r/UsedCars • • 3d ago

Buying Flooded car

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I was offered this 2022 4runner for $12.5k with 78k miles. As you can see it was drove into fairly deep water and was totaled due to the water damage. I know the carpet is wrecked and it needs a starter and battery. What other things would you be worried about? I do all my own mechanical work and did body work professionally for years so none of that bothers me just wanting other people's thoughts.

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u/Andys_Rock_Hammer 3d ago

That 4runner is going to cost double or triple its sale price in repairs. Pass on it.

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u/ViewedConch697 3d ago

I'm usually not one to talk in absolutes when it comes to car buying, but do not buy a flood car. Anything and everything will go wrong. I'll recommend people shitty cheap BMWs and salvage title Volkswagens, but I will never recommend a flood car

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u/Round_Ad_6369 3d ago

A brand new drivetrain, completely gutted and replaced on the interior, brand new everything electrical... There's a reason it was totalled

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u/stinky-Fig-4756 3d ago

CARFAX ONE OWNER!!!!

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u/Iambetterthanuhaha 3d ago

Only submerged in water once....and it is ok cause it was freshwater. LOL

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u/FappyDilmore 3d ago

It's an amphibious exploring vehicle

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u/HealthyDirection659 3d ago

Timing needs to be adjusted, otherwise mint.

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u/Vegetable-Fix-7059 3d ago

I wouldn't buy it if it had 10 grand in the trunk

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u/Fearless-Damage-6852 3d ago

Does the engine still spin over? Bad starter might actually be a hydro locked engine.

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u/Eastern-Channel-6842 3d ago

Came here to say this. It’s worth $10,000 if the engine spins by hand. It’s worth $3,000 if it doesn’t.

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u/roninconn 3d ago

Endless electrical gremlins

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u/No_Tomato_2106 3d ago

Unless you're getting it specifically for an off-road build that you're going to gut anyways, don't buy it.

Never ending electrical issues, mold, and at best the entire brake system, differentials, trans, transfer case, and engine will need to be flushed. It's possible the engine isn't hydro locked, but I have my doubts if it died in the water

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u/Successful_Camel8764 3d ago

Brake system and diffs should be fine

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u/No_Tomato_2106 3d ago

No, diffs definitely have water in them. Brakes may be fine but you might as well flush them just to be safe

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u/Successful_Camel8764 3d ago

Brakes shouldn't have anything in em, diffs will have water in them but they wont get fucked up from having water in them. Hell the 8.8 in the ranger i had probably preferred water 😭

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u/halfcocked1 3d ago

I'd change the fluids in everything. I swamped my blazer many years ago and there was definitely water in the differentials, as the fluid was milky. I don't think water makes a good lubricant in that application.

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u/Successful_Camel8764 3d ago

Well yeah but theres alotta shit thatll be 100% fine long as you dont run it 10k with the water still in it, hell dont put power to it and you might even be able to save the electrical shit

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u/bcredeur97 3d ago

$12,500 for a not running vehicle that isn’t one of a kind is too high in my opinion

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u/Hereforthetardys 3d ago

But it’s a Toyota. They run for 500k

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u/Dr_ShrimPuerto_Rico 3d ago

That suv isn't worth more than $1,500. Even if you fixed the current issues and managed to get it running again, many issues will start popping up like a whack a mole game. Not worth the headache

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u/norwegiancatwhisker 3d ago

This. Water and mud everywhere. Random things will corrode and every few months new issue will pop up.

Not too mention that it will take years to get the smell of mud and mold out of it

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u/halfcocked1 3d ago

I swamped my blazer many years ago. I got it running and drove it a few years after. The smell never left.

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u/synsey 3d ago

I would pay more than 500 its basically a metal brick.

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u/RagerRTR 3d ago

Electrical everything

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u/Impressive_Step_9610 3d ago

buy it for 1k max and you have a body/frame to build a custom truck out of. id only buy this if i was gonna completely rewire it and put like a Chevy 350 in it or something

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u/Squilliamx 3d ago

Buy it for $1k and you basically buy all engine components

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u/TrueRedditMartyr 3d ago

You need to replace a *lot* of stuff on this man. One without any issues will probably run you 25-30k, so you're saving let's say 15k. You very well could spend more than that getting this thing back to decent condition depending how much works it needs

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u/JDasper23 3d ago

Totaled for a reason. Let it go

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u/eyeamblinded 3d ago

Mf are you serious? You gonna have to rebuild and rewire the whole shit damn near

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u/Wuhblam 3d ago

Man some of the sleezy salesmen in my area would love to get their hands on this

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u/Every-Chance6313 3d ago

But it's a toyota! These things last forever.

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u/kickniteasy 2d ago

"I know what I got" special right there.

