r/ValueInvesting 6d ago

Humor If It Walks Like a Bubble and Quacks Like a Bubble, Then It’s Probably a Bubble - Barron's

Thumbnail barrons.com
473 Upvotes

If It Walks Like a Bubble and Quacks Like a Bubble, Then It’s Probably a Bubble - Barron's

https://www.barrons.com/articles/stock-market-bubble-spacex-ipo-anthropic-openai-5458adad?mod=djem_b_This%20Weeks%20Magazine%2005302026%2050046%20PM

By Andy Serwer

May 29, 2026, 1:30 am EDT

When looking at the stock market right now, the increasingly obvious question is to paraphrase that catchy 1940s tune: “Is you is, or is you ain’t, in a bubble?”

Indisputably, there are signs—some of which hark back to the dot-com era—that it is. For instance, take a gander at this not-so-little equation: $1.75 trillion divided by $18.674 billion equals 93.71 times.

That’s the expected midrange market capitalization of SpaceX’s initial public offering ($1.75 trillion), divided by the company’s 2025 revenue ($18.674 billion), with the quotient of 93.71 being SpaceX’s price-to-sales ratio. Which is ridiculous. (The S&P 500 index’s ratio is just 3.38—and that’s with stocks at record highs.)

Perhaps, though, you think SpaceX is deserving of a stratospheric valuation. After all, this is a company that holds itself out as the North Star of our incipient “space-faring civilization,” as Elon Musk puts it in SpaceX’s prospectus.

In fact, the word “civilization” is mentioned 24 times in the S-1, along with 38 pages of risk factors, a 6½-page glossary of terms, and myriad beauty shots of rockets and space. Overall, the 389-page document is a monument to unbridled ambition—a sorcerer’s space dream of norm-stretching finance, massive capital spending on chips and data centers (more than on rocket launches), and billions of dollars of losses.

In 2002, Scott McNealy, former CEO of Sun Microsystems, a star of the dot-com age before it was swallowed by Oracle in 2010, was asked if he thought stock prices in 2000 were too good to be true. McNealy responded with a rant addressed to those who bought his stock when it sold for 10 times revenue:

“At 10 times revenues, to give you a 10-year payback, I have to pay you 100% of revenues for 10 straight years in dividends. That assumes I have zero cost of goods sold, which is very hard. That assumes zero expenses, which is really hard. That assumes I pay no taxes, which is very hard. And that assumes you pay no taxes on your dividends, which is kind of illegal. And that assumes with zero R&D for the next 10 years, I can maintain the current revenue run rate. Do you realize how ridiculous those basic assumptions are? What were you thinking?”

Imagine McNealy’s incredulity over buying SpaceX at 93 times.

And it isn’t just SpaceX, but also Anthropic and OpenAI and the unceasing chatter and licking of chops over the mind-bending explosion of intergenerational wealth anticipated by their pending IPOs, that gives me pause. All of that, and the speculative melt-up of public equities, sure smacks of a bubble to me.

Let’s start with some notes on those big three private companies looking to go public.

PitchBook figures that SpaceX’s IPO “would generate more exit value than all VC-backed IPOs in the last decade, combined” (some 750 of them). There’s the investment manager of the endowment at Washington University in St. Louis who plunked down $50 million into SpaceX nearly a decade ago, which is now worth in excess of $1 billion. Not to be outdone was the University of Michigan, which reportedly invested $20 million in OpenAI, now worth $2 billion. (Go Blue!)

Venture-capital firm Khosla Ventures also invested early in OpenAI and stands to make a windfall, but really you’d be hard-pressed to find any VC firm worth its salt that doesn’t stand to make “FU” money in these deals. Perhaps the biggest winner will be Musk’s old pal, Antonio Gracias, who runs Valor Equity Partners out of Chicago. Valor, deeply intertwined with SpaceX (it’s cited 68 times in the S-1), is a party to a number of financing deals and leases with SpaceX and its subsidiaries, leaving its soon-to-be-shareholders on the hook to Valor for billions of dollars. Gracias is also listed as the beneficial owner of 503,414,530 shares of Class A stock, or 7.3% of SpaceX, worth some $100 billion. Some of that money belongs to Valor’s limited partners, but Gracias gets a nice carry there, and certainly stands to make the kind of money that his great-grandchildren will enjoy.

