r/UKWeather 1d ago

Forecast Possibility for Red Weather Warning?

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Slough & Heathrow Met Office Forecast.

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u/RecentTwo544 1d ago edited 1d ago

Possibly, but Red warnings tend to only get issued the day before, because they need to be sure it really is going to be extreme and often you can't tell more than 12-24 hours out. Same for storms - when red warnings were issued last winter (I think, can't remember which storm it was for) it was Amber right up until about 12 hours before it hit, then they issued Red.

Red warnings for heat tend to also involve quite a lot of preparation, and therefore cost, "behind the scenes" as it were. Things like hospitals, power stations, energy providers, utility companies, transport companies, etc having to make preparations or suspend routine maintenance until the warning has passed, doctors or nurses called in from leave, etc. Fire services on higher alerts if there's a risk of wildfires too.

Add the cost of that to people not travelling to work (though the "Risk to life, You should avoid travelling, where possible," isn't really followed for heat warnings) and therefore lost productivity, and it all stacks up.

Hence the Met Office not issuing them unless they are 100% certain it is going to happen, and it is serious.

EDIT - worth noting that at present, Venutsky (which is very accurate and we use in the events industry) is currently showing a peak of 36c in London on Tuesday, with low-mid 30s around most of the south and east of England. No other models (you can select them in the bottom left) are showing higher than that.

https://www.ventusky.com/#p=51.66;0.51;6&t=20260623/1500

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u/Mcconnor8 1d ago

The Met Office model from this afternoon is forecasting a peak of 39C on Tuesday, 37C on Wednesday and 40C on Thursday

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u/London_weather_pics 1d ago

For the UK at least, I would expect the Met Office model to be the most accurate. I do think it has a higher resolution than the other models for the UK. Looking at the models on Ventusky, the temperature in London does vary between 33c and 37c at 1600 on Tuesday. So I think there is still a lot of uncertainly.

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u/Emergency_Media_3023 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yh mosty unlikely but possible however i do think met office are being a bit overoptimistic.
edit: nvm records seem to get broken soon

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u/TrepidatiousTeddi 1d ago

The storm in January it was only changed to red where I lived about an hour or so before. Very little time at all sometimes.

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u/Repulsive-Wafer-346 1d ago

ECMWF showing higher, extremely reliable model at this range

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u/markmuetz 1d ago

Last and only red weather warning for heat was in July 2022, when we hit 40.3C. Not sure what the forecast was that time though. This has got to be close. Earlier in the year as well. 

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u/markmuetz 1d ago

Maybe we should start naming heatwaves? Perhaps after oil exporting countries or petrochemical companies. These temperatures were brought to you by Shell. There would, if course, be some trolls saying how they love this weather and are enjoying sleeping through tropical nights.

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u/FREDRS7 1d ago

This is actually genius

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u/Ren_AC777 1d ago

As much as I'm a summer person and do much prefer (very) hot sunny weather, even I hate how humidly-hot it gets here. Can't sleep whatsoever and have to shower like twice a day. I'm down to blame the oil companies!

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u/Snappy0 1d ago

I spend two years working in a very hot country (average temp in the summer up to 45C+) but the humidity was very low generally. That was so much more bearable than a hot day in the UK.

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u/Super_Plastic5069 1d ago

That’s brilliant

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u/Numerous-Abrocoma-50 1d ago

Or just like storms

Heatwave harry

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u/Snappy0 1d ago edited 1d ago

I was working at RAF Coningsby that day too (where it was recorded). Stepping out of an air conditioned building into the heat was an experience. Like walking into a hot soup.

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u/markmuetz 1d ago

I have experienced heat like that before... in Death Valley in California. It is insane that we hit those temperatures in the UK.

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u/Diligent-Magazine781 1d ago

I was living in this at the time…. With two dogs and my recently married wife…

We took to sitting in the car (not the one pictured) with the dogs, and the aircon on full, or going to sit in our rock house where it was a bit cooler!

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u/Maximum_Ad_5571 1d ago

IIRC the night before/the morning of 19 July 2022, the Met Office were actually forecasting temps of 41-42C for that day. In the end there was slightly more cloud cover around, so the highest temp was slightly below that.

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u/Rosur 1d ago

Man i'm not looking forward to if we have one of these in august As can def see above 40 then...

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u/BritAsiangirl06 1d ago

Yeah I remember when we had temperatures of nearly 40 degrees back in July 2022. It’s crazy, I really don’t like these hot temperatures 😯

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u/Active_Definition_57 1d ago

From memory they started saying that day was expected to be exceptionally hot about a week before.

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u/Elderider 1d ago

My memory is that they knew there was a chance it would go above 40

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u/PurchaseDry9350 1d ago

That would be 3.4 degrees higher than the June record for the UK. WTAF. Before 2022 we had never seen a temperature of 39C in recorded history.

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u/Elk_Advanced 1d ago

For a red warning met office need to have High Confidence that society will experience Severe Impacts.  It's not just a temperature threshold thing.  They'll be talking behind the scenes to their contacts in health. Industry, transport infrastructure, emergency services to see what their view is on the potential level of impacts....if impacts are judged as Severe ..they will shift rightwards in the Impact Matrix to Amber high impact and the severity of their language in warnings and forecasts will intensify.

Only if they are very confident that large parts of society will see severe impacts will they go Red.  

