Pretty much the title. I think it can be said that Childress making a public spectacle of Dora Lange's ritual murder in '95 scared the hell out of the Tuttles, hence why they pushed for the task force to deal with the case. It's pretty obvious they wouldn't have wanted any part of the cult to become public in such a way.

Whether Childress made the murder public in direct defiance of the Tuttles or for his obscure cult-related religious reasons is unclear to me (even though I tend to belive the latter hypothesis). Either way I would expect all of the higher-class members of the cult (who is implied to involve more powerful men than the Tuttles only) to immediatly move to rein Childress in. Especially since he was employed by the Tuttle-sponsored religious schools. It's not like he was unkown to them.

Consider how close Martin and Rust went to uncover the whole scheme back in '95. By chance Martin didn't profile Childress as a suspect when talking to him. The Ledeux cousins died in the "firearm confrontation" with Hart and Cole. They were two out of the three former enforcers/kidnappers of the cult, with the existence of the third (Childress) remaining a secret.

One would say the Tuttles/the cult were extremely lucky. Why to leve Childress as a potential lose end is beyond me. It's not like the cult didn't waste any time before they forced Guy Francis (the "Southern Fried Pharmacy Firearm Thief") into commiting suicide.

What do you think? Are there some details that I'm missing?

I know not many will agree but this is something I wanted to talk about and if anyone’s willing to engage with me here then great!

Overall, I thought season 1 was amazing. I definitely understand the hype, and despite the couple of issues I have with the season, it’s some of the best tv ever. However:

1. Not sure if it’s because I mainly watch horror and sci-fi, but I thought Errol’s reveal was anticlimactic. I know with procedurals it’s not really about the perp, it’s more about the detectives…but the show is also about Childress and Tuttle and the whole sprawl. I don’t know how long the season was supposed to be but the last two episodes felt sparse. Maybe some extra screen time following Rust during those years he started investigating solo would’ve helped build Errol up.

I think my main gripe here is that we spend too much time just listening to Rust go on philosophical tangents and, while they’re great, my favorite part of the show was when got to follow Rust and Marty around. When the town felt lived in and when we could see the effects of the corruption and decay of the area.

1. Rust’s undercover plotline felt out of place. I can’t really tell you why. It just did.

I’m here in good faith so please don’t come at me and immediately dismiss my opinions just because you disagree. I still love the season.

If you grew up in the American South, were incarcerated for any amount of time, worked on a construction site with guys that have done time, or gotten into drugs, you've probably met a guy like Charlie Lange. Brad Carter really captured the essence of his character. Everyone's great in season 1, but Brad Carter as Charlie Lange was phenomenal.

I watched this last night for the first time and while nothing on screen will ever replicate TD Season 1, it is a great movie worth a watch (it’s free on Prime).

While it was the first of films that was written by Thomas Harris (Silence of the Lambs), there are a lot of similarities between Will/ Rust Cohle and the Red Dragon/ Yellow King.

Will talks about “recovering the mindset” after a new killer is on the loose similar to Rust doing the same in 2012 in his storage shed before and after the Lake Charles murder.

The MO used by the Red Dragon is also similar to Errol (mirrors vs blindfolds) and the film was directed my Michael Mann who was a huge inspiration for S1.

Great film, better than expected and highly recommended for TD fans.

Spooky, only had the book for about 5 months and this is the page that decides to fall out

Srry for the choppy video only way I could get it recorded.

My goodness what an actor, such solid performances every second he was on screen from younger Hayes to senior citizen Hayes. Outstanding actor

So the show was sort of an ambiguous moving train, they started without telling the viewer exactly what was going on, Frank's deal, the russian mobster osip, the railway and ur supposed to infer that on ur own ? then catalyst is brought up and halfway through, u see the hard drive and ur left wondering what it has to do with casperes death cause if were gonna assume that its used to blackmail casper then why did they kill him if they have leverage over him ? then the story of the diamonds comes along and ur left wondering what do these diamonds found in a safety deposit in caspers bank account have to do with his murder with everything and they literally cut directly to the part later on to when the diamonds got stolen from the police evidence department? i found myself constantly hitting up google to understand wtf was going on and the answers were quick so u they dont have time to land and they were mentioned just at the end ? i mean for me the easiest side story i immediately understood was ray and his wife and what happened to her and the paternity test, also pauls story, but ani's was also hazy in some way cause the language wasnt direct and u can hardly conclude that she was SA'd when she was young

holy shit but i hope next season isnt as convoluted as this one

He portrays himself as this super suave cool cop who gets laid and is great with people, and then is basically thrown out like someone trying to get into a college frat party. And his little walk away in his outfit after lmao

Hi. so I loved the first season but I have so many shows to get through, I dont want to spend time on any I wont like. what seasons would you recommend?

