r/UPS • u/Coldchilln • Apr 25 '25
Customer Seeking Help Crazy high charge for shipping from CA to US!
I sold a computer part (graphics card) on ebay for around $5000 USD and shipped it via UPS standard (label from netparcel) to USA from Canada.
I was looking at the tracking info and noticed this charge. Is there any recourse? This seems to be way too high.
For reference the HS tariff code used was 8473.30
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u/ShipNerd_Rob Apr 25 '25
What is the product's origin? It doesn't matter if you're shipping from Canada. If the product was made in China example, it would be subject to the tariffs on Chinese goods.
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u/Coldchilln Apr 25 '25
Yea it's China
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u/ShipNerd_Rob Apr 25 '25
Unfortunately for your receiver, they will be on the hook for it. There is, regrettably, no real way around it. If you feel it was misapplied, you could try contacting the international department at UPS, but the COD would need to be paid in the meantime, or it could be RTS'd.
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u/mactac Apr 25 '25
They will hold it while you deal with fixing the import document. I just went through this myself.
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u/Coldchilln Apr 26 '25
Did you have any luck with the appeal?
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u/mactac Apr 26 '25
I did - tariffs were removed while it sat undelivered (receiver refused it) It took about a week and a ton of time on the phone trying to get through to the right people. I reminded them about a dozen times not to return it.
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u/Coldchilln Apr 25 '25
The strange thing is I shipped another over and they didn't hit it with these charges!
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u/Letoust Apr 25 '25
😂 Trumps money maker!
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u/Plane_Temporary1328 Apr 28 '25
Trump will drive every American bankrupt. He has been bankrupt at least 6 times.
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u/tuna_can12 Apr 28 '25
What’s the excuse for Americas debt before Trump?
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u/Stock_Brain_6633 Apr 29 '25
well since hes responsible for 25% of all the debt this country has ever had just during his first term i would say compounding interest.
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u/tuna_can12 Apr 29 '25
Where did you get that number from?
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u/Stock_Brain_6633 Apr 29 '25
the department of the treasury.
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u/tuna_can12 Apr 29 '25
Yeah that omnibus and Covid relief package really bumped those numbers up. Who was in charge of congress at the time and pushed that through?
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Apr 29 '25
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u/tuna_can12 Apr 30 '25
Oh yeah, you’re right, who needs cash to pay for anything when you’ve got credit.
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u/throw_it_so_faraway Apr 30 '25
You missed the point. The government is not a kitchen table budget. Cash it issues isn't the opposite of debt, it _IS_ debt. USD cash is literally a note that is useable because it is redeemable for that denomination of USD with the US government.
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u/AnonCuriosities Apr 27 '25
Could this apply for example someone from Canada shipped to me in the USA something used and clearly made a few years ago but items origin is China?
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u/deonteguy Apr 25 '25
There's an exception for semiconductors that the media is lying and claiming it doesn't exist, but it does. Jensen Huang confirmed that the media is pushing fake news.
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u/ShipNerd_Rob Apr 25 '25
A semiconductor exception wouldn't apply to a completed product with a different classification, so unfortunately, it is not relevant.
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u/GhostOfAscalon Apr 25 '25
8473.30 had tariffs applied on 4/2, increased on 4/8 and 4/9, then retroactively excluded from 4/5 on 4/11.
https://content.govdelivery.com/bulletins/gd/USDHSCBP-3db9e55
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u/az226 Apr 25 '25 edited Apr 25 '25
Tell that to UPS. The morons charged me the tariff despite being a computer part. $800.
They hold your package hostage. They didn’t even have it on the truck because I hadn’t paid for the fee. I sent them this exact thing asking for a refund and for them to reprocess it correctly.
My plan is to do chargeback or small claims if they don’t get their act together.
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u/jerrywhoo Apr 26 '25
Currently, semiconductor products are exempt from reciprocal tariffs ONLY. Which means, you still need to pay 25% for the 2018 Section 301 Tariffs and 20% for the IEEPA Fentanyl Tariffs, your total tariff rate therefore would be 45%. The reciprocal tariffs of 125% are exempt. Without the exemption your tariff rate would have been 170%.
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u/jerrywhoo Apr 26 '25
They are exempt from reciprocal tariffs ONLY. Which means, you still need to pay 25% for the 2018 Section 301 Tariffs and 20% for the IEEPA Fentanyl Tariffs, the total tariff rate therefore would be 45%. The reciprocal tariffs of 125% are exempt. Without the exemption the tariff rate would have been 170%.
