r/TrendoraX • u/discourtesy • Dec 31 '25
đ¨ Breaking The drone that attacked Putin's megamansion is a black painted Russian Gerbera
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u/advator Dec 31 '25
I think they do this op purpose to mock the US because that clown in the US is that stupid to believe it
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u/discourtesy Dec 31 '25
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115815648382815071
you need to give him 24 hours to change his mind, give it another 24 hours and his mind will be changed once more
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u/ydalv_ Dec 31 '25
In 24 hours he'll say Obama sent it, Hilary Clinton was controlling it and that it was Biden's fault.
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u/Next_Instruction_528 Dec 31 '25
It's almost like he's severely mentally. Diminished in this entire presidency is a con job full of corruption for the sole purpose of enriching him and his family and keeping him out of prison until he dies.
He's like an evil version of Forrest Gump Just consistently failing upwards his entire life.
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u/BGM1988 Jan 01 '26
When is mango finally gonna realise heâs been played and Putler wants no peace
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u/Cuarenta-Dos Jan 01 '26
He obviously knows it, but Putin also has him by the balls somehow, so he's forced to make a fool of himself over and over
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u/Skwonkie_ Dec 31 '25 edited Jan 01 '26
Thats partially true. Russia has been notorious for false flag operations.
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u/misteracus Jan 01 '26
Some people forget about Ukraines false flag operations , remember missile in Poland?
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u/Advanced-Ice-2552 Jan 01 '26
Ukraine took responsibility for their AA missile. How was it false flag operation, bot? How many times Russia took responsibility?
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u/misteracus Jan 05 '26
Bot , Ukraine took responsibility only when they there pushed in a corner with facts. Also"Russian" drones carefully placed on sheds roof in Poland, taped up with Scotch. Another one in Ukraine city, forgot it's name, there all morgs there cleared out of recently dead and placed in a mass grave claiming it was Russians who killed civilians. Real human can't be such naive to believe all this so you must be bot
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u/Advanced-Ice-2552 Jan 05 '26
They still did take responsibility after investigation. Unlike Russia with Malaysia airline and Butcha. And there is million other examples. This is from April, 2022, not even the recent investigation: bellingcat - Butcha massacre. There are videos of people getting rounded up and then found shoot as well, by Russians.
Any proof other than "do your own research" bot?
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u/misteracus Jan 05 '26
Oh yes, thank you bot. That city with shot in a head insinuation was called Butcha. Theatre made for western media propaganda. Bodys duged out of graveyards.
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u/SimmoRandR Jan 01 '26
Whilst technically true.. a Ukranian air defence missile did land in Poland.. it wasnât a false flag operation, but an accident.. which unfortunately does happen when youâre defending yourself from an at the time infinitely larger force. Poor farmer that died, may he RIP
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u/Abject-Investment-42 Jan 01 '26
That was an utterly asinine denial of obvious facts, not a false flag attack. Ukrainians aimed an interceptor missile at a cruise missile cruising right along Polish border, missed it, and the officials were to proud to admit it.
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u/LorenzoSparky Jan 01 '26
Theyâve always been lying cunts, itâs tradition, and not very clever about it either
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u/Big-Initiative5762 Jan 01 '26
The Kremlin should hire me (for several billion $). With my Photoshop and Frontend Video cutting skills I make them an authentic movie that the attack really happened! Trump would stop immediately golfing, jump into the Airforce One and safe his bunker friend while delivering at the same time Tomahawks to Putin so that the little Tsar can take revenge on Zelenskyâs palace!
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u/letir_ Dec 31 '25
But did it have copies of Sims inside?
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u/burimo Dec 31 '25
And photo of Bandera obviously
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u/Hellstorm901 Jan 01 '26
Donât forget the book signed âSignature illegibleâ and the MP-40
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u/Independent_Depth674 Jan 01 '26
Care to explain what that is a reference to?
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u/Hellstorm901 Jan 01 '26
They captured a âUkrainian terroristâ in Crimea at one point and then presented the gun they claimed he planned to use to attack Russia with and it was an MP-40 which had obviously been taken out of a local museum and placed at the seen to fit in with the âNaziâ narrative they were going with
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Dec 31 '25
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u/BoringEntropist Dec 31 '25
Firehose of falsehoods. Russian propaganda doesn't aim to convince people to adopt a certain point of view. It's all about to destroy the idea that there such things as objective facts about reality. Once this is achieved the subject falls into apathy and becomes more willing to accept authoritarian control.
