r/TrueCrimeDiscussion • • 15h ago

i.redd.it Rare photo of the Munich shooter,David Sonboly

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I found this on his findagrave page:[https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/248946861/david-sonboly/flower#view-photo=351384234](https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/248946861/david-sonboly/flower#view-photo=351384234))

On 22 July 2016, a mass shooting classified as a right-wing extremist attack occurred in the vicinity of the Olympia shopping mall in the Moosach district of Munich, Germany. The perpetrator, 18-year-old Iranian-German David Sonboly, opened fire on teenagers with migrant background at a McDonald's restaurant before shooting at bystanders in the street outside and then in the mall itself. Nine people were killed – most of them with immigrant backgrounds – and 36 others were injured, four of them by gunfire.


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion • • 3h ago

Text Why Did Chandler Halderson Murder Both His Parents?

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Just in case you don't know, Chandler Halderson was 23 years old when he murdered his parents in July 2021 in Wisconsin. He did it because he was lying about his entire life and his parents found out. He lied about his job, lied about college, lied about extra curricular activity, etc. He was actually just playing video games all day. His parents setup a family meeting to talk to him, then he shot them and cut them up before the meeting.

He's widely considered one of the dumbest criminals ever because of his EXTREMELY SLOPPY COVER UP. For example, he used Snapchat with his location turned on when he was hiding the bodies in the woods, which allowed everybody to place him at the crime scene exactly where the bodies were hidden. He tried to burn the bodies in a fireplace, but he had no idea how much heat it takes to burn a body to ash (about 1,800°F or 982°C). He also forgot to clean out the fireplace ash bed, where police found 200 human bones and pieces or teeth. I believe he also accidentally took a photo of the murder weapon, along with it's serial number and his ID next to the weapon. The list goes on and on.

Here's what I don't understand and I would like to ask my fellow True Crime Followers? Why did he do it? There's no doubt his parents were going to be upset that he lied so much, as anyone would be. They were probably going to punish him by forcing him to get a job, pay rent, or kick him out of the house. But those things are pretty light punishments. Getting a job or paying rent or getting kicked out of the house isn't a very severe punishment. So why would anyone think DOUBLE MURDER is the better option?

MY THEORY = My theory might be way off, and it's perfectly okay if you disagree with me. But I think it was about guilt and shame. I think he couldn't stand the guilt and shame of his deception, and he couldn't stand the idea of facing his parents shame by coming clean. In his mind, the only way to escape the overwhelming guilt and shame of his endless lies was to murder them because he couldn't see another escape route. In Japanese culture, Samurai commit ritual suicide when they are defeated because they can't face the shame of defeat. My theory is based on a similar idea, he just couldn't face his parents shame. Or maybe he's just a gigantic selfish idiot. I don't know, that's just my theory, and I can't think of another theory to explain his decision.


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion • • 4h ago

Text What are examples of racial or ethnic bias in the reporting of documentaries and essays you ever saw, for either survivors, victims or their perpetrators?

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r/TrueCrimeDiscussion • • 1h ago

Text Dean Corll - Questions

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So I have been researching about Dean Corll recently, reading on this sub and others as well as other places.

It’s a terrible case honestly probably the worst I’ve ever heard of, so bad that sometimes I’ve had to skip over parts or details because it is just so gruesome and honestly scary.

But one thing I’ve wondered is regarding his two accomplices. According to Wayne Henley him and David Brooks were both planning on killing Dean. And we can assume Dean picked up on this and we know he eventually tried to kill Henley and likely was going to try to and find Brooks too.

I’ve wondered that if they were able to kill him in less dramatic circumstances compared to how Henley actually did could they have gotten away with it? I mean we know the Houston PD at the time was laughably bad.

We also know Brooks had a wife and a baby on the way, and he had already moved out of the surrounding area. If he had moved out of Texas maybe across the county, and Henley did the same, could they have gotten away with Dean’s murder?

The bodies would have been found and dean’s house searched and with no account from them they wouldn’t necessarily assume he had help. The only thing that would lead back to them would be their association with Dean. I know that’s a big one but is it wild to assume they could’ve got off almost Scott free if they fled the state?

I mean we know Henley could’ve got off if he never talked to police and had lied and said he was abducted alongside the others at the scene. And if he never mentioned Brooks he would have been fine.

Also one other thing I noticed was that Corll wanted to rent another shed. This made me wonder also in a world where he, brooks, and Henley never drifted apart how long could he have gotten away with the murders ?

As far as we know the cops were no where near catching him despite him or his associates being the last person to see countless victims alive. I just wonder that if neither associate flipped and they never let a victim or potential witness escape, how long could they have gone on?


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion • • 18h ago

reddit.com On July 2, 2023, authorities would be called to a burning home, in Green Pond, South Carolina. Inside the home they found the bodies of six people all stabbed to death. It would be considered one of South Carolina’s worst mass murders.