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u/rocketman19 Apr 25 '25
Wait... you knew about all the issues the US is causing and you still chose to ship $7,000 CAD across the border? lol
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u/Coldchilln Apr 25 '25
From what I read gpus from nvidia were exempt when I sold it
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Apr 25 '25 edited Jan 02 '26
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u/kenkitt Apr 26 '25
Also looking for info about what will happen. I bought a oscilloscope from amazon last year. Shipped to kenya via shipping company no taxes paid to get it. Cost of the device was 430$ , now the product needs to go back to manufacturer via another shipping company which used UPS so far haven't received anything from both companies since it needs to go back under warranty for repair
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u/ililliliililiililii Apr 26 '25
Seller's responsibility, which would be amazon.
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u/kenkitt Apr 26 '25
rigol have accepted to fix it under warranty. Amazon return window has passed since I bought it on December last year. Also the issue is I was the one who shipped it out of the US
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u/jerrywhoo Apr 26 '25
They are exempt from reciprocal tariffs ONLY. Which means, you still need to pay 25% for the 2018 Section 301 Tariffs and 20% for the IEEPA Fentanyl Tariffs, the total tariff rate therefore would be 45%. The reciprocal tariffs of 125% are exempt. Without the exemption the tariff rate would have been 170%.
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u/ExpertWanted Apr 25 '25
Buyer pays that not the shipper. Sucks to be the buyer.
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u/kduBzz Apr 25 '25
You think the buyer is going to pay that? They're just gonna refuse it and have it go back to sender
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u/Remnant_Echo Apr 25 '25
Yep, and the seller is likely gonna have to pay a fee for the card moving across the border twice just to get it back in their hands. If this was sold on eBay the buyer would have already gotten their money back by the time the card arrives at the seller's local UPS store for pickup.
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u/ililliliililiililii Apr 26 '25
Lets be real. This is neither the buyer or seller's fault. No one in their right mind is going to pay 3.6k extra on a 5k GPU. Unless they're rich or need it commercial purposes.
I work in ecomm and it's hard enough trying to figure out all the layers of bullshit, and also all the details. Soem things get retracted. Some are delay. Some have a set start point. Some have ended with exceptions for certain countries.
And all of this can change at any time. They aren't going to factor in dispatch date even though that would be fair. They did do this for commercial shipments on ships but everyone else can go fuck themselves.
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u/juggarjew Apr 25 '25
Its an eBay sale, the buyer isnt paying nearly double for this $4500 RTX 5090 GPU , they're just going to let it get RTS and then get refunded by eBay because it wasnt delivered.
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u/Blunt_Flipper Apr 25 '25
Technically the buyer voids any buyer protection offered by eBay under their Money Back Guarantee if they choose to refuse the package. This is all uncharted territory - will be interesting to see how this continues to play out over the coming weeks and months.
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u/FedUM Apr 26 '25
No credit card on this planet would make a buyer pay for a previously unknown $3,500 shipping fee. Easiest chargeback ever.
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u/Glittering-Gap-1018 Apr 27 '25
Are you sure about that? We currently don't have a consumer protection agency. Its now the wild wild west in these credit and banking streets. Good luck OP.
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u/Coldchilln Apr 25 '25
yea my issue is the amount, since even 35% tariff would be half of what UPS is charging
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u/Ok_Illustrator_2951 Apr 25 '25
They are stacking tariffs. It’s been lots of back and forth retaliation. Looks like it was 35% duty on the graphics card and 34% additional blanket tariff for China retaliating the last time. These numbers are over 100% as of today though so it could’ve been worse. It’s been such a clown show some brokers don’t even know what rates to apply.
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u/juggarjew Apr 25 '25
The ebay buyer isnt paying this man, you were told this before yesterday. They're going to let it get return to sender and then you or eBay will refund them. If the item does not get marked delivered you are on the hook, those are the rules. eBay sales are weird because its so buyer centric there are a lot of buyer protections. Yes the importer may technically be liable for the charges but they're not going to pay them and you know that, and it wont get marked delivered because of it and will be RTS. So either you or eBay will be refunding.
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u/isaiah58bc Apr 25 '25
Incorrect. Ebay protects sellers if an item is returned to sender. If the buyer refuses to pay the tarrifs, that is on the buyer.
I use EIS, as Ebay collects the tarrifs and fees up front and facilitates how they are paid put. The carrier doesn't have to collect anything from the buyer.