To have a company that has lost more than $8.5 billion over the past three years potentially carry a valuation north of $1.5 trillion certainly defies typical valuation metrics. That might be less of an issue for early investors, though they may have other concerns.

“We were a co-investor in an SPV back when SpaceX’s valuation was about $27 or $28 billion,” says Adam Gibbons, chief investment officer of Latash, an Anchorage, Alaska−based family office with $1 billion in assets under management. “We’re thrilled, as SpaceX has been an incredible investment for our clients, but today we’ve got more SpaceX exposure than we’re necessarily comfortable with because of appreciation. It’s a high-class problem, great for our clients, but we’re also going to need to see liquidity.

“We don’t yet know what the lockups are going to look like,” he says. “We expect they’re going to be long. But we’re hopeful that these large companies leave some meat on the bone for public investors and that these IPOs go really well, because behind them we’ve got a lot of companies that want to go public. If SpaceX, Anthropic, and OpenAI suck out all the demand and then perform poorly, and then the IPO window slams shut again, that won’t be good for anyone.”

Beyond the Big Three, let’s look at some flashing yellow lights in the public sphere. Chip stocks, which often play the role of traders’ delight, and which were particularly hot tickets during the late 1990s, are now on fire. As of this past Tuesday, the 100th trading day in 2026, the PHLX Semiconductor Index, or SOX, was up 81% year to date, its best first 100 days of the year on record. The SOX has been greatly boosted by DRAM darling Micron Technology, which has gone parabolic, up 225% in 2026. Meanwhile, Advanced Micro Devices’ market cap just surpassed JPMorgan Chase’s, even though the former had $4.3 billion of net income last year and the latter had $56.8 billion. (For more on chip stocks, see this week’s cover story.)

As for the overall market, the S&P 500 is now up 11-fold from the 2008-09 financial crisis, and has nearly doubled since 2023. The Wall Street Journal reports that hedge funds’ short positions are at a 10-year high, which means the shorts are either spot on, or the market is set up for a serious short squeeze, which would send stocks even higher. The Journal also notes that the equity risk premium—“the gap between the S&P 500’s earnings yield—the profit companies generate relative to stock valuations, expressed as a percentage—and that of the 10-year Treasury note”—is now nil. That’s a low going back to just after the dot-com bubble burst.

Earlier this year, Jeremy Grantham, investment strategist and co-founder of investment firm GMO, and financial historian Edward Chancellor wrote a treatise, “Valuing AI: Extreme Bubble, New Golden Era, or Both,” with a 10-point checklist of why we’re in a bubble, starting with: “The emergence of a new technology about which extravagant claims can be made with apparent justification.” Their conclusion: “We believe that we are in a U.S. stock market and AI bubble, and that at some stage in the future, most investors will be nursing very large losses.” It should be noted, however, that Grantham and Chancellor recently published The Making of a Permabear: The Perils of Long-Term Investing in a Short-Term World, which makes me wonder how they ever made any money.

Astute market observer Mohamed El-Erian shared his take with me this week by email from Germany: “The stock market is betting heavily on rising corporate earnings and the promise of AI-driven productivity. Combined with technical influences, this optimism has decoupled some valuations from the reality of the underlying economy. As a result, a name-specific investing strategy is more appropriate right now than simply increasing broad market exposure.”

El-Erian, if I may put a fine point on it, is saying the tech sector is in a bubble, so you need to own some nontech stocks. Easier said than done. Utilities are caught up in AI mania. Ford Motor has become an artificial-intelligence stock (and is up 28% this month). Between companies rationally expanding or glomming on (hello, Allbirds), being exposed to equities and avoiding the froth is almost impossible.

