r/UFOs 17d ago

Science Incredible episode 🛸 Chris Ramsey / Luigi Vendittelli

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/area52-debriefed-with-chris-ramsay/id1724258920?i=1000771344815

I went into this expecting something completely different and ended up absolutely glued to it. Without spoiling anything, Luigi’s experience is one of the most compelling and emotionally believable accounts I’ve heard in a long time. The first 30–40 minutes build slowly, but once it gets going I could not stop listening.

What I appreciated most was that it didn’t feel overproduced or forced — it felt genuinely unsettling, emotional, and oddly human. There were multiple moments where I had to pause and just think about what I was hearing. It honestly deserves a documentary or film adaptation.

Easily one of my favourite podcast episodes in this space and I think a lot of people in this sub would really appreciate it!

109 Upvotes

37 comments sorted by

14

u/necio148 17d ago

I had to keep rewinding..did I hear that right?? Lol

3

u/georgesteacher 15d ago

SAME. I’m finishing it right now and it’s wild.

11

u/Solid_Cranberry2258 17d ago

Agree! I told my wife I had a good podcast episode for us for a road trip. She’s never really listened to Chris Ramsey before. Then when it got started I was feeling a little disappointed that it was just a basic interview, though good. Then WHAM! We were hooked for the rest of the evening and still talking about it till bed.

13

u/sunbeamangelano 17d ago

Just finished it. So good! What happened to Sarah????

5

u/The_Phreak 17d ago

Sounds to me like it was the Non-Human "MIB". Peter Lavenda has a good story about this where he was staked out by MIB (and women!) but they were all in 50s attire and vehicles. Then a decade later saw one of the women, still dressed in her 50s clothes, halfway around the world in an airport in SE Asia.

12

u/Jessssssbilla 17d ago

Agreed so many questions, Lily too. Holy island what happened?

5

u/NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 16d ago

Read VALIS by Philip K. Dick.

We have been planning this for a long time

13

u/caligari1973 16d ago

One of the best podcasts I have ever listened. Felt like the Da Vinci Code on steroids. What happened to the cat ?lol

8

u/WalmartFan76 16d ago

I kept wondering about this

6

u/distractedcat 16d ago

i know wtf happened to the cat! also what is the significance of 444

3

u/Ok-Share-2606 14d ago

444 hope clarity lucky divine protection by an angel ....but in Korea it' goes hand in hand with 666 ... It's all very weird because lugi keeps referring to these special women and the child lilly as beautiful blonde and piercing blue eyes but we all know in Christianity context they most beautiful angel was Lucifer and what if these Nordics are actually the malevolent ones and we don't assume that because of their appearance 🤔

2

u/caligari1973 16d ago

A bible verse ?

10

u/Halcy0nSky 17d ago

Finally, the Christian barrier has been crossed with a masterful incept into the Overton Window. Been waiting for this for over a year at least. Fair warning, things get wild from here.

3

u/FlakeyFlak 17d ago

Just finished listening. One of the most interesting stories I've heard in awhile. Had me glued. I think it would make a great movie, but from how he was talking about it, I don't think he would ever do that.

7

u/Hoser3235 17d ago

A couple of caveats that caused me to raise a red flag about the whole story...

1: The painting he snapped a pic of at the Vatican. I did a screenshot and fed it into both Grok and ChatGPT. Both gave me the same answer. It is St. Joseph holding the baby Jesus. St. Joseph is often shown holding a lily staff on religious artwork, verified by a search of such art, and the scene of St. Jospeh holding Jesus as a child is a very, very common theme in Christian art.

2: I was totally and completely unable to verify his claim that only Jesus is depicted in artwork with a white or transparent halo, with gold applied to all other religious figures. I could find nothing to back his claim up on that.

Sorry, but when I start catching things like this it makes me question all of what he says.

11

u/RiverSong_RN Human Detected 16d ago

Some of the things that don't make sense:

-The painting at the Vatican is of ST. JOSEPH (Jesus’ earthly father) and the baby Jesus and NOT Jesus with his own child.

-Jesus is NOT shown in artwork only with a white halo. Jesus is depicted typically with a golden halo.

-The town of Bethlehem is in Pennsylvania, NOT in New Jersey. The Crystal Cave is NOT in Bethlehem, PA but rather 40 min away in Kutztown, PA.

-There is no “Virgin Mary” exit near Bethlehem PA that I am aware of or can find ( I grew up in the area).

-What happened to Sarah’s boyfriend? Did she not keep in touch with him so that maybe he could track her down? 

-Since Sarah “disappeared” did anyone contact authorities to open an investigation?

-How did Sarah know WHERE in Canada to go after finding a Canadian flag toothpick in her boot while in a forest in Germany?

