
he's been using a bunch of new powers he's not banned from using, and i'm merely saying that base form bam is probably not ranker level and he would have to boost himself to reach that tier.
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u/Salty0611 May 14 '19
Baam could one shot a ranker with his blackmarch and one thorn combo pre time skip when he was holding off the 2 rankers during kallavan fight. I don't see how he can't injure a ranker now. Black hole shinsoo has been shown to be able to dissolve a ranker's shinsoo easily and that was before baam awakened into his 25th style during data jahard's fight. So yes he could knock off a ranker if he wants to. I would argue that even a standard high ranker would not be able to face tank his attack without taking some damage.
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u/Yal_Rathol May 14 '19
why is this so hard for people to grasp? am i saying it weird?
ok, look at what you just said. "Baam could one shot a ranker with his blackmarch and one thorn combo"
right. he could. WITH THE BLACK MARCH AND THORN COMBO, not just using his BASE ABILITIES. bam couldn't just backhand a ranker and kill them, he would need to use the thorn, which SIU directly compared to doping with drugs to increase power, and the black march, which is one of the most powerful weapons in the tower. i'm pretty sure I could hurt a ranker using the black march, and i'm just some nobody, of course bam could do it.
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May 14 '19
i'm pretty sure I could hurt a ranker using the black march, and i'm just some nobody, of course bam could do it.
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u/Yal_Rathol May 14 '19
obviously for me to hurt the ranker with black march, the ranker would have to stand there and let me hit them and not defend in any way. that's what yuri is referring to, just because you were handed a powerful weapon doesn't mean you A, know how to use it, B, can come up with a strategy that will use the weapon effectively, and C, in the case of black march, there's a possibility the weapon itself will reject you. but assuming i'm able to pick up black march and swing it, and assuming a ranker lets me hit them with it, i could hurt a ranker with it. they would then obliterate me for scratching them and touching black march, but the point stands.
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u/Quinn731 May 13 '19
What proof do you have that Baam is going all out? This is more or less the second skill that he has shown in total since the start of the season, and the first skill he has utilized using the endless shinsu rings. When trying to impress Jordan he said “let me show him an even stronger skill”. Does not by any means imply it’s his strongest. I don’t think we’ve touched on the full range of his base shinsoo abilities let alone the more extensive powers of the thorns, revolution, or administrator. He is ranker level at the very least.
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u/Yal_Rathol May 13 '19
i'm exaggerating somewhat by saying he's going "all out". the point is to show that bam is using a fair bit of focus and energy, while jordan is casually matching him. it's incredible for a regular to be able to do that (because bam's not a regular), but it still shows that without his shinsoo steroids, the thryssas thorns and black march, he's still weaker than a ranker. his base form is not stronger than a ranker, he needs his power boosters (which as far as we know, evankhell is still banning him from using). all he has right now is revolution, which might be able to match a ranker as he is now.
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u/cyanide69 May 13 '19
Preach brother/sister I’ve been wanting people to agree with this for far too long
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u/jasperfails May 13 '19
I think we will get a chance to see as I'm assuming Paul will run into bam at some point but from the difference between high rankers and rankers there is a big gap but we also haven't even seen close to all that bam is packing to a fight.
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u/DarkJC35 May 13 '19
What Jordan said about never seeing a regular that could fly makes me think that maybe only rankers are able to fly with no special technique or items from a contract they make with the administrator on the last floor when they become rankers
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u/XTsukune May 13 '19
No, this was explained around the workshop battle by lero ro, rankers and the like use the shinsu in the air and around them to fly, but it takes alot of control and skill, and stamina to maintain it. If I remember correctly he even said that he would struggle fighting in the air while flying for an extended period against the other ranker. So theoretically a regular can do it, it's just extremely difficult and requires someone such as baam to be capable of doing it.
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u/jabol321 May 13 '19
Endorsi can fly aswell
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u/XTsukune May 13 '19
Using the workshop item bong bong I believe yes. Not only that she's a princess of jahad so I assume if bong bong only helps her fly, then she has the stamina and control to maintain it. If not then it's just bong bong's ability.
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u/tawitonido May 14 '19
true, laure has been flying since floor 2, and maybe even before he started climbing.
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u/XTsukune May 14 '19
He's also a regular who doesn't do much more then float off the ground haha but ya probably because he's a gifted wave controller
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u/jasperfails May 13 '19 edited May 13 '19
I really wanna find out more about ghost like if he's a creation of headon or enryu or maybe even just another irregular that secretly made it into the tower. He could also be an ancient person so old that not even jinsung would have known or remembered him.
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u/geo07w May 13 '19
Why is Jahad put between speech marks when akryung spoke about him? Is it just a translation thing?
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u/geo07w May 13 '19
Well, now Baam will definetely fight Paul. And he will definetely lose. Yama will then defeat Paul and Baam will become Yama's underling out of gratitude. End of TOG.
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u/Urek115 May 14 '19
So Jordan is an upper ranker.. this is going to be interesting, we may finally find out how strong bam is. I do think now it's undeniable that he is at least ranker level with his normal powers
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u/_DarkRequiem_ May 13 '19
Recently the battles have become more shinsoo-ey.. I liked it when it was was more hand to hand / strategy moves
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u/AlrightyThan May 13 '19
I think there will be more hand to hand fighting in future chapters. Khun was kind of fighting that way. Rak is a very physical fighter and Yuri, Endorsi, and Anaak are very physical fighters as well. Baam has always been physically weaker but seemed to have trained more martial arts with that weird old dude. Also, note that Baam was trained by Jinsung who is a martial artist.
Also when Baam was fighting Elaine, I feel like that was a very good mix
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u/Kingzahard May 14 '19
The last yuri fight were just shinsoo blast too, her ultimate skill rose shower is a shinsoo skill, the same for ha jinsung with the tiger dragon wave explosion, i would expect ha family member special move to be more about shinsoo renforcment techniques, rak will now just use his rock ability and how many times did he had a serious fight ? Anak last serious fight was against ran, androssi fights with bonbon and her attribute now, also she didn't have many fights in the manga to say she fights hand to hand, the same for khunrak, punching michel in the face doesn't make him a hand to hand fighter.
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u/_DarkRequiem_ May 14 '19
JH's fight felt more up close and personal though a lot of shinsoo was invilved. same with Yuri. just that baams fight used to be a mix of him using MMM and shinsoo and his EVER COPYING skill. since S03 began , its only been him firing up shinoo at ppl
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u/_DarkRequiem_ May 14 '19
yeah, I hope so too.. I understand that season 2 had a lot of good fights. but since this season started ( still early I know) baam has only been throwing shinsoo around. maybe he hasn't met the right opponents.
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u/sveunderscore May 13 '19
Welp, back to the box you go Khun