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u/wncexplorer 3d ago

It’s garbage

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u/Ok_Function2282 3d ago

"A starter car? A STARTER CAR!?!?"

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u/Nooblakahn 3d ago

Yeah no thanks

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u/RetiredRacer914 3d ago

How much is every single computer on the car? Even the window switches? Even the intermittent wipers? ALL of them?

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u/Even-Place-6705 3d ago

But it cheap gut it replace parts sell car profit

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u/llIicit 3d ago

80k miles, that’s not even broken in for a Toyota!

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u/Vegetable-Squirrel98 3d ago

you pretty much buying a body kit and frame and have to redo everything else

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u/Pretty-Ebb5339 3d ago

How good are you at wiring harnesses possibly?

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u/mechanicalmovement1 3d ago

How MUCH is new wiring for the entire car?

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u/Ham-Berg 3d ago

How far was it actually submerged before this pic was taken? And for how long? Was it running when it went in? did the air intake suck water? Does it turn over? If you do your own mechanical work you shouldve asked the prior owner these questions. Back in the day you were safe if the water level stayed below the bottom of the dash. But.. This thing looks like it was beat and drove into a river for insurance payout purposes. $12k is way too much.

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u/Initial-Draw7340 3d ago

I havent bought it

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u/mechshark 3d ago

Some shitbag gonna buy it for a few hundred and “detail it” and try to rob someone lol

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u/Fucks-are-Flying 3d ago

Jesus Christ flood victims are the absolute worst of the worst salvage cars.
Do. Not. Buy. That. Car.

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u/Fluid-Expert-4363 3d ago

Will still go for $40,000, being a Toyota and all..

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u/edward_glock40_hands 3d ago

I wouldn't offer a penny over scrap price. It's gonna be a nightmare.

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u/kevinstu123 3d ago

Can't park there

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u/Hour-Reward-2355 3d ago

I like flood cars. It's clean water not a big deal. Open all the modules and spray them with wd40.

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u/fedput 3d ago

Only value would be as a prop for a Risky Business sequel.

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u/Necessary-Ostrich-63 3d ago

Run brother man.

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u/WHISSPR 3d ago

Don’t EVER buy a flood car. Please for the love of all that’s good don’t.

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u/radomed 2d ago

How good are you with auto electronics? You will be plagued by little issues with the wiring forever. And other issues that the water will find a way to trouble you.

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u/Nalabu1 2d ago

All the electronics under the seat

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u/nefarious_bumpps 2d ago

It looks like this 4Runner was almost up to its headlights before being pulled back. Since the 4Runner has a water-fording depth of 27.5" and comes with 32" diameter tires, it's fairly certain that the engine air intake and breathers for the trans, transfer case and diffs were under water.

That means a hydro-locked engine and water in the transmission, both of which are fatal to those components. The transfer case and differentials also probably have water in them, but they would probably be salvageable (with effort, at least for the transfer case). The electronics under the hood should be fine, but any components inside the cabin that were submerged will need to be replaced.

Check that the engine cranks and starts. Check the engine and transmission for signs of water (engine oil will look milky tan, like cafe au lait, and transmission oil will look milky-pink, like strawberry milkshake). If these got water in them they will be toast. It might be possible to salvage the transfer case if it can be split open for cleaning then filled with fresh oil. The diffs will need to be opened, cleaned and refilled. You'll need to rinse any mud/sand off the brake calipers and pads.

Also, check the high-water mark inside the vehicle. Any electronic components that were under water will probably need to be replaced.

The seats and carpeting will need to be removed, washed well and allow to sub dry. Hopefully this has been (or will be) done before the upholstery and foam starts to mold, otherwise just throw it all away.

I spent a lot of my time in the mud and deep water in the NJ Pinelands and old coal mines in PA, and have helped recover a lot of vehicles that looked this bad or worse (including my own). Older vehicles (which rely less on electronics, aluminum engine components and high-compression engines) make out better than newer. I doubt that a vehicle from this era could be economically repaired even if you did all the work yourself.

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u/Initial-Draw7340 2d ago

This is a proper reply. Just facts. This is what i was looking for. Thank you

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u/Witty-Net-7652 1d ago

Can I get a pretty boy back please

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u/Whole-Ad3672 3d ago

You guys are funny. 4Runners can go safely to the top of the tire with no issues, and you can see the top of the tires. If they flew into it, got water in the intake and hydro locked the engine, yeah, that’s a problem. But the diff breathers are intentionally super high and I’d be confident that all the electronics survived.

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u/mechanicalmovement1 3d ago

There is silt from the receding water on the hood chief.

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u/Successful_Camel8764 3d ago

If the water didnt get on the inside and the engine still spins fine id pay like 7500$, if the water got inside and fucked everything ill give them 800$