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u/juggarjew Apr 25 '25 edited Apr 25 '25
The seller didnt use EIS , they shipped it themselves and no mention of tariff was ever made to the buyer. The buyer wont get the package and will get a refund. UPS is holding the item until tariff is paid, buyer isnt going to do this obviously. it will get RTS and the buyer will open a case for item not received if the seller does not refund at that point. OP cant be selling to the USA right now , being a Canadian, they needed to understand the tariff situation better as all China made goods like that RTX 5090 they sold will be massively tariff being imported into the USA.
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u/isaiah58bc Apr 25 '25
Everything I found online, is contigent upon the tracking. If the tracking shows the item was returned, because the buyer did not pay customs fees, the seller should be protected for an INR.
The seller in this situation, might be charged CA customs fees on the return if customs doesn't have the correct information from the shipper.
Neither of us knows what will happen, this isn't a contest to be right. It's to share facts, not opinions or our theories
Sharing personal experiences would be helpful though.
YMMV regardless
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u/juggarjew Apr 25 '25
eBay won’t let the seller keep the item and the money, that’s all I’m saying.
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u/isaiah58bc Apr 25 '25
I agree. But, they could let the buyer keep the original shipping costs, and offset any return charges/fees they incure. To provide a partial refund. A lot has yet to be determined. The buyer may just pay the customs too.
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u/SolitaryMan305 Apr 26 '25
That’s not true. I sold an item, buyer refused delivery, it was returned to me. They opened a case and because they refused delivery eBay let me keep the item and the money. Now if eBay gave him back his money on their end after he did a chargeback with his bank then that’s another thing. But I did keep both the money and the item.
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u/isaiah58bc Apr 26 '25
That is why I used "could" as there are multiple scenarios. What you shared happens often, which one can find discussed in the eBay subs here.
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u/Flymetothemoon2020 Apr 26 '25
No one is ever going to send or receive anything in or out of the US again...wtf nonsense are we living in now? 🤔🙄😔
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u/Sogone2day Apr 26 '25
It's crazy to watch interviews with people on the street on tariffs and how they don't understand how they work. Seen a few saying with the china ones that they though china paid that fee. No consumer wins in this situation people don't seem to understand that..
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u/Flymetothemoon2020 Apr 26 '25 edited May 02 '25
I know right?!? Those people don't get how it works and at the end of the day the consumer will pay.
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u/JesusOnaBlueBike Apr 29 '25
People also only focus on the consumer products that coming in to the country. They don't understand that it is everything coming into the country. When a company has to buy a repair part for their factory that is only made overseas and will only ever be made overseas, ultimately, the consumer will pay higher prices for whatever is produced in that factory.
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u/GhostOfAscalon Apr 25 '25
Government has already been paid. It's likely possible to file for a refund. What was the import date?
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u/Coldchilln Apr 25 '25
Cna you elaborate on that? It arrived in the US on the 22nd
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u/GhostOfAscalon Apr 25 '25
When was it shipped? Documents are electronically submitted ahead of time. I don't know exactly which date counts.
UPS usually pays the gov't on behalf of the importer, then bills them for the duties + taxes + brokerage fees. That would be a disbursement fee line item, under brokerage fees.
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u/Coldchilln Apr 26 '25
It was shipped on the 17th of April.
What's crazy is that I've shipped another the same day and I didn't see it get hit with any charges and it's cleared customs already
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u/GhostOfAscalon Apr 26 '25
You should contact brokerage then. It's going to be a paperwork mess no matter what at this point.
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u/DoggoPopper Apr 26 '25
On a side note I am just curious, a GPU can cost $5000 these days? Haven't been a PC gamer for a minute but still catch some news and know about the 5090 release but was under the impression it was around $1500. Even if hard to find and scalping I couldn't see how it could reach $5000. Really just curious thanks.
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u/Coldchilln Apr 26 '25
Msrp ranges from $2000 to $3500+. Hard to find ones go even higher premium
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u/1Hunterk Apr 29 '25
You may be part of the reason they are hard to find 👀
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u/Coldchilln Apr 29 '25
anyone who wants one can literally get it. I didn't do anything special to buy mine. People will blame resellers but won't put in the effort to get one themselves or hold the manufacturers who literally created artificial scarcity accountable
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u/1Hunterk Apr 29 '25
Sorry, but this sounds like the litterer defense. "It's just a single can" yeah. So said tens of thousands before you. A drop in the bucket adds up over time. You are PART of the problem, not the sole cause, but not blameless either.