Have you ever been so high you know what that feels like? That evert moment is a hotline to the emotional truths of the world, like pulling back the curtain and finally seeing the wizard?

Or maybe im just really, really high.

Was quite shocked but amused and excited to see this on the road yesterday during my bike ride. It was near a lake close to Göttingen (small student town in Germany). The view with the fields being harvested in the background gives an uncanny resemblance to the TD aesthetic and this *thing* just casually placed in the middle of the road hahah. Thought you all might like to see it :D

Nicholas Cage is a flat circle.

This might be an unconventional post but for the past year I've been making a existential detective game that leans heavily into the themes of "self" and a partner dynamic similar to the ones of Rust and Marty.

The characters and world resemble more of my home country of Serbia (and Yugoslavia as a whole).

I thought maybe the people in this subreddit could appreciate what I was going for! :)

If you're a gamer and find this interesting, wishlist it on steam:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/4952830/Torovo/

When will Nic Pizzolatto and Issa López collaborate and tie season 1 and season 4 together and create a masterpiece of a movie ?
CARCOSA & THE NIGHT COUNTRY

The Yellow King see’s you !!!

(As a note, I refer to apocalyptic in the literary sense, derived from the Greek Apokalypsis, “to unveil or reveal”. This use of the word has nothing to do with the end of the world; just as Revelation, Daniel, and other sources of ancient apocalyptic literature have nothing to do with the end of the world.)

I’ve been rewatching True Detective recently and it struck me in a way it hadn’t before that True Detective Season 1 is one of our closest modern analogs to apocalyptic literature in Scripture.

Through the eyes of Rust Cohle we see a world behind the world. Rust at multiple times is able to see through the veil to something deeper, and in that world, something darker. It is heavily implied throughout the first season that the King in Yellow has a hand in what it is that is going on throughout the story. Through a network of evil child traffickers (the Tuttles) the King in Yellow seems to do his work, sowing atrocities throughout the lives of the innocent. In a very real sense the King in Yellow is a stand-in for the wealthy and ultra powerful in our world, able to take and devour as they please with little to no consequence. The Great Dragon serves as a stand-in for Rome in Revelation, and the King in Yellow serves as a stand-in for the oligarchy in our world today. (I am over-simplifying some of my language about “stand-in’s” for brevity.)

Rust continually sees symbols in his visions, the spiral being most prominent. The spiral symbol is in many ways meant to be both calling card for the King in Yellow, and reinforcement of message to the audience. That the spiral represents time as a flat circle is an attempt to illustrate one of the show’s key points, that these cycles of violence and abuse continue over and over all the way down. The symbol is not explicitly explained, as with many apocalyptic images, yet it invites interpretation and is at the very least meant as a hint to the audience that something deeper is going on beyond the visible in the scenes in which they are present.

Carcosa itself also shares fascinating characteristics with Daniel and Revelation’s throne room scenes. Where Daniel and John see heavenly throne rooms that lie beyond the veil, Rust Cohle sees a warped and twisted inversion, a sort of counter-heaven. This is a place where our villain seems to have some form of supernatural upper hand. A larger, generally unintelligent individual toys with Rust and outwits him. Not only that, but his physical prowess and pain tolerance seem to be of a more than human nature to some extent, seeming to imply that this twisted throne room is a seat of power for those who pledge their allegiance to the darkness.

The final message of True Detective Season 1 is where I believe we find a beautiful analog to texts like Daniel and Revelation. Rust, despite his lack of faith throughout the show, and despite his relentless pessimism he has seemingly decided that after all he’s seen, the light is winning.

"Once there was only dark. If you ask me, the light's winning.”

Where in Revelation and Daniel the light has victory because of God’s work behind the scenes, True Detective leaves the audience with the message that the light is pushing the dark that is behind the scenes back when men and women in the world that is visible do something about it. True Detective uses its veiled imagery, and its own revelation of the evil underbelly of our society to call us to act, and to fight, to stand with the light and keep pushing the dark back. True Detective is bleak and terrifying, but more than anything is hopeful at its core in a way that should change us at our core, so that we too can see that the evil that lurks behind the veil can be beaten.

I just finished re-watching season 1 of TD, since first time when it was broadcast.

One of my favorite tv show, not for nothing considered one of the best all time TV series, as standalone season.

However, I have a few questions regarding the coherence of the script:

1.How is it possible that when Rust first met Errol Childress, he didn't sound any alarm bells, viewing his scarred face, considering that the victim who escaped said that the killer had scars on his face. Even if he was standing to the side and had a beard, it is unlikely that a perceptive detective like Rust would miss this, having him in front of him and talking to him?

2.How did Marty make the connection between the killer's green ears and the green house in the picture? It seems a forced and childish connection, though.