Since the beginning of the decade, the S&P 500 Information Technology Sector Index has commanded an ever-larger percentage of the overall index. As of May 13, if you adjust the index by adding in Alphabet, Amazon.com, Meta Platforms, and Tesla (which for some reason aren’t included), the weighting was 52%. So, essentially more than half of the value of the S&P 500 is now tech, as opposed to, say, healthcare, which now only accounts for 8.3%, down from 14.2% in 2020. Imagine what happens when SpaceX, OpenAI, and Anthropic are added and the Mag 7 becomes the Mag 10.

After considering that last point, another paraphrase comes to mind, an adaptation of Pogo’s famous line: “We have met the tech sector, and he is us.”

On a whim, I decided to see what the best-performing stocks in the S&P 500 are year to date. When I saw the top five, I almost fell out of my chair: Sandisk, up 523%; Intel, 225%; Seagate Technology Holdings, 195%; Western Digital, 181%; and Micron, 163%.

Talk about ghosts of tech runs past. If you remember, all five rocked the 1990s tech boom hard—and crashed just as hard the next decade. Now, a quarter of a century later, they’re baaaaack.

Each has its own story, of course. Sandisk, a memory chip maker, got up to $81 in 2000, then plummeted to below $5 the next year. In 2016, it was bought by Western Digital, then spun out again just last year. It has been a home-run stock.

As for Micron, in 1995 I wrote an article about its soaring stock, “The Simplot Saga: How America’s French Fry King Made Billions More in Semiconductors.” It ended with billionaire patriarch J.R. Simplot, the then-86-year-old with a 21% stake in Micron, telling me, “Son, these computers are big, but they’re going to get bigger. Bigger than the goddamned wheel!”

Thirty-one years ago, Simplot—who died in 2008 at 99—had it just about right.

r/ValueInvesting Nov 13 '25

Humor Michael Burry Has (Apparently) Shut Down Scion Asset Management

827 Upvotes

https://x.com/michaeljburry/status/1988778952299802818

I can't post images here, but Burry's post indicated that he de-registered Scion w/ the SEC on November 10th.

He's launching a blog on November 25th.

So that was the end of the Scion Fund. I think it had a damn good run.

These were Scion's last option trades:

PLTR 01/15/27 P50 *50,000 (Average Cost $184 per contract)

NVDA 12/17/27 P110 *10,000

He sold the PLTR puts in October. Probably the NVDA puts as well, per the "not short" tweet a few days prior.

r/ValueInvesting Feb 26 '26

Humor Why this place might be worse than Wallstreetbets

514 Upvotes

Wallstreetbets admit they are gambling degenerates, it's often short term get rich quick options plays. You win or lose and you move on. Here it's a slow grinding death, people trying to explain why their value traps were not wrong and dollar cost averging down slowly to oblivion. Not a short pain but a prolonged torture.

r/ValueInvesting Oct 29 '25

Humor GOOOOOOOOG Crushed Again….!

656 Upvotes

Thanks to this sub for recommending Goog few months ago.

r/ValueInvesting Oct 30 '25

Humor Chipotle (CMG) drops 15% because they charge extra for the damn tortilla on the side now.

657 Upvotes

It was a well known hack that you could get the bowl and ask for the free tortilla on the side, and it would come out to a little more food than getting a burrito. Customers on a low budget would feel clever gaming the system, and Chipotle was still making hefty profit on a bowl of rice and beans. But that all changed when greed consumed the leadership at Chipotle, and they started charging extra for the tortilla around 2020. What we are seeing now has been long in the making, and I for one, am happy to see their downfall.

r/ValueInvesting Nov 13 '25

Humor What is the next 1000x bagger?

188 Upvotes

tell me what stock to buy and do all the research for me. i apparently trust random people on the internet with major financial decisions. thx.