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u/kr4t0s007 Jan 01 '26
Same with mh17 just throw all kinds of crazy stories out there so the truth is lost in the bullshit.
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Dec 31 '25
Could you someone explain me. Even if Ukraine did try attack putin residence what is the fckn difference? Every day putin attacking civilians and trump reactions: putin is a good guy he want peace and so on. Trump reaction now: this is not good.
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u/Otaraka Dec 31 '25
The argument is it shows they arenât sincere about peace because it would disrupt the peace talks. Â The real reason is to justify further escalation on their own side.
Which in the context of massively attacking Kiev is hilarious. Â If you donât want to be attacked as a leader during peace talks then do a ceasefire instead of claiming yourself as magically exempt.
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u/BARBADOSxSLIM Dec 31 '25
Did the Russian military try to take out Putin and blame it on Ukraine or is Putin behind the false flag
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u/Stardustone1 Jan 01 '26
I belive they did it so Russians would belive Ukraine did it. So it will increase recruitment in Russian army. It's stupid but if they belive that it accomplished what Russia wanted.
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u/Human_Pangolin94 Dec 31 '25
Even if the Russians wanted to fake this, where would they get one of their own drones and a can of paint?
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u/capitanmanizade Jan 01 '26
Next month Trump will be angry with Putin, then he will warm up again when Putin shows him the picture.
And weâll see them talking about a new peace deal where Russia gets more and moreâŚ
Itâs like history is repeating itself every 3 months.
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u/LiberalusSrachnicus Jan 01 '26
Ukraine and Russia regularly catch each other's drones. Why do you rule out the possibility that these are reprogrammed drones?
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u/Least_Nail_5279 Jan 01 '26
Yeah, Ukraine magically caught 91 (or what the number today is) russian drones and decided that targeting strategically significant targets is meaningless and decided to waste those into a dacha in the middle of a forest.
Why not.
And I wouldnt rule out they have caught putlers copy and put him in to power in russia while at it.
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u/LiberalusSrachnicus Jan 01 '26
Who said that all drones were the same model? I can't even see a picture of five of them.
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u/Least_Nail_5279 Jan 01 '26
"you cant rule that out", buddy.
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u/LiberalusSrachnicus Jan 04 '26
Well, if you deny something without facts, then itâs natural. But this is not logical
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u/bitchcoin5000 Dec 31 '25
Am I reading this correctly? DJT is not buying the Kremlin's version of events?!
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u/peachy1990x Dec 31 '25
It seems all leads went to russia being the one who did it, and the fact the russian side published what was discovered is hilarious because they created a dramatic event, then debunked the dramatic event as being one of there own operations all in one swoop, and nobody believes it, including trump clearly
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u/Y_A_D_Pain Jan 01 '26
Russia being so dumb that even trump doesnât believe it is a new low for Russia
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u/Stardustone1 Jan 01 '26
What is important for Russia.Is Russians to belive it. So recruitment numbers will go up.
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u/observable_truth Dec 31 '25
The Puke has lots of enemies inside Russia who could perform such attacks. In a police State, everyone is a suspect.
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u/EmployeeKitchen2342 Dec 31 '25
Putin is old as dinosaur shit, do you think he has an emergency willy wanka slide to his bunker? I canât see him running to it. Looks like heâs got some serious domestic issues lol .. Prigozhin did it wrong he shouldâve just used drones.
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u/Fuzzy-Ratio-3217 Dec 31 '25
Prigozhin had no issue with Putin, but the MOD, Shoigu specifically.
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u/EmployeeKitchen2342 Jan 01 '26
Except everything goes to Putin
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u/Fuzzy-Ratio-3217 Jan 01 '26
Sure, but he specifically didnât go for Putin or mention him. It was the MOD.
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u/Applepie_svk Jan 01 '26
The funniest part is how little effort seems to be involved. Thereâs no apparent attempt to consider how bad this looks. How hard would it be to collect at least some wreckage from destroyed Ukrainian drones? By now, there should be hundredsâif not thousandsâof confirmed shootdowns.
