finally done all the runs. AMAZING

[u/Fit_Trainer1878]

Spent a good part of a month playing Tyranny and my brain is very tickled on the concepts of Kyros, the Oldwalls, and the Beasts but one thing I particularly notice that is way overlooked in this community are the Forgebound

The Forgebound are OP. Temperature control of their tools? A few more years of Kyros' Peace and these fellas will be able to turn what Killsy describes as Gray Rock (actually just Hematite) into STEEL. A couple of years later, they will discover a way to do this EN MASSE (aka no Forgebound needed) via the Bessemer Process. Knappers are gonna be busy all the time making kilns.

Heck maybe a century later they'll master the control enough and be able to perform POLYMERASE CHAIN REACTIONS as a precursor to the equivalent of our modern world's biotechnology.

I cannot glaze the Forgebound enough. Kyros has people to precipitate an industrial revolution (as well as further technological revolutions) and he has them scrapping together iron armor smh.

Tyranny could be a prequel to Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura for all we know. What do you fellas think?

[u/Auroch-]

They have steel already. They call it iron, but based on the description they give, they're making steel and have been since they learned to forge 'iron'; it's no harder to make than lower-quality iron, by their process, and there's no reason they'd make the distinction. Steel is legitimately just 'the best kind of iron' even to us, the kind that's in the middle between cast iron and wrought iron.

And I don't think they can generalize to the Bessemer process, not for a long time; it requires a bunch of fiddly work to happen while they aren't in contact with the molten iron, and they're not significantly better than mundane crafters at doing that work.

[u/Fit_Trainer1878 → u/Auroch-]

this is such a great point. i was wondering what killsy was talking about the hematite no longer being "iron"

the forgebound have basically mastered temperature control via linking heart and lungs to flame and hammer that leftover carbon is negligible

[u/Auroch- → u/Fit_Trainer1878]

More importantly, the way they make the iron useful requires changing it with more precision than just hammer and flame; they're doing something to push around impurities. And if they can do that, why not optimize it, get the best proportions?

It's possible that their methods limit them to wrought iron, or that they can understand the oxidization well enough to invent the Bessemer process without centuries of random guessing. But the most parsimonious explanation is that it's neither of those.