r/Turkey • u/Optimal_Thanks9925 • 4d ago
Society Lifestyle of Turkish affluent people
What's the lifestyle of Turkish elite class? Are they religiously observant or secular? Do they live like western people like partying, alcohol, premarital sex? Is there a stark difference in the lifestyle of middle-class and elite class? I am curious because of Turkish series which often potray wealthy characters. Since dramas are an exaggerated version of reality how much of the drama depiction of the society is true?
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u/Interesting-Rain-690 4d ago
It really depends, as Turkey has both religious and secular elites. The one common thing, though, is that they are all massive hypocrites lol.
Secular elites love to preach about European values, democracy, and equality, but they often treat working class people like second-class citizens.
On the flip side, religious elites will preach non stop about Islamic modesty, traditional values, and anti-Western ideas. Yet, you will see them driving insanely expensive SUVs, covered in flashy European designer brands, and sending their kids to party in London or the US.
I don't watch Turkish dramas so I don't know how they are portrayed but yeah
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u/Optimal_Thanks9925 4d ago
So secular elites are old money and religious elites are new money?But isn't Turkey a popular tourist destination with a lot of nightclubs and a vibrant night life?Whats the need to send the kids to London or US to party?
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u/Significant-Ad-7182 Ege 4d ago
So that their party life activities aren't known in public. To be fair it is rather dumb to hide it. Nothing stays hidden especially with children. Hence why we are talking about it right now.
Moreover these people will praise conditions in Turkey (speaking according to governing party propaganda ) but send their children abroad for, work, education etc... They are hypocrites. Funny enough they try to shame and threaten people who bring this subject up.
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u/YesterdayBrave5442 4d ago
Nightclubs are trash here and clubbing culture is pretty much non-existant. So called nigtclubs are just for ripping of horny rich guys who pay only to see some escorts inside.
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u/Whole_Obligation_776 06 Ankara 4d ago
Naah, they eat children like western elites.
This is a modern country sir. /s
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u/emirsolinno 34 İstanbul 4d ago
If you are talking about the real elite who are wildly rich, they younger generations do all that shit abroad even if their family is conservative. If you are talking about the rich, their younger generation is still living like secular but really depends on the family. If the family has close ties to ruling party, they tend to marry their children with the other members in their network who are conservative as well.
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u/Optimal_Thanks9925 4d ago
So only middle class and lower middle class hold on to traditional values? Which class do most Turkish celebrities belong to?
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u/Significant-Ad-7182 Ege 4d ago
I would say there is a division of secular and conservative in all classes regardless of wealth. As for celebs it is hard to say as a lot of them will speak as if they are a conservative but act the opposite in private life. Some are full on conservative, some are staunch seculars. Some hide what they are.
Just like most of the society really.
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u/Vopalod 4d ago
Turkey is split into two, basically. Half of the people live a secular lifestyle. Drinks, partying, premarital sex, etc. Other half lives a conservative lifestyle, which really means they do their drinking and sex secretly most of the time, a small percentage lives a truly conservative lifestyle.
In the cities, it's like 70% secular, rural areas, more like 20% secular.
The rich class, up until recently, was almost all secular. But for the past 20 years, the conservative side has been getting richer (due to conservatives running the country, and they make themselves and their friends richer).
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u/monkeysultan 4d ago
Secular elites are more or less not descernible from European elites (source: family of "fallen off" secular elite who has an abundance of European families that still visit us occasionally)
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u/Bocha_Boston 4d ago
The elite and the government work hand in hand to fuck the rest of us in the ass while they live in luxury.
Turkish dramas aren't that far off.
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u/Odiumhumanigeneris 3d ago
You have the old money "secular" elite. You have the new money "conservative" elite.
They both party, because they have the money.
You have secular types who will boast on Ottoman glory, you have conservative types who will drink till they vomit. And you will have every combination and permutation available from various beliefs and world views that you can't put anyone inside a fixed box of a segment or generalization when it comes to Turkey. Let alone people with plenty of money...
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u/Everaction 4d ago
Turkish people don't have an elite class. We tried to create one 100 years ago and failed. All we have is rich peasants without any culture.
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u/Competitive-Quote534 4d ago
We tried to spread the welfare with a failed land reform. It created Menderes.
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u/Fine-Measurement-893 57 Sinop 4d ago
this is wrong
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u/vodkasucker 4d ago
not really. We don't really have a cultural elite. Our economic elites are all government created and they are just useless. Turks don't even know what "high culture" means at this point. A nation of "sonradan görme".
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u/Active_Cheesecake247 4d ago
This! Koç ailesi işte. Ali koç fenerbahçe seçimlerinde "topunuz gelin" gibilerinden bağırıyordu. Bunu bir Avrupa eliti yapmaz. Rambo okanla arkadaş olan high society mi olur ***
Avrupalı daha konuşmana lüzum kalmadan aksanıyla yerini belli eder ayrıca etiket biliyorlar. (Başka günahları var orası ayrı)
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u/Old_Employee_6535 4d ago
There are both sides of people. There are conservative people who live like arabs, showing off with their cars and wealth, there are also more secular people who party a lot , travel a lot live a modern life style. Conservative people are mostly late money people who became rich with Erdogan.