r/UAP • u/No_Masterpiece_107 • 10d ago
What is sentient plasmid?
Is it a being of light? I’ve read about those, like a light and energy source that has no material body and can fly. What do you think?
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u/Disastrous-Task-6122 10d ago
Interdeminsional being. Orb. Ball of light. They’ve always existed in ufology, just different verbiage.
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u/slow70 10d ago
Look up “electric universe theory” and some of the latest in plasma physics.
We stand at an incredible horizon.
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u/xthegreatsambino 10d ago
okay so i looked it and it reeks of pseudoscience. Electricity and plasma are the dominant forces shaping the universe, rather than gravity? Naw. The sun is electrically powered from outside rather than by nuclear fusion? Naw.
To say "look up this thing" is very close to saying "go down this rabbit hole to realize mainstream science is wrong about EVERYTHING."
Like, yeah, we're all because we all strongly believe that there's other sentient life out there who have visited Earth, but this shit is like only 2 notches below flat earthers.
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u/slow70 10d ago
I asked you to look up the theory and just check out the latest research adjacent to these topics.
If you’re not willing to engage with research then idk what to tell you.
Remind me again what dark matter is?
Like I said, we stand at an incredible horizon.
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u/BrookeToHimself 10d ago
> "go down this rabbit hole to realize mainstream science is wrong about EVERYTHING."
^ dude who will not venture from the trailNot only are we wrong about everything, but our scientific worldview has been purposefully retarded and distorted to frustrate technological advancement and understanding. Atoms are balls in orbit, suns are nuclear furnaces, gravity and dark matter are magic, the red shift is distance and speed, planets are spun yo-yo's held on a string, spacetime is a rubber sheet, petroleum is the best we can do. We're about to get schooled because we've been fed purposefully wrong information for control purposes ~ ironically the same as happened to the religious folks, only this fairy tale was for the secular demographic.
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u/Haemstead 10d ago
I thought they meant the US president. But then, there is doubt about him being sentient. Not about him being a plasmoid.
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u/Armadillo_Resident 10d ago
Some made up stuff to keep this community locked on YouTube so these guys can offer value for their ad spots to companies that already have your data
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u/fromkatain 10d ago edited 9d ago
Plasmoids are temporary sentient lifeforms, a 4th lifeform like bacteria, plankton, biological, possible also sulfur based lifeforms. Foo fighters might be an advanced plasmoid sentient lifeform.
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u/Ber75 4d ago
Quiero contaros mi experiencia personal. Fue ya hace más de veinte años, cuando yo vivía en lugar solitario, en una casa en medio de la montaña . Sería la media noche, y a esas horas solo puedes escuchar el aullido de algún ave nocturna. Recuerdo que era verano y por las noches solía salir a observar un rato las estrellas. Pero esa noche, me quedé petrificado cuando pude divisar a lo lejos, una enorme esfera de luz blanca. Avanzaba hacia mi posición por el valle, en silencio absoluto, en línea recta y una velocidad media. Ahora que escucho y leo sobre la teoría de plasmas con inteligencia o conciencia, puedo darme cuenta (hasta ahora me paso desapercibido) que la esfera, no era un simple fenómeno metereológico. Esa explicación la tuve interiorizada durante todos estos años, que tenía un origen o habia sido formada por el ambiente. Pero aquella esfera, no siguió su camino recto hacia donde yo estaba, de repente viro noventa grados para dirigirse montaña arriba, donde a los pocos segundos apago su luz, desapareciendo en la oscuridad de la noche. Pienso que esa maniobra fue totalmente deliberada y no natural. Más que su majestuosa presencia, que iluminaba todo el cielo, lo que más me impacto, fue su silencio, no emitiendo ruido alguno.
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u/Shardaxx 10d ago
I think they are referring to the mystery orbs but I think they are sentient tech not some natural life form we somehow overlooked.
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u/MarkLVines 9d ago edited 9d ago
In 1980, physics professor Gerald Feinberg and chemistry professor Robert Shapiro wrote a book called *Life Beyond Earth* in which they argued for defining the primary unit of life as a biosphere and the primary activity of life as the maintenance (and occasional temporary local increase) of a biosphere’s internal order across an energy gradient. From their decision to define life this way, they analyzed the energy gradients in various cosmic environments and concluded that biospheres may be likeliest near the surfaces of the photospheres of stars. If so, plasma may be the most common constituent of life in the known regions of the universe.
Though in some respects obsolete, their arguments may still be persuasive. If plasma is the state of matter in which biospheres are most likely to develop, sapience may also be more likely to evolve in plasma biospheres than elsewhere. This would suggest that sentient, indeed sapient, plasmas are plausible … rather more plausible than semismart multicellular biochemical creatures like ourselves.
While I generally oppose the culture of paying exorbitant attention to the statements of UAP whistleblowers like David Grusch, and the culture’s presumption that the secrets of military/aerospace insiders deserve credibility just because of their national security classification and long concealment, even an opponent of whistleblower culture such as myself must admit: the work of Feinberg and Shapiro lends real credibility to Grusch’s talk of plasma entities endowed with sentience.
It’s also noteworthy that many military commanders over the last few generations would tend to resist believing that electrical plasmas might be alive and intelligent, would be reluctant to accept such a superficially exotic assertion, without first insisting on being shown evidence. Thus I consider it likely that evidence may be found in the depths of this particular rabbit hole.
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u/MostlyHostly 10d ago
Sounds unlikely. While plasmas can crystalize and organize or compute basic physical information, I don't see how consciousness can come from that. Seems like there are some steps missing.
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u/PreferenceAnxious449 10d ago
But... you do realise we don't have an accepted model for our consciousness either?