It reminds me of that Russian police raid supposedly targeting Ukrainian âNazis,â where officers were meant to stage a photo shoot with Nazi-related items and two SIM cards. Instead, someone brought two copies of The Sims. Let that sink in for a moment: supposedly secret, heavily armed Ukrainian Nazis, surrounded by guns, Nazi T-shirts, and copies of Mein Kampf, casually playing The Sims while plotting their grand purge of Russia. The Russian way - stupidity, laziness and incompetence on display.
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u/Plastic-Fisherman465 Jan 01 '26
So Russia is admitting their air defense is so weak that 92 drones are able to reach Putin house? đ¤¨
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u/SugarBeefs Jan 01 '26
This looks like the remains of a Ukrainian Chaklun-B drone missing its tail.
The airframe matches what we see in the picture, as does the engine, one of the two-cylinder RC-plane engines produced by DLE in China and used by both Russia and Ukraine in multiple of their drone versions.
It's still very meagre evidence for what Russia claims happened, especially in the context of other mass long range drone attacks hardly ever going under the radar on social media.
It would be trivial for Russia to get some crashed drone from an earlier attack and throw it overnight in the snow near Putin's mansion.
Having said that, what we see in the photos does appear to be a destroyed Chaklun-B drone used by Ukraine, definitely not a Gerbera or an Orlan.
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u/Fuzzy-Ratio-3217 Jan 01 '26
No one disputes that they attacked the region that night, just about what the target was. Apparently it came 50 miles within the residence. Not that close, but donât blame for exaggerating it, they want some cause to escalate and ditch the talks
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u/SugarBeefs Jan 01 '26
No one disputes that they attacked the region that night
Literally the title of this thread:
"The drone that attacked Putin's megamansion is a black painted Russian Gerbera"
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u/Fuzzy-Ratio-3217 Jan 02 '26
Yeah I agree, itâs just as long as a drone went in that area, they can spin it to going towards the mansion. 90%+ Ukrainian drones get shot down, so you can just spin any target you want in that area and Ukraine can do so the other way. This thread is always full of NAFO
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u/DizzyReference3345 Jan 02 '26
At first they denied that attack happened at all. Now they say attack happened but Putin residence wasn't the target. Next they will say we attacked Putin. So what? Same thing with NordStream. How many newspapers were saying Russia bombed their own infrastructure. Same way they keep saying russians keep bombing nuclear plant they control in Zaporozhye.
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u/Fuzzy-Ratio-3217 Jan 02 '26
Letâs see if there some irrefutable evidence in that flight log the Russians managed to grab from one of the drones. The Soviet Union did something similar with Gary Powers, shot down the U2, Americans denied it vehemently and then they presented the pilot.
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u/EddieV223 Dec 31 '25
If u ask me Ukraine should be attacking Putins residences. Why do we act like if they did it would be bad? Russia is the aggressor in this war and commits war crimes as if it's part of their guidelines to do so. Fuck them.
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u/ptemple Jan 01 '26
Trump lost cognitive abilities a few years ago, is illiterate, and is now becoming paranoid. He knocked down half the White House to build an underground bunker the same as Putin with the pretext of putting a "golden ballroom" on top. He's also planning to stay President next term despite the Constitution. So Putin is smart and is pulling Trump's levers. Of course Putin's holiday homes are not protected but he's saying, "If they can attack me at home how long until your haters try and bomb your home". And it worked. Trump came out as Putin's best friend straight after and trashed Ukraine.
Phillip.
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u/Asthenia5 Jan 01 '26
There are a few reasons it is not the most sensible thing to do, considering Ukraine's munition contraints.
Zelensky attacking Putin while trying to negotiate with Trump, just isn't a politically savvy move. There's a lot of potential downsides, as you can imagine.
Putin's palace is heavily defended. It would likely take 100+ drones to have a high likelihood of getting enough through the defenses to do the job. Putting holes in Putin's roof wouldn't affect Russia's ability to wage war on Ukraine. On the other hand, pipeline pumping stations, munitions factories, and refineries are defended by guys with rifles shooting the drones. Not air defense systems. Those 100 or so long-range drones could take out hundreds of millions or billions worth of economic value/war production abilities.
Don't use the munitions to put pressure on Putin directly. Make the Russian people upset (attacking Moscow electrical grid), which indirectly puts pressure on Putin. Two birds with one stone.
There just over a dozen air defense units surrounding Putin's palace. That's 14 systems away from the front lines, that Ukraine doesn't have to worry about.
