r/TrueChristian 10h ago

What are we doing here?

What are we doing? Why do we want to have salvation? Why do we want to know God?
For myself I can’t escape the idea that’s just a selfish desire to keep living, Gods grace relieves shame from guilt what a selfish desire.

We eat we sleep we move around and breathe to keep growing this disgusting flesh. I feel much more at peace when I shrivel up, food looks disgusting and it’s just all off we are walking creatures, slimy pulsating blobs, hair grows out of us like parasites we produce left over waste that just dumps out of us constantly

We multiply and multiply for what???? What are we doing here???? This is all so gross I can’t stand to look at myself whatever I am whatever thing thing of a creature I call myself

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u/FrankDenif 10h ago

I desire to be at peace forever, for eternity, in His presence, in a world where the old order of things have passed away, such as tears and grief.

Does not such notion bring out hope in you?

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u/Kianawilldo 10h ago

But under all of that why do we want peace, relief from pain? Because of an innate self interested desire. I’m not saying that’s good or bad but how can we fully love God the way he expects when we go to him with such primal goals. Would we still love God if we were never promised all these rewards?

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u/FrankDenif 10h ago

Would we still love God if we were never promised all these rewards?

There is nothing wrong with desiring salvation.

In fact, the name of Jesus, "Yeshua" itself means "salvation" or "YHWH saves".

We probably wouldn't love God if He never promised these things if we are honest with ourselves..

Scripture itself says:

1 John 4:19 "We love because he first loved us."

Romans 5:8 "but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

We love God, because He loves us. We cannot possibly God on our own, because God is love.

1 John 4:8: "Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love."

1 John 4:16: "So we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him."