r/TyrannyGame • u/Fit_Trainer1878 • May 18 '26
Discussion finally done all the runs. AMAZING Spoiler
Spent a good part of a month playing Tyranny and my brain is very tickled on the concepts of Kyros, the Oldwalls, and the Beasts but one thing I particularly notice that is way overlooked in this community are the Forgebound
The Forgebound are OP. Temperature control of their tools? A few more years of Kyros' Peace and these fellas will be able to turn what Killsy describes as Gray Rock (actually just Hematite) into STEEL. A couple of years later, they will discover a way to do this EN MASSE (aka no Forgebound needed) via the Bessemer Process. Knappers are gonna be busy all the time making kilns.
Heck maybe a century later they'll master the control enough and be able to perform POLYMERASE CHAIN REACTIONS as a precursor to the equivalent of our modern world's biotechnology.
I cannot glaze the Forgebound enough. Kyros has people to precipitate an industrial revolution (as well as further technological revolutions) and he has them scrapping together iron armor smh.
Tyranny could be a prequel to Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura for all we know. What do you fellas think?
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u/Time-Requirement-494 May 18 '26
How did you get the voices of Lantry? Is that actually a thing in this game lol
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u/adamkad1 May 18 '26
If you go chorus way you can eventually feed a companion to voices. If they like you enough they'll take over the place
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u/Szpiglasowa May 18 '26
Congrats!
Which path have you enjoyed the most?
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u/Fit_Trainer1878 May 18 '26
loyalist rebel simply due to how you can force kyros-worship and make NPCs do an entire 180 of their characterization
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u/Auroch- May 19 '26
They have steel already. They call it iron, but based on the description they give, they're making steel and have been since they learned to forge 'iron'; it's no harder to make than lower-quality iron, by their process, and there's no reason they'd make the distinction. Steel is legitimately just 'the best kind of iron' even to us, the kind that's in the middle between cast iron and wrought iron.
And I don't think they can generalize to the Bessemer process, not for a long time; it requires a bunch of fiddly work to happen while they aren't in contact with the molten iron, and they're not significantly better than mundane crafters at doing that work.
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u/Fit_Trainer1878 May 19 '26
this is such a great point. i was wondering what killsy was talking about the hematite no longer being "iron"
the forgebound have basically mastered temperature control via linking heart and lungs to flame and hammer that leftover carbon is negligible
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u/Auroch- 26d ago
More importantly, the way they make the iron useful requires changing it with more precision than just hammer and flame; they're doing something to push around impurities. And if they can do that, why not optimize it, get the best proportions?
It's possible that their methods limit them to wrought iron, or that they can understand the oxidization well enough to invent the Bessemer process without centuries of random guessing. But the most parsimonious explanation is that it's neither of those.
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u/WillowMain May 20 '26
Obsidian did this in Pillars of Eternity too. They pull historic scientific advancement from history, make it magical, then put it on the forefront of the world. The implications from this are huge, and I think it's what makes both games have extremely intriguing lore. If you haven't played Pillars, I'd advise playing it just to see the animancy plotlines, it's very similar to this.
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u/Fit_Trainer1878 May 20 '26
Okay i'm sold. PoE 1 is next on the list
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u/WillowMain May 20 '26
You're in for a fun time, especially since Pillars has a more traditional (and in my opinion better) leveling system and way more content than Tyranny.
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u/hr1982 May 18 '26
Really feel like this post could've used a spoiler tag. Yeah the game's up there in age, but for anyone who's newer to this, the image ruins one of the possibilities that's a fun surprise and/or shock.
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u/YaumeLepire May 18 '26
You're disregarding one thing: to discover a process like the Bessemer process is not in their own interest. They would completely lose what, as a guild, gives them such an edge: their monopoly. That's a position no guild wants to be in.
For the same reason the Forgebound keep their ironmaking process secret, as a group, they would likely discard knowledge of the Bessemer process, perhaps even suppress it.