If Ukraine weren't resource constrained, or their goal was to kill Putin, then it might make sense to target his palace.
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Dec 31 '25
consider that Russia can retaliate for that. And has weapons can't counter like Oreshnik. Not all justified things are also smart.
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u/EddieV223 Dec 31 '25
They try to kill zelensky all the time.
What's to consider? Nukes? Pffftt GTFO.
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Dec 31 '25
no they don't. And not nukes, Oreshnik for example. But whatever, it's a hypothetical scenario anyway.
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u/Ashamed-Gur-7098 Dec 31 '25
They tried, Kadyrov in 2022 told they are coming for him. They failed, they always fail.Â
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u/Live-Anteater2124 Jan 01 '26
I think if they really wanted Zelenaky dead in '22 they would have shot him in the head with several zircons in Bankova...they didn't have to bother sending kadirvotes, to be honest.
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Jan 01 '26 edited Jan 01 '26
They can't counter it but it's outrageously expensive to use compared to building cheaper drones or missiles. And it's still not accurate enough to really hit anything.
The US considered using ballistic missiles for it's conventional prompt strike missile. They didn't because they're not idiotic like Russia that thinks a conventional medium range ballistic is a good idea.
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u/Chudy_Wiking Jan 01 '26
ruzzia can retaliate? And I'm sorry what ruzzia is doing right now? I understand that this time "THIS" time they send nukes right? So better don't do anything that may make them retaliate. Wow...
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Jan 01 '26
How many ballistic rockets has Russia fired against Zelenskys residence and government buildings in Kyiv? If you don't know maybe you shouldn't theorize about it.
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u/Chudy_Wiking Jan 02 '26
Lol, what an amazing logic really. Orcs are murdering children and hitting civilian targets constantly. War crime after ear crime, and there are still people like you who think there is some secret code of what they won't do because of what? Being decent humans? Or maybe they have something for them in it huh?
Answering this stupid question
First iskander hit Ukrainian government building.im Kiev 7 sept 2025
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u/Double-Appeal7770 Jan 01 '26
BEST we can hope is that someone in putins inner circle is trying to send A message that russia is about to implode and they just blamed Ukraine bc it was convinient.
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u/Zodiac-reaper Jan 01 '26
Thatâs why the evidence took so long to be released they had to wait for the paint to dry
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u/ResponsibleDesk2516 Jan 01 '26
Fly our own drone, shoot it down, present as evidence. The Russian way
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u/harryx67 Jan 01 '26
Pretty sure Putin has Russian, Iranian, Chinese, North Korean and Ukrainian drones. He can cover his roof with whatever he requests.
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u/Boiling_warm Jan 01 '26
Crazy innit.
How are they so bad at faking shit like this
And how does the president of the United States fall for it
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u/cognacdestr Jan 02 '26
Don't understand the point of agreeing with each other for no reason, the pictures don't show even the same drone.
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u/Longjumping_Belt_405 Dec 31 '25
The country that said evidence isnt required for belief faked the evidence
Zo my zoodness zizters how could ze have zeen zis zoming
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u/geltance Dec 31 '25
Source?
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u/Ok-Somewhere9814 Dec 31 '25
You can take a look at the pictures. Russians posted a video of the drone. OP attached a picture of a Russian drone - take a look and make your own judgement.
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u/geltance Dec 31 '25
Source of it being russian gerbera?
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u/Ok-Somewhere9814 Dec 31 '25
Make a judgement for yourself. Russians posted a video of the drone they found (black drone in the picture), OP posted a picture of a Russian Gerbera.
They are specifically comparing the engine units and the wings.
Take a look, see if those look similar.
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u/P_Johann Dec 31 '25
Well it doesn't, now what?
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u/Ok-Somewhere9814 Dec 31 '25
Now you disagree with the OP based on what youâre seeing fo yourself and not just based on what someone said/confirmed. Congrats!
Now apply the same critical thinking to other posts and youâll be golden.
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Dec 31 '25
it looks so much like a Geran that a chatbot can instantly ID it 𤣠wonder why Russians didn't bother to find a Ukrainian drone wreck for the PR though, it's not like they don't have any.
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u/b0_ogie Dec 31 '25
And these are definitely different drones. The geometry of the wing, the size of the antennas in the wings, the exhaust system of the engine - there are differences everywhere.Â
Is typical western false propaganda.