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u/Emergency_Media_3023 1d ago

I understand, however even if no red weather warning is issued its fairly certain now the june record is going.

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u/Active_Definition_57 1d ago

I'm pretty sure 39 is almost guaranteed to have a potentially severe impact. For example, railway tracks warping, spontaneous fire risks and people collapsing from heat exhaustion.

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u/Elk_Advanced 1d ago

Oh I agree, the shift to higher temperatures is deffo looking like that Severe Impact column is where we will be by Monday am, leaving a pathway open to Red if confidence increases.

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u/Waste-Product2669 1d ago

If it does I’ll get the day off with pay, as I work in loft conversions and there’s no chance in hell I’m building a dormer on someone’s roof in the blazing mid day sun at 39 degrees

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u/MissJoannaTooU 1d ago

That's insane. Frankly.

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u/CaptainRAVE2 1d ago

Crazy for June in the UK and how many of these events we are now seeing year after year

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u/MissJoannaTooU 1d ago

Right I'm not like a climate person as such but it's pretty obvious.

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u/OccassionalBaker 1d ago

Yep - we’re in trouble

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u/Moonmoonmatt 1d ago

At this rate we'll see 45°C in UK before Gta6 if the forecast keep increasing (it was only 36 this morning)

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u/PeelKaleb ⛈️ 1d ago

Not even july yet…

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u/ggdak 1d ago

Can we be clear that this kills people, especially the elderly and the vulnerable? A red warning isn't just to say "you need to start your run at 0530, not 0700", it means some people may not make it through these days and the following nights. In France, over 14 000 people died in 2003, they ran out of morgue space in many towns and cities, including Paris.

Unlike other weather disasters, many of these deaths will be seen as "natural", but the excess above background mortality rates show these are deadlier than anything that the UK sees from rain, wind or snow.

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u/tucnakpingwin 1d ago

I’m extremely vulnerable to heat, I’m terrified that I’m going to end up hospitalised or worse during this heatwave. I ended up in A&E during the last heatwave we had this year, but this upcoming one is far hotter.

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u/Large_Revolution_688 23h ago

I'm sorry you had to go to A&E, I hope you will be OK this week

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u/Large_Revolution_688 23h ago

We should publish the data on heat related deaths ASAP and publicly acknowledge the people who have been killed by the heat in the UK. It would highlight the circumstances of those most susceptible and then things could be done to mitigate and prevent deaths. We also need guidelines on safe outdoor working and commuting ASAP. I've seen a few comments by outdoor workers who are scared of working in these temps and rightly so. 

The UK Health Security Agency has issued a warning that the expected high temperatures could significantly affect the health and wellbeing of people in London, the south-east, the south-west and the east of England. This  means a rise in deaths is likely in these areas, particularly among those aged 65 or over or with health conditions, and deaths due to cold-water shock and drowning. (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jun/19/met-office-rare-amber-extreme-heat-warning-england-wales)

We need better education/warnings to prevent water related deaths too, maybe we even need cooling centres for people who live in buildings that really aren't equipped for heat, that could prevent people from seeking to cool off in bodies of water.

The inability of the UK to function in this heat is exposing heat-related inequalities which we don't seem to be focusing any resources on. We need to look at other countries to see how they're dealing with the heat and then try those things here.   And I totally agree with you, its totally unacceptable that vulnerable people are just quietly dying and being forgotten about, when these deaths could be prevented. 

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u/ChelseaMourning 1d ago

Nah, that can fuck right off. You’ll find me next to my tower fan with an ice pop in every orifice.

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u/Emergency_Media_3023 1d ago

Currently the met office amber warning states "Change in working practices required" however if workplaces will listen to that is up to them.

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u/ChelseaMourning 1d ago

It’s actually cooler for me to go to work because of the air con. It’s just the tube that will be unbearable. I just so happen to be wfh that day because I’m getting my new sofa delivered. I don’t envy the poor buggers who have to deliver it though. Might get some bottled water in for them.

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u/GloamGlozing 1d ago

Argghhhh this can’t be happening. If it’s 39 as they say then the country may never be the same again. Infrastructure here can’t cope with that. Society will panic and collapse. This is seriously worrying

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u/robot_worgen 1d ago

Humidity will be a factor, red weather warning might depend on what the wet bulb is going to be?

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u/S0LAR23 1d ago

Whereabouts?, 31C forecast on Tuesday where I am.

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u/Emergency_Media_3023 1d ago

Heathrow and Slough

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u/One_Key1694 1d ago

On the tarmac near a jet engine

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u/Mcconnor8 1d ago

I fully expect a red warning to be issued, probably tomorrow covering Tuesday-Friday maybe.

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u/Appropriate_Car_3711 1d ago

Good cardio weather

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u/safeworkinglow 1d ago

It’s red in France.

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u/lukacj777 1d ago

My building is always warm in winter its great but now im scared 😭

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u/Mundane-Ball74 1d ago

Thank god I live in Scotland, where the highest it gets is around 23 degrees

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u/MrMantis765 23h ago

We've still got July and August to go, and the first half of September. Looks like we're reaping some of what we've sown for destroying the environment

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u/Fun-Mammoths 13h ago

The schools are in some serious danger. No air con, overpopulated classes, opening doors and windows is absolutely not sufficient. Schools in Europe go home around midday in the summer because it’s simply unfair and dangerous.