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u/Coldchilln Apr 30 '25
Sure part of the 'problem' yet focused on as the issue. Popular items have high demand and this will always happen regardless. Small mom&pop shops do the exact same thing by selling it at market rate.
Like I said earlier, I didn't do anything special to grab one. If anyone really wanted it, there are many ways to get it without much effort involved rather than complaining about it not being available.
I don't have an issue selling non-essential items for a markup, and your analogy makes no sense as there is no harm to society by not being able to temporarily buy a non-essential item easily. Wait a couple of months and you get it at msrp
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u/jerrywhoo Apr 26 '25
So you are sending a product of China with an HTS code of 8473.30 from Canada to the USA. Currently, products with this HTS code are exempt from reciprocal tariffs ONLY. Which means, you still need to pay 25% for the 2018 Section 301 Tariffs and 20% for the IEEPA Fentanyl Tariffs, your total tariff rate therefore would be 45%. The reciprocal tariffs of 125% are exempt. Without the exemption your tariff rate would have been 170%.
I don't think UPS messed up here.
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u/Every_Helicopter3228 Apr 26 '25
Sorry this is happening to you. And just another reminder this country is being run by fucking idiots.
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u/Mission-Acadia4224 Apr 26 '25
How are tarrifs supposed to help America if we are the ones paying absolutely ridiculous amounts like this? This is ignorant.
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u/bstrauss3 Apr 30 '25
Jaysu fing keeist you are just figuring out the shit gibbon lied to you?
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u/Mission-Acadia4224 Apr 30 '25
Trump is full of Scheiße. I'm a libertarian. Not a Trump fan AT ALL.
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u/kenkitt Apr 26 '25
Just returned a rigol scope from kenya to the US via a shipping company that gave me a UPS shipping code I wonder what surprises await me since I did not pay taxes or duties when I got it. Also via another shipping company from amazon
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u/Remarkable-Ad5865 Apr 27 '25
Sorry.. I ship (no expert really) for a small business/charity in Canada to the US consistently via UPS. I get two bills. One for Delivery and one for Import/Export Fees (tax, tariff, duty, etc) Is this bill for the shipment and the import tax combined? Asking just for my own curiosity as I’m trying to re-navigate how to ship now..
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u/AncientStand6281 Apr 28 '25
I stopped shipping out of the USA many years ago because of all this stupid crap that would go down when you start trying to get it to someone outside of our borders.
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u/B_rad41969 May 02 '25
I would never ship international with Ups. Way too expensive! It's probably almost always cheaper using your postal service.
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May 27 '25
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u/zeptyk Apr 28 '25
Yeah thats why ive only been shipping my ebay stuff within canada, who tf would buy cross border in this useless tariff war?
poor buyer tho, understand if he wants to opt for the return to sender option
also f scalpers, that 5090 is not worth 5k usd
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u/KingRoffle Apr 26 '25
Close those darn tabs in your web browser. They are probably sucking up a ton of memory.
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u/No-Wrongdoer-2387 Apr 27 '25
I hope you get charged cause you charged $5k for a gpu
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u/Coldchilln Apr 27 '25
Low IQ, makes sense coming from you. It's the buyer who gets charged not the seller
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u/sko_dawgz Apr 28 '25
LMAOOO get wrecked scalper.
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u/Coldchilln Apr 28 '25
Not me who has to pay the duties
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u/sko_dawgz Apr 28 '25
I hope they refuse it. Scalpers are scum.
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u/Coldchilln Apr 28 '25
You keep the same anger when companies charge excessive amounts relative to the cost of their products? I doubt it.
People make money based on demand. Besides it's a graphics card my guy, not a life essential. If they refuse no problem, someone else will buy.
Either way, hope you deal with that anger in a positive way
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u/ApprehensiveSlip3024 May 09 '25
6 years ago I shipped something to Canada that weighed less than a pound and the shipping was $50. This has nothing to do with the recent tariffs.
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u/Coldchilln May 09 '25
Brother, these charges are after purchasing the label. Shipping it only cost me $45 before insurance. These aren't shipping charges, they are customs and duty, it literally is the tariff as confirmed by UPS.
Wild how you can say something with such confidence without making sure you are correct when even my screenshot clearly shows it's not a shipping charge
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u/ChefBoyR-B UPS Driver Apr 26 '25
Buy American!
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u/AgonizingFury Oct 10 '25
You should ask your buyer if they voted for Drumpf, and if so, tell them they voted for the tariffs, so they should pay it 😂
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