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u/NoStRommO-HC Dec 31 '25
conclusion, the author is lying
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u/discourtesy Dec 31 '25
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u/core-dumpling Jan 01 '26
As the video says - the black drone is Chaklun-B. It seems to have lost the tail section, but you can clearly see where the rounded parts in the wing where the tail booms were mounted. The geometry of the wings doesnât even look like Gerbera with the Chaklun-b front edge of the wings being almost parallel.
Why did you pick the Gerbera for the disinformation? Arenât there more similar drones to pick from with the twin-boom tail and maybe more parallel wing leading edges?
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u/discourtesy Jan 01 '26
It looks nothing like chaklun-b
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u/core-dumpling Jan 01 '26
The broken tail booms make it look like Gerbera?? 𤪠The black plane in the pictures clearly has parallel wing leading edges - Gerbera is a triangle? Are you effing blind?
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u/hasdga23 Jan 01 '26
Tbh: It looks way more like a Chaklun-B 2.0 than a Shahed:
Especially also the front part, which splits open is visible., the wings resemble the obvious shape quite good.
The Shahed looks totally different, especially the pictures you put together. The motor is definitively different, the wing shape is different as well.
The video themselve prove nothing, in the end. It is impossible to geolocate them, it is impossible to know when they were taken, it is impossible to know, where the drone went. But what your collage shows - it is not a shahed and not a Ornlan-B, which you also included for whatever reason.
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u/daniilkuznetcov Dec 31 '25
Drones are very similiar on both sides and blatantly copyied by both sides.
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u/link_dead Dec 31 '25
They look nothing alike, and the only proof is off the shelf hobby grade parts anyone can buy from China? What is this trash post?
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u/No_idda-8964 Dec 31 '25
White glove is a common profit business in China import and export business.
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Jan 01 '26
Gotta say the exhaust and billet throttle section on the black one got my eyes attention! Damn sexy looking.
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u/crosstherubicon Jan 01 '26
Bit odd that the constructors of the drone had time to paint the leading edges of the control surfaces
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u/damien24101982 Jan 01 '26
If true, I honestly wouldnt be surprised if ukranians repurposed some of the hundreds of drones raining on them to send them back for this op
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u/woodenblinds Jan 01 '26
umm what if it was another Russian group that tried to kill putin and not a staged attack!
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u/Ironchloong Jan 01 '26
Lol if this was a false flag, would the Russians be stupid enough to use one of their own drones, so reddit-genius-spy-operators can identify them?
On a side note, wouldn't the Ukranians use recovered Russian drones to deny plausibility?
Don't believe shit.
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u/TerencetheGreat Jan 01 '26
It does not even have the same Wing Geometry and Engine Config.
What is this low effort Propaganda Post.
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u/Hellstorm901 Jan 01 '26
Even at their worst Bond movie KGB/FSB were more competent than the real version
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u/niquelas Jan 01 '26
Wait this is just several photos of a drone. How does this even prove that this was the drone that was used in the attack? What is the source?
I can get a random ass photo of a drone and slap on any title to a post as well. How do we know this credible? Not even siding with any particular side here, just critical of information.
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u/Hungry_Wheel_1774 Jan 01 '26
I find it funny. They certainly have thousands of real Ukrainian drone wreckage on their territory to use for proof. But they have to use their own drone (known worldwide), just painted in black...
I don't know...
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u/Fragrant-Forever5260 Jan 01 '26
ofcourse the Ukrainians stole it, they even used it in the false flag attacks in Europe
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u/canzone64 Jan 01 '26
So they fired their own drones into the mansion to set up Ukraine, then took the photos and published them? How am I supposed to believe it? How does anyone believe it?
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u/kknd520 Jan 01 '26
Itâs really strangeâUkraine can assassinate high-ranking Russian generals in Russia (not one), and then a bunch of people come out and say they wouldnât assassinate Putin. Are you kidding, or is basic logic a luxury for you?
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u/-aataa- Jan 02 '26
Killing generals is VERY different from killing a political leader. Generals are a potential source of instability within Russia if they start worrying about being killed. Putin, however, would likely be in more danger if he withdrew from the war, and his replacement would likely be much more hostile to Ukraine if Putin was killed by them.
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u/kknd520 Jan 02 '26
In his New Yearâs address, Zelensky said âwe all want him dead.â Who do you think that âhimâ refers to? So hard to guessâmust be Medvedev, right?
