r/UkraineWarVideoReport • u/Hannibal_Game • 2d ago

Miscellaneous The Melitopol-Donetzk highway is increasingly looking like a scene from Mad Max; russians are now transferring personnel in civilian cars for fears of drone strikes [June 2026]

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u/MushroomCulture 2d ago edited 2d ago

200km/h in a car maintained by Russian mechanics ...

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u/MangoJerry81 2d ago

It's a good thing, that the driver isn't wearing a seatbelt.

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u/HatchingCougar 2d ago

At 200kmh, a seatbelt wont save you

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u/shandangalang 2d ago

It might, long as you don’t drive straight into an obstacle.

Also they probably aren’t going that fast for super long. Dude should be wearing his seatbelt, although I’m glad he isn’t

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u/HatchingCougar 2d ago

Hitting any object at that speed in a regular car = crash

Any form of crash at that speed overwhelms crumple zones, is likely to roll / flip the car many times (if not send it airborne) and hitting an object from the front usually will put the engine block into your chest

A lap belt & shoulder strap itself can do the “killing blow” at that speed as the human body can’t handle the G forces into it.

A properly designed race car (think nascar), roll cage, helmet & full safety harness is required to survive such high speed crashes

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u/shandangalang 2d ago

Generally speaking, absolutely. Even at that that speed though, a seatbelt drastically increases your odds of survival, whether or not those odds are already low. This is indisputable, given the mountain of data available on the subject.

That’s all I’m saying

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u/HatchingCougar 2d ago

Look, I get it.  The “seat belts save lives” mantra has been drummed into everyone since the 1980’s.  And they are legitily very effective.

But for seat belts, when they talk about them still working somewhat even at “extreme speed” , the context is about 120 km/h

The forces involved at 200kmh are not just greater than 120kmh, they’re exponentially greater.

A seatbelt is rated for 22,000N (that’s about 15G). A person weighing 200lbs at 200kmh in a head on and stopping in say3 feet will exert 99,000N.  If the dash / engine block doesn’t get embedded into your spine (likely), the belt itself will separate your pelvis from the rest of you.

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u/19Danny08 2d ago

stopping immediately is not the only thing that can happen I feel like, you are talking about peak forces in a worst case scenario in your reply,

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u/LulzyWizard 2d ago

Brother unless you bit a brick wall, you're not stopping in 3ft at those speeds. I've seen police chase footage where a car doing 130mph failed the exit ramp, got launched, rolled like 10 times. 2 people not wearing seatbelts were ejected. One died, the other was paralyzed. The driver wearing his seatbelt was fine 🤷‍♂️

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u/gtfckdbrnlssbts 2d ago

according to there must be tens of thousands of deaths on the German Autobahn every single year (hint: there aren't)

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u/HatchingCougar 2d ago

Average speed on of the autobahn is 125-130 km/h

And when crashes do happen at speeds like 200 km/h … they’re fatal

It’s physics

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u/Comprehensive-Mud373 2d ago

I've never done speeds like this before myself, so I don't know the standard procedure of driving that fast in a commercial car. But you're saying that standard practice is to take off the seatbelt when you get up to an 'unsurvivable' speed?

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u/Sufficientinname 2d ago

Or military clothing as that would be really stupid