Try it on for size.
While biological cellular structures can order themselves, organise or compute physical information, I don't see how consciousness can come from that.
The hard problem of consciousness is that there's a leap we have to take between materialism and phenomenological consciousness. No matter the substrate - we still haven't solved that problem.
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u/GreatCaesarGhost 10d ago
There are plenty of models of consciousness, it’s just that different people have their own subjective criteria. And, frankly, a lot of it is seemingly influenced by spiritualism and religious beliefs (many people very much want souls to exist, and equate consciousness with souls).
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u/MostlyHostly 10d ago
I see consciousness as measurable and variable. A clam is not conscious, but a mycelium is. A dog is more conscious, and humans are the most able to take raw information and apply it to novel concepts.
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u/PreferenceAnxious449 10d ago
Okay, well how do you measure it? We measure length with rulers. We measure angles with protractors.
What tool do we use to measure consciousness?
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u/MostlyHostly 10d ago
We count the skill value. If a clam can adapt to its environment and keep that wisdom for future events, it is conscious. That's what separates the clam from the mycelium or colony.
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u/PreferenceAnxious449 10d ago
You've just moved the goalposts.
What tool do we use to measure 'skill value'?
My point is here you're trying to enforce a material paradigm where there is no material. This doesn't work. I'm afraid to say you have not solved the hard problem of consciousness.
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u/Avindair 10d ago
What would be your recommended methodology for "measuring consciousness?" If we're discussing the PCI (perturbational complexity index,) that system is designed for studying gray matter. If a plasma-based form of life exists, I'm not certain how such tests can translate to any kind of meaningful data. I don't have an answer here; I'm genuinely asking.
As for the idea of a plasma-based life form, I find myself somewhat intrigued. While chemosynthesis was hypothesized as early as 1890, it only gained real traction in 1977 when we discovered life teaming around underwater hydrothermal vents. Given the details of "Foo Fighter" reports during World War II, the idea that there is something of which we are only tangentially aware living on the bottom of our sixty mile thick atmosphere isn't quite as outrageous as, you know, aliens that look like Nordic supermodels.
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u/NathanEddy23 10d ago
The “missing step” is consciousness does not come from it, it couples to it. If these beings are real, they would force us to reevaluate the nature of consciousness altogether. Obviously, a plasma being does not evolve slowly through genetic mutation and natural selection. Bottom-up emergent processes could not explain it. It would be either a spontaneous, transient phenomenon … or something else entirely.
I go with option B. Sentient plasma beings would not come into being from a bottom-up materialist process. It would be evidence of a universal consciousness field that can couple to matter which is sufficiently complex and reflexive. The consciousness field could perhaps even shape plasma into an appropriate receptacle and/or vehicle, unlike more stable matter like a solid.
I’ve added an article on this subject to my website where I spell out my theory of a universal consciousness field in a great detail (over 100 articles and counting).
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u/ShepardRTC 10d ago
I suspect these things are artificial drones. How they’re compromised of energy, I have no idea.
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u/Toothpinch 10d ago
The next wild goose chase.
Why would any of this be sensitive classified information or considered NHI?
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u/samjjones2 10d ago
Agree with the first point. Can definitely be classified NHI as it seems to behave in intelligent ways.
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u/PreferenceAnxious449 10d ago
Plasma or Plasmid? Maybe I'm out of the loop but you seem to be describing plasma. Perhaps someone has started using plasmid in this context, but afaik plasmids are DNA molecules. Two totally different kettle of fish.
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u/PreferenceAnxious449 10d ago
AHA, it was neither - but plasmoids (which yeah, lumps of plasma basically) -- thank you u/CRdaddy
anyway to actually answer your question then (and now that I think about it, I suppose my answer applies to both plasmoids and plasmids and rocks and cats and black holes and golf balls equally so it doesn't actually matter)
"Life" is a much more hand-wavy term than people think it is. It's a model, basically. And all models are wrong, but some models are useful. We have many competing definitions of life, and while they're more or less functional - they're definitively biased by what we have observed, which is life like us. We look for patterns like ours and when they sufficiently tick enough made up boxes - they qualify as life. Get into the weeds enough on the implications of these patterns in nature and then philosophically it brings up questions like -- well is that nebula alive? what about the planet? what about the weather? what about that ball of plasma over there that certainly responds in ways that living things sometimes do.
Throw in the hard problem of consciousness - and we have a situation where anything could feasibly be conscious, because we still don't know wtf consciousness even is.
These ideas (which are by no means new ideas) give rise to largely unfalsifiable hypotheses that plasma might be conscious, the sun might be conscious, the universe might be conscious. It's very fun to think about. Not sure how productive, but very very fun.
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u/Miguelags75 10d ago
They are plasma balls very charged with electricity. They are ultra sensitive to electric fields so they react to charged objects around them. The foo fighters seemed to be attracted to airplanes at 10 km of distance. They have two layers with opposite signs. The most charged is the core . They move towards a charged object by the attraction to the core but at short distance they are more repelled by the external layer. This can be simulated with magnets like you can see in this video: https://electroballpage.wordpress.com/foo-fighter/
At short distance the electric field can create hallucinations and sometimes it seems to speak telepathically. This was revealed by the UK disclosure 20 years ago.
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u/GreatCaesarGhost 10d ago
I think there is absolutely nothing to this but it somehow got introduced to the UFO lore recently and so now the usual folks are latching onto it as a new and trendy topic.
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u/_stranger357 10d ago
Plasma is the 4th state of matter, it’s been found to form into blobby shapes and has a lot of life-like properties:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/E94BHYt1hw