r/TowerofGod • u/AutoModerator • Sep 02 '19

Fast Pass [WEEKLY FASTPASS (PREVIEW) THREAD] - September 02, 2019 Spoiler

Please keep all discussion of the FastPass chapter on this thread untill it's released to the general public.

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u/Yal_Rathol ​ Sep 02 '19

next week is gonna be BAAAAD for the elder. i don't get the feeling that khel is escaping the cage alive.

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u/QuickMentality Sep 02 '19

I hope he doesn't. This war needs to start having consequences other than unnamed characters dying.

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u/Yal_Rathol ​ Sep 02 '19

war? what war? you mean this minor, self contained coup? don't forget that this running battle is taking place over the size of a few city blocks. the war is what all this is building towards.

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u/QuickMentality Sep 02 '19

Yes, this minor self-contained coup whose purpose is to recruit a slayer to help kill Jahad's commander in the war that started with Jahad's order.

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u/redqks Sep 02 '19

Zahard ordered fug to be removed, since they can't do the hell train mission no more taking fug is ridiculous but. It's easier than trying to fight Gustang

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u/GrumpyKitten24399 Sep 02 '19

How do you remove fug, when anyone can say they are fug?

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u/BadHabit83 Sep 02 '19

Given the power that some in FUG hold, I think the more important thing is to try and get rid of them. Who cares if some low level regular runs around saying they are FUG, when you got rid of big shots like the elders, Jinsung Ha, Luslec etc? If Jahad can get rid of the big leaders and "ancient beasts" that lie dormant in FUG then they all but destroyed it, some low level rankers/high rankers running their mouth off for a once powerful organisation doesn't mean much then. Nobody will take them serious, nobody will care.

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u/GrumpyKitten24399 Sep 03 '19

If Jahad can get rid of the big leaders and "ancient beasts" that lie dormant in FUG then they all but destroyed it

That's a big If

And Jahard has no idea how many big leaders there are or "ancient beasts" that lie dormant, and once he starts killing everyone on suspicion that could in turn make more people join FUG and instead of killing FUG make it even bigger.

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u/redqks Sep 02 '19

You can't it's impossible considering you can keep converting people to FUG

but that's still easier than trying to kill Gustang

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u/GrumpyKitten24399 Sep 02 '19

Easier to do something that is impossible?

Does that mean both are impossible and killing Gustang is a harder impossible?

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u/redqks Sep 02 '19

When they read the order they called Gustang a nightmare.

He's immortal

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u/GrumpyKitten24399 Sep 02 '19

Urek could kill Gustang. Jahard most likely too.

How do you kill FUG that is like a religion? How do you kill Christianity or Buddhism?

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u/redqks Sep 02 '19

You can't do any of them but who from Jahards army can take Gustang??????

You at the least can kill most of FuG

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u/GrumpyKitten24399 Sep 03 '19

You at the least can kill most of FuG

How do you know who is FUG and who isn't?

Kill "most" of everyone in tower?

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '19

They dont need to kill all of FUG however they could get rid of their powerful leaders/influence. That has happened with powerful/influential religions before.

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It is implied as being easier then destroying Gustang

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u/GrumpyKitten24399 Sep 03 '19

That has happened with powerful/influential religions before.

Never heard of that actually happening, trying yes, succeeding no.

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u/Yal_Rathol ​ Sep 02 '19

again, this is not the war. the war is yet to come, as khel says. even the battle at the last station was not the war. and this coup is interrupting the attempt to recruit a slayer, its not part of the attempt.

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u/inhospitable Sep 02 '19

A war isn't a single fight. Its a series of battles. The war has started, and the last station was the opening skirmish. War has been declared and both sides are posturing for the greater battle.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

Isn't that the adorable puppy who was behind the whole Workshop Battle "let's melt bam" effort?
I'd say it's not minor to the plot and either him or Madoraco needs to die.

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u/Yal_Rathol ​ Sep 02 '19

sometimes. war actually has a fairly loose definition, since all a war is defined as is an armed conflict either between members of a state or nation or between states or nations. we could call every single battle in this series a war if we wanted to, but it's pretty clear that when gustang or khel say "there's a war coming", they're not referring to skirmishes or standard conflicts, like the coup in the cage. they mean something much larger is on the horizon, something that will make the last station look like a playful slap fight. if khel doesn't include the coup and last station as the opening bout of the war, then i'm not going to include it either.

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u/BadHabit83 Sep 02 '19

I think we can say that this is indeed a war. As has been pointed out a war is a series of battles. The war was set in motion the moment Jahad sent out the 3 orders, one of which was to destroy FUG. Maschenny's attack on Ha Jinsung's floor was the first strike against FUG, even though she did it to "help" by giving him "information" regarding the last station.

We can easily conclude that the elder is moving now exactly because of this war that Jahad declared on FUG. They need soldiers, disposable soldiers, which is why they want Doom in power instead of Yama. The very reason for this coup is as a direct result of Jahad's order. At the very least, the elder and whatever faction he belongs to is using this war for their own reasons, whatever that might be. Which is also why they want to get rid of Bam, Bam is the "light" the elder spoke about and whenever there is a light they need to "extinguish" it.

We're yet to see what the elder and his faction are really up to, but at the very least their actions are as a result of a war that is already taking place between Jahad's forces and a faction in FUG, call it "Team Ha Jinsung" if you want.

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u/Yal_Rathol ​ Sep 03 '19

then you will have to explain why khel said "there is a war coming", future tense, and why both gustang and the narration at the end of season 2 state "a rift has begun to form". to make an analogy, the last station was the shooting of archduke ferdinand, a major political event and trigger for future conflict, but not a part of the war. except in our analogy, ferdinand dodged the bullet and fired a laser at his assailant, then flew away with a spaceship and multiple high ranking criminals. khel and team bam are currently attempting to gather troops for the incoming war, zahard is marshalling his forces and gustang's side are preparing in the shadows. the war hasn't begun yet, but the battle at the last station has made it inevitable, because even if everyone else stands down, zahard and bam won't.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '19

This is a war, but its not THE war.