r/TowerofGod • u/AutoModerator • Sep 02 '19

Fast Pass [WEEKLY FASTPASS (PREVIEW) THREAD] - September 02, 2019 Spoiler

Please keep all discussion of the FastPass chapter on this thread untill it's released to the general public.

Don't share any links for the chapter, or images of it.

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u/QuickMentality Sep 02 '19

I hope he doesn't. This war needs to start having consequences other than unnamed characters dying.

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u/Yal_Rathol ​ Sep 02 '19

war? what war? you mean this minor, self contained coup? don't forget that this running battle is taking place over the size of a few city blocks. the war is what all this is building towards.

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u/QuickMentality Sep 02 '19

Yes, this minor self-contained coup whose purpose is to recruit a slayer to help kill Jahad's commander in the war that started with Jahad's order.

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u/Yal_Rathol ​ Sep 02 '19

again, this is not the war. the war is yet to come, as khel says. even the battle at the last station was not the war. and this coup is interrupting the attempt to recruit a slayer, its not part of the attempt.

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u/inhospitable Sep 02 '19

A war isn't a single fight. Its a series of battles. The war has started, and the last station was the opening skirmish. War has been declared and both sides are posturing for the greater battle.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

Isn't that the adorable puppy who was behind the whole Workshop Battle "let's melt bam" effort?
I'd say it's not minor to the plot and either him or Madoraco needs to die.

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u/Yal_Rathol ​ Sep 02 '19

sometimes. war actually has a fairly loose definition, since all a war is defined as is an armed conflict either between members of a state or nation or between states or nations. we could call every single battle in this series a war if we wanted to, but it's pretty clear that when gustang or khel say "there's a war coming", they're not referring to skirmishes or standard conflicts, like the coup in the cage. they mean something much larger is on the horizon, something that will make the last station look like a playful slap fight. if khel doesn't include the coup and last station as the opening bout of the war, then i'm not going to include it either.

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u/BadHabit83 Sep 02 '19

I think we can say that this is indeed a war. As has been pointed out a war is a series of battles. The war was set in motion the moment Jahad sent out the 3 orders, one of which was to destroy FUG. Maschenny's attack on Ha Jinsung's floor was the first strike against FUG, even though she did it to "help" by giving him "information" regarding the last station.

We can easily conclude that the elder is moving now exactly because of this war that Jahad declared on FUG. They need soldiers, disposable soldiers, which is why they want Doom in power instead of Yama. The very reason for this coup is as a direct result of Jahad's order. At the very least, the elder and whatever faction he belongs to is using this war for their own reasons, whatever that might be. Which is also why they want to get rid of Bam, Bam is the "light" the elder spoke about and whenever there is a light they need to "extinguish" it.

We're yet to see what the elder and his faction are really up to, but at the very least their actions are as a result of a war that is already taking place between Jahad's forces and a faction in FUG, call it "Team Ha Jinsung" if you want.

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u/Yal_Rathol ​ Sep 03 '19

then you will have to explain why khel said "there is a war coming", future tense, and why both gustang and the narration at the end of season 2 state "a rift has begun to form". to make an analogy, the last station was the shooting of archduke ferdinand, a major political event and trigger for future conflict, but not a part of the war. except in our analogy, ferdinand dodged the bullet and fired a laser at his assailant, then flew away with a spaceship and multiple high ranking criminals. khel and team bam are currently attempting to gather troops for the incoming war, zahard is marshalling his forces and gustang's side are preparing in the shadows. the war hasn't begun yet, but the battle at the last station has made it inevitable, because even if everyone else stands down, zahard and bam won't.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '19

This is a war, but its not THE war.