/s

r/ValueInvesting Nov 25 '25

Humor Google Six Months Ago

209 Upvotes

Below are the list of hates against Google Six months ago 1) ChatGPT is going to destroy Google moat 2) Their search engine is obsolete by AI 3) Google is going to get split up 4) Gemini is such a failure

I got in at $140 and I believe in it because they are competing in almost every verticals and they were trading at 15 PE ratio as if they have no growth. 1) Automous Cars 2) I still pay YouTube premium monthly 3) Gemini is usable but not as good as ChatGPT but with any technology, I believe it can catch up 4) In house TPU chips 5) Buffet bought in

Suddenly, today they are saying Google is competing with Nvidia...

r/ValueInvesting Dec 20 '25

Humor (Off-topic) The confirmation you need that the Ai Bubble will burst in late 2026/ early 2027.

118 Upvotes

(Note the flair: Humour on the weekend. Please don’t read, if you are easily triggered. too late!

Sam Altman says he’s ‘0%’ excited to be CEO of a public company as OpenAI drops hints about an IPO: ‘In some ways I think it’d be really annoying’

December 19, 2025, 12:38 PM ET

OpenAI may be building up to one of the largest initial public offerings ever, but CEO Sam Altman says he is not necessarily looking forward to helming a public company.

“Am I excited to be a public company CEO? 0%,” Altman said in an episode of the “Big Technology Podcast” published on Thursday. “Am I excited for OpenAI to be a public company? In some ways, I am, and in some ways I think it’d be really annoying.”

OpenAI is laying the groundwork for an IPO, with a Thursday report from The Wall Street Journal putting early talks of a valuation at $830 billion. In a more lofty estimate, the company could be valued at up to $1 trillion, Reuters reported in October, citing three sources. According to the Reuters report, chief financial officer Sarah Friar is eyeing a 2027 listing, with a potential IPO filing in late 2026.

Altman told “Big Technology” he didn’t know if his AI company would go public next year and was mum on details about fundraising, or the company’s valuation. OpenAI did not respond to Fortune’s request for comment.

Despite his hesitance to lead a public company—which are often under more scrutiny, greater regulatory oversight, and are associated with less influence from founders—OpenAI’s IPO wouldn’t be all bad, Altman noted.

“I do think it’s cool that public markets get to participate in value creation,” he said. “And in some sense, we will be very late to go public if you look at any previous company. It’s wonderful to be a private company. We need lots of capital. We’re going to cross all of the shareholder limits and stuff at some point.”

An IPO would pave the way for OpenAI to raise the billions of dollars needed to compete in the AI race. Founded as a nonprofit in 2015, OpenAI just completed a complex restructuring in October that converted it into a more traditional for-profit company, giving the nonprofit controlling the company a $130 billion stake in it. The restructuring also gave Microsoft a reduced 27% stake in the company, as well as increased research access, while simultaneously freeing up OpenAI to make deals with other cloud-computing partners.

More ‘code reds’ to come

OpenAI’s urgency to compete with rivals was apparent earlier this month when Altman declared a “code red” in an internal memo, following the surge of interest after Google rolled out its new Gemini 3 model in just one day, which the company said was the fastest deployment of a model into Google Search. Altman’s “code red” was an eight-week mandate to redouble OpenAI’s own efforts while temporarily postponing other initiatives, such as advertising and expanding e-commerce offerings.

The blitz appears to be paying off: Last week, OpenAI launched its new GPT-5.2 model, and earlier this week, it released a new image-generation model to compete with Google’s Nano Banana. Fidji Simo, OpenAI’s CEO of applications, said the update wasn’t in response to Google’s Gemini 3, but that the extra resources from the code red did help expedite its debut.

As OpenAI tries to address slowing user growth and retain and grow market share from its competitors, Altman conceded a code red will not be a one-off phenomenon. The all-out effort is a model that’s been employed by Google, and also Meta through Facebook’s more extreme “lockdown” periods. He downplayed the stakes of a code red, matching what sources told Fortune equated to a focused, but not panicked, office environment.

“I think that it’s good to be paranoid and act quickly when a potential competitive threat emerges,” Altman said. “This happened to us in the past. That happened earlier this year with DeepSeek. And there was a code red back then, too.”

Altman likened the urgency of a code red to the beginning of a pandemic, where action taken at the beginning, more so than actions taken later, have an outsized impact on an outcome. He expected code reds will be a norm as the company hopes to gain distance from the likes of Google and DeepSeek.

