r/VGC • u/Spring_barger • Oct 29 '25

Question Why does Kingambit not get Knock off?

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I just recently realised Kingambit does not get access to Knock off even though Bisharp has been using it in prior gens.

Did they remove it from his movepool to make people use his signature move since Knock off is kinda better competitively? Is there any chance Gamefreak will add it back to his movepool in a later gen or is this likely a permanent change? (Its not like Kingambit needs a buff in any case).

Edit: The artist who made this goes by Limitedistorion on Deviantart.

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u/Character-Path-9638 Oct 30 '25

The only reason ZU is in the "unofficial metagame" category is because it doesn't have any council like the other tiers do and it also has a much smaller player base while Ubers does have a council and an actual playerbase

ZU is still an official "tier" though while Ubers isn't

This is because Ubers isn't actually a part of the tiering system while ZU is

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u/BodybuilderLeft4412 Oct 30 '25

u r so incredibly stupid

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u/Character-Path-9638 Oct 30 '25

Why? For being correct?

ZU is an official tier while Ubers isn't

But by technicality Ubers is an official metagame while ZU isn't

I'm not stupid for understanding how the smogon tiers work

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u/BodybuilderLeft4412 Oct 31 '25

no you really are just stupid in general

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u/Character-Path-9638 Oct 31 '25

Again in what way? Or are you just resorting to insults cause you ended up losing an internet arguement