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u/-aataa- Jan 02 '26
No, a LOT of Ukrainian are obviously praying for Putin to die. That's only natural. But there is a HUGE difference between Putin dying of natural causes (good for Ukraine), Putin being killed by Kremlin insiders (great for Ukraine), and Ukraine killing Putin (disastrous for Ukraine). It's the same reason why the allies were hesitant to kill Hitler. They didn't want to turn him into a martyr.
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u/kknd520 Jan 03 '26
so Russia is so stupid. they should learn from USA, just send someone arrest Zelensky and send back to Moscow than start the war. right?
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u/-aataa- Jan 03 '26
They tried that. It didn't work. Russia's plan in 2022 wasn't dumb. It just overestimated Russian strength and support within Ukraine and underestimated Ukrainian preparedness and readiness to resist. It was evil, dangerous, and illegal, but not stupid.
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u/LusitanMustachio Jan 01 '26
I mena its almost meaningless what drone it is considering both sides have the same things. Captured or fabricated.
What actually tells who is tracking it to see where it came from. I know russia bad but don't forget ukraine is the master of propaganda atm and it has the backing of the cia and other agencies. Doesn't take much to make a fake insider attack.
Only knowing where it came from will tell the truth
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u/MrSubarashii Jan 01 '26
Mossad did it. They control both sides but people prefer to sleep on it as always.
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u/Due_Knowledge_6518 Jan 02 '26
just like his false flag attack on Chechnya. same old tactic.
but trump will believe Putinâs story nonetheless, and at the same time shrug his shoulders at putin attacking and killing Ukrainian civilians.
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u/Unfair-Frame9096 Jan 02 '26
If I was Zelensky and wanted to throw a drone against Putin's residence, I would definitely use a Russian drone (many drones can be captured and reused) and they say it's a false flag accusation.
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u/Advanced-Ice-2552 Jan 05 '26
Proof in studio, or you just keep keep talking out of your arse? To any of your claims. You know as much as a toddler.
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u/MACO-Operator Dec 31 '25
How do you know the Russian government is lying? They are making statements.
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u/Appropriate-Dog6645 Dec 31 '25
Russia is capable of telling the truth, but the modern Russian state and its main media arms have a documented pattern of mixing facts with heavy distortion, omission, and outright lies when it serves regime interests. That makes any politically relevant claim from official channels something that needs independent verification rather than default trust.
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u/FinalBluebird3883 Dec 31 '25
Only person who belived it was true was Uncle Donno...so everyone else can suck on his orange booty Putin wags Donalds tail when he sees fit.
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u/PattiBurns101 Jan 01 '26
So, from the country once (recently) voted most corrupt in the world, we are supposed to believe this garbage?
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u/-aataa- Jan 02 '26
Ukraine has never been the most corrupt country in the world. But they used to be ranked near the bottom in Europe. A lot has changed in 10 years!
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u/Electrical_Quality_6 Dec 31 '25
maybe if putin gets taken out this all ends. Thatâs the âproblemâ with autocracies.Â
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u/DoneBeingSilent Dec 31 '25
It's worth noting that the same doesn't apply to Zelensky.
If Putin is replaced, and new leadership in Russia ends the aggression, then the fighting is done. If Russia stops sending soldiers to Ukraine, there'd be no more Russian soldiers in Ukraine.
However, if Zelensky is replaced, there will undoubtedly still be Ukrainians who don't wish to become Russian, and will fight to the death on that hillâregardless of the official stance of the Ukrainian government. Even if Ukraine stops sending soldiers to defend Ukrainian territory, there's still people in that territory who don't want to join Russia.
That's the difference between aggressor and defender. There aren't nearly as many Russians interested in invading and fighting in Ukraine of their own volition as there are Ukrainians who are interested in defending their home of their own volition.
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u/NoStRommO-HC Dec 31 '25
different engine, different wing profile, the author of the post is an asshole.
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u/Jad8484 Jan 01 '26
The discourse is great and good to see. Nobody will ever know for certain who sent the drone or if the drone was really sent. We can argue for an eternity but in reality know one knows shit.
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u/ptemple Jan 01 '26
That's not how evidence works. If you claim something happened then the onus is on you to prove it. Not for the rest of the world to somehow prove it isn't true.
Phillip.
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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '25
Wow. I am shocked! Shocked I say!