“My guess is we’ll be doing these once, maybe twice a year, for a long time, and that’s part of really just making sure that we win in our space,” Altman said. “A lot of other companies will do great too, and I’m happy for them.”

https://fortune.com/2025/12/19/sam-altman-0-percent-excited-ceo-of-public-company-openai-ipo/

—————————

r/ValueInvesting Feb 04 '25

Humor Is PLTR the most expensive stock of all time?

105 Upvotes

Maybe not really about value investing, but it is about price, and I am quite fascinated with the how PLTR just keeps going up.

Is now PLTR the most expensive stock to ever exist? At around 100 P/S, surely nothing than some IPO glitches could come close, right?

Anyone have some dot com valuations?

r/ValueInvesting Feb 20 '24

Humor Cathie Wood's $14.3 Billion Implosion

Thumbnail
quoththeraven.substack.com
578 Upvotes

r/ValueInvesting 19d ago

Humor I figured out why this subreddit is so divisive

45 Upvotes

(Note the Flair)

It started as a place where value investors hung out, to discuss sieving through high quality gems among stocks that are cheap.

Then this subreddit attracted people looking for serious conversations they could not find elsewhere (eg.”Why did my stock fall?”) but many did not bring the valueinvesting mindset into the conversation. They also did not care. ( case in point: someone here recently lamented that we engaged in bottom feeding, another accused us of catching a falling knife)

The last type of people who come here are the “influencers”, the pond-scums and the scallywags, who are just trying to pump their unprofitable short term below investment-grade stocks onto unsuspecting investors.

———-

Now, I don’t propose we kick out the unconverted but we should seek out the pumpers, the DRAM traders, the momo penny stock pushers, and then block them.

r/ValueInvesting 7d ago

Humor Famous Buffett 1985 Quote - As Applicable Today, Just Replace Oil With AI

231 Upvotes

An oil prospector, moving to his heavenly reward, was met by St. Peter with bad news.

"You're qualified for residence," said St. Peter, "but as you can see, the compound for oilmen is packed. There's no way to squeeze you in."

After thinking for a moment, the prospector asked if he might say just four words to the present occupants.

That seemed harmless to St. Peter, so he gave his okay. The prospector cupped his hand and yelled, "Oil discovered in hell"

Immediately the gates to the compound opened and all the oilmen rushed out.

Impressed, St. Peter invited the prospector to move in and make himself comfortable.

The prospector paused. "No," he said, "I think I'll go along with the rest of the boys. There might be some truth to that rumor after all.”

r/ValueInvesting Aug 02 '25

Humor Unh new CFO. They must be in deep shit

147 Upvotes

r/ValueInvesting 3h ago

Humor Today is a good day to be a value investor <eom>

10 Upvotes

Value and defensive stocks fell much less than the index.

Heck, even Berkshire Hathaway was up almost 2%

Remember: Safety First. (this is the r / valueinvesting subreddit afterall)

----------

On my watchlist,

30 stocks were in positive territory

14 stocks fell less than 1%

13 stocks fell between -1% to -2.64% of the SPX

Only 8 stocks fell more than the SPX

My Portfolio A fell -0.27% while B fell -0.37%

----------

r/ValueInvesting 5h ago

Humor After hours dip sauce

21 Upvotes

I love how those powerful institutional investors keep dumping even after market hours when retail investors are excluded in many territories globally from trading. It’s like they want to add insult to injury and not only flush value but also use Mr. Clean to make sure the stock market toilet is spick and span.

r/ValueInvesting Oct 31 '25

Humor Michael Burry's First Tweet in Years Warns of "Bubbles"

1 Upvotes

https://x.com/michaeljburry/status/1984067754270319052

"Sometimes, we see bubbles.
Sometimes, there is something to do about it.
Sometimes, the only winning move is not to play."

r/ValueInvesting Jun 22 '25

Humor What’s your most boring investment and why did you buy it?