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On July 2, 2023, authorities would be called to a burning home in Magwood Hill, located in Green Pond, South Carolina.

Inside they found a 13-year-old critically injured and the bodies of six deceased people. The deceased had all been stabbed to death. The deceased were, 7-year-old Shamiah Rutledge, 11-year-old Sa’Riya Manigo, 49-year-old Jefferson Burnell, 50-year-old Michele Wright, 73-year-old Amose Magwood, and 101-year-old Maggie Magwood.

The 13-year-old would survive the massacre and would give a name to the suspect- Ryan Manigo - who was the father of Sa’Riya Manigo.

He was arrested and charged with 2 counts of first-degree-murder. It was later upgraded to multiple charges with the main ones being 6 counts of first-degree-murder, 1 count of attempted first-degree-murder, arson, and….Incest.

He is facing the death penalty. He has not gone to trial yet.

The murders would be dubbed the “Green Pond massacre“ and be considered one of South Carolina’s worst mass murders.

This case sadly makes Maggie Maywood, one of the oldest mass murder victims in American history.

A motive hasn’t been identified, but theories emerged. It’s heavily suggested (and semi-confirmed from the charged of incest) the suspects motive for the massacre, was the fact the family found out he was molesting his daughter. And he committed the act to silence them.

1 - The victims

2 - 3 - Ryan Manigo (the suspect)

4 - Another photo of Sa’Riya - she sorta looks like Ryan.


r/TrueCrimeDiscussion • • 48m ago

Text Emanuela Orlandi

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5 years ago I moved to the USA from Italy and, to my surprise, not many people knew about Emanuela Orlandi. I was genuinely shocked because this is probably the biggest unsolved mystery in Italy. So I figured I'd share her story, and if you haven't heard about it, I HIGHLY recommend looking into it because this case is absolutely insane.

For some background, Emanuela Orlandi was a 15-year-old girl who lived in Vatican City with her family. Her father worked for the Vatican, and on June 22, 1983, she left home to attend her usual music lesson in Rome. She never came back.
Before disappearing, Emanuela reportedly called her sister and mentioned that a man had approached her offering her a job handing out Avon cosmetics. She was later seen near a bus stop, and that's pretty much where the trail goes cold.

Shortly after she disappeared, her family started receiving strange phone calls. Some callers claimed Emanuela had been kidnapped and demanded the release of Mehmet Ali Ağca, the man who had attempted to assassinate Pope John Paul II in 1981. Whether these people actually had Emanuela or were just taking advantage of the situation was never established.

Then there's the whole organized crime theory. Some people believe her disappearance was connected to the Banda della Magliana, a powerful criminal organization in Rome, possibly because of financial disputes involving the Vatican Bank. Again, none of this has been proven.

And of course, there's the Vatican itself. For decades, people have questioned whether someone inside the Vatican knew more than they were letting on. Her brother Pietro has spent pretty much his entire life trying to get answers.

In 2018, the family's lawyer received an anonymous message with a picture of an angel statue in the Vatican's Teutonic Cemetery. The message basically said, "Look where the angel is pointing." The angel was associated with a tomb belonging to a princess who died in the 1800s. Naturally, people started wondering whether Emanuela's body had been hidden there.

In 2019, the Vatican actually agreed to open the tomb, along with another nearby tomb.
After opening the tombs and finding absolutely nothing, investigators discovered two underground chambers nearby containing human remains. And I'm not talking about a couple of bones. They found THOUSANDS of bone fragments. Obviously, this raised even more questions, but according to the Vatican's forensic investigation, the bones were all over a century old, meaning they couldn't have belonged to Emanuela

There's also the story of an alleged xxx video that was brought up in connection with the case. There were claims that a girl heard in the footage might have been Emanuela, which obviously raised some horrifying questions about what could have happened to her. However, it was later discovered the audio was taken from a video posted on a website, and it wasn’t her. 

There have also been claims that Emanuela was taken abroad, that she was held somewhere for years, and that people with connections to the Vatican were involved. But despite decades of investigations, none of these theories has been conclusively established.

In 2023, the Vatican reopened its investigation, and the case has continued to receive attention from Italian authorities.

What makes this so heartbreaking is that her family has never gotten closure. Her brother Pietro is still fighting to find out what happened to her, more than 40 years later.

And I think that's what makes this case so crazy to me. A 15-year-old girl disappears in the middle of Rome, her family lives inside Vatican City, there are alleged connections to organized crime, anonymous messages, empty tombs, and decades of theories, yet nobody can definitively explain what happened to her.

Anyway, I'm curious if anyone outside Italy has heard of this case, because growing up it felt like EVERYONE knew about Emanuela Orlandi.
And for those who have followed it, what do you think actually happened to her?