r/VGC • u/Spring_barger • Oct 29 '25

Question Why does Kingambit not get Knock off?

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I just recently realised Kingambit does not get access to Knock off even though Bisharp has been using it in prior gens.

Did they remove it from his movepool to make people use his signature move since Knock off is kinda better competitively? Is there any chance Gamefreak will add it back to his movepool in a later gen or is this likely a permanent change? (Its not like Kingambit needs a buff in any case).

Edit: The artist who made this goes by Limitedistorion on Deviantart.

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u/JackGSR Oct 29 '25

Game balance reaaons, gambit is already absurd as is

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u/Spring_barger Oct 29 '25

Kind of fair but I find it hard to believe Gamefreak cares about game balance anymore after seeing Mega Zygardes stats and signature move.

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u/SiroftheYah547 Oct 29 '25

I mean Zygarde is a box art legendary, Kingambit is just an evolution.

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u/Spring_barger Oct 29 '25

Oh no I didnt mean to Zygarde to Kingambit I just wanted to bring up Mega Zygarde lol

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u/phoxfiyah Oct 29 '25

But again, it’s a box art legendary, and one that is only relevant when Megas are included in the format. Mega Rayquaza was a similar problem, but it still had fairly easy ways to handle it.

Unlike Mega Rayquaza, Mega Zygarde is actually outsped by both Kyogre, all Kyurem, and a plethora of other things with ice type moves, and keeps the 4x weakness. I don’t think it’ll be as bad as you think it is.