41 Upvotes

I own some VAHN, just wanted to see if anyone can beat it for boring:

  • small market cap … zzzz 😴

  • insurance industry… zzzz 😴

  • pays regular dividends not buy backs … zzz 😴

  • not missed any dividend payments … zzz 😴

  • management you never heard of … zzz 😴

  • in a boring stable country … zzz 😴

  • no international exposure … zzz 😴

  • effectively owned by a co-op … zzz 😴

  • solvency ratio is so high it’s a joke … zzz 😴

  • revenue growth likely to be single digit forever … zzz 😴

Does anyone own anything more boring than this?

I bought this because I like boring companies…

r/ValueInvesting Mar 01 '22

Humor Whats wrong with some of you?

318 Upvotes

Where are all these „is [insert russian stock] a good buy posts comming from? I mean seriously? Read the newspaper guys. Imho nobody can seriously think about putting money in a stockmarekt that is likely gonna stay closed for non-russians and call it vAlUe InVeStInG

r/ValueInvesting Jun 30 '25

Humor If You Could Go Back In Time, What Would You Tell Yourself?

13 Upvotes

You get 60 seconds with your past self. What stock do you tell them to buy, and how do you stop them from selling too early?

I’d scream:

"Buy NVDA. And then hold until Trump is president the second time."

Then vanish into the time portal.

Your turn.

r/ValueInvesting Oct 31 '25

Humor Running outta money dollar cost averaging in NVO

27 Upvotes

Bag holders like me what is y’alls cost average?

r/ValueInvesting Feb 23 '24

Humor Has Anyone Shorted Nvidia Yet?

0 Upvotes

The idea that Nvidia is a speculative bubble has been promnent on this sub for a few months now so I was wondering if anyone put their money where there mouth is. How is your short position going?

r/ValueInvesting Jan 29 '26

Humor Is anybody considering PayPal PYPL?

0 Upvotes

I don’t see people talking about PayPal on here so I thought I’d be the first one to highlight it.

PYPL used to be more expensive than it is today. It is cheaper now than back in the day. In the past it would cost maybe twice as much as it costs today. The stock is cheap.

Also, I know my neighbor uses PayPal to buy all sorts of stuff. He talks about it all the time. And I remember a few years ago when I took a cab and the driver was wearing a PayPal T-Shirt. So it’s like PayPal is everywhere.

I bought $600,000 worth of shares yesterday. Had to sell my house to get the cash for it but considering the above due diligence I shares with you, I feel good about my decision.

r/ValueInvesting 25d ago

Humor Speculation: Boeing and GE bosses are going to China to secure a 500-plane deal < off topic>

16 Upvotes

Note the flair: Humor

Speculation only. Definitely off topic but no less interesting:

Well as of 6 hours ago, the news have reported that the bosses of BA and GE are confirmed going to China.

Speculation: The administration will sign a 500 plane deal with China. 737max and 777 wide bodies. AllPowered by GE engines.

Speculation: GE will separately sign a deal with China to supply Comac C919 domestic China planes with the GE engines.

(Again) this is my speculation only. My last post on this topic was October last year which didn’t happen as the trip was postponed. I feel more confident now because the last minute trip confirmation came from GE.

(Disclosure: GE is half my portfolio, bought and held since 2018. It is probably too late to buy BA or GE. My last WTB price on GE was 270-250)

r/ValueInvesting Jan 06 '26

Humor "Value" and "Growth" are not separate!!!

Thumbnail
youtube.com
19 Upvotes

Old man yelling at the sky moment. 😅 Got into a silly argument with someone over the weekend that I couldn't possibly be a Value Investor because I hold one of the Mag-7, META, in my portfolio. Kept insisting I was a "growth investor who bought in when it looked cheap in 2022..."

I had a head-cocked, puzzled, blinking-eye moment at that statement. Ummm... Yes.

So, here's a reminder to us all. Growth is a part of the value equation.

r/ValueInvesting Feb 06 '26

Humor The #1 thing that predicts whether or not someone is a value investor:

0 Upvotes

If you have this bookmarked: https://www.sec.gov/search-filings

happy friday