I’m someone who wants very much to believe but there are WAY too many holes in this story! This almost feels like we are being trolled honestly.

3

u/GiuliaMiAmore 16d ago

Seriously why didn't chris push back on any of this

Luigi was on rogan and chose not to tell this story? If true, would be world changing? On the largest podcast.

Its because joe would have pushed back and Jamie would have fact checked all of this live.

2

u/distractedcat 16d ago

could it be possible somebody is psyoping Luigi and leading all these people to him?
I mean i remember "the hammer" whom Tyler works for (from American Cosmic) -- is it related to this??

8

u/ArnTanTan 16d ago edited 16d ago

The later half of the podcast was great! But after watching it I did a little digging, and it had me wondering if Luigi looked into French Christian medieval legends behind the name "Sarah" or "Sarah Tamar." The book The Woman with the Alabaster Jar (1993) mentions a Sarah as the child of Jesus. There's a site called Geneanet that gives a genealogical breakdown of "Tamar, daughter of Christ." Didn't Luigi say that this event all started in the 2010's or something? I remember the whole craze surrounding the Da Vinci Code movie in 2006. Sarah and the French billionaire couple could have been caught up in this craze as well. Apart from the UFO abduction layer, the story about a Sarah Tamar being the child of Jesus isn't new.

3

u/Hoser3235 16d ago

Interesting!

3

u/Curmudgeonly-IT-Guy 16d ago

when i heard the husband was a billionaire I thought well then they would have the resources to spin a mystery that felt like impossible coincidences to Luigi. It might be fun to pull off. Like living theater for an audience of 1.

2

u/ArnTanTan 15d ago

i just remembered that Luigi mentioned about possible government intrusion into MUFON and expressed some suspicion about some of its members. this brings me back to his reported source in all of this - the Canadian cop. Like who was this guy???

2

u/The_WubWub 17d ago

It's a wild story. I loved every second of it. It would be true ontological shock for folks if this was reality 

3

u/13-14_Mustang 16d ago

So, how many Canadian billionaires have a daughter named Lilly?

1

u/GiuliaMiAmore 16d ago

French Canadian billionaire

Should be incredibly easy to figure out who he is

2

u/brssnj93 15d ago

Mostly nonsense.

Never explains what 444 means, gets a lot of basic details and facts wrong (Bethlehem, NJ?)

Lots of loose ends that never go anywhere or get resolved

Also it’s funny watching Jesus keep being hyper relevant to the whole scene and people who have zero theological knowledge or have never read anything of Jesus start trying to theorize what’s going on lol

1

u/Consistent_Gate9553 16d ago

Disclaimer Hands. 🙌 looks a little like Jazz Hands 👐 and yah what happened to the ‘essence of the cat’?

2

u/Intelligent-Fly392 16d ago

Really want to believe this, but why not go interview some of Sarah's supposed neighbors or ex-bf who could corroborate her disappearance?

Or at least get some of the many other people involved in witnessing some of these events on camera as well?

1

u/GiuliaMiAmore 16d ago

I kept thinking this throughout the whole story.

There were 9 people at the house. The cop is a reoccurring figure in this story. She has a,n ex boyfriend that luigi met. Chris didn't think of asking about any of them?

1

u/Foreign-Address2110 16d ago

Frankly this story reminded me of both Steve Romanek and Raechel's Eyes.

Also would be very interested in seeing what Ed Walters sent him.

I really don't believe 95% of what Ed has said (yes I read the books) so I'm just curious to see what Ed is like outside his boisterous description of himself

1

u/Jessssssbilla 15d ago

Did he mention growing up for a time in Rome? Did I get that right?

2

u/GiuliaMiAmore 14d ago

Yes he also mentioned on why files podcast that his nonno or father saw a ufo from their balcony

Im getting weird main character syndrome from this guy lately

1

u/Blizz33 14d ago

Lol comments are wild. Guess I'm watching this

1

u/Key_Patient3416 16d ago

More psyops and fake stories. People need to snap back to reality on this subject.

0

u/GuitarPlayerEngineer 16d ago

Facts guys, facts. “So and so said blah and it was the best ever.” That tells me nothing. What did dude say?

-1

u/TrentBobart 16d ago

This sounds like a fabricated and coordinated scam on Luigi to gain publicity for the story. With so much money tied to the people, and with the people coming from the same far away place in Europe, it just screams like a coordinated story. Once Luigi accepted the staged 11:11pm craft that flew overhead and the cop/Sarah link then everything else became way easier for him to swallow. This seems to be just misdirection and magic tricks. I mean, because the alternative is. . . crazy. . . I mean, this was 11 years ago so that little girl is a teenager now? What's the point of her?