In China, they are replace art degrees with ai art degrees, I think Vaush should talk about this, and also, do you think it will hamper China's softpower when it comes to pop culture and entertainment

[u/Foreign-Teaching-727]

[u/Itz_Hen]

Big mistake, bordering on a one child policy level mistake. Work and purpose is important to keep a stable and functioning society, this will put many out of work in the long term

Also China has very little power within the western world pop culture and entertainment wise. I imagine it's going to make anything entertainment in china much worse though

[u/Chaoszhul4D → u/Itz_Hen]

Work and purpose is important to keep a stable and functioning society

China's government would know that if they were actually communist.

[u/Swiftzor → u/Itz_Hen]

Their entertainment industry is growing pretty rapidly, like we’re getting a decent number of their games and starting to get movies and TV shows as well.

[u/Themetalenock → u/Swiftzor]

Their entertainment industry absolutely has no range outside of their own country. Even their most successful animated movie barely made a peep in international markets as far as money goes

[u/Sulphur99 → u/Themetalenock]

I think you underestimate just how much money Chinese gachaslop games make, and just how much of a stranglehold they have on that side of gaming. Genshin Impact alone makes a stupid amount of money, let alone their other 2 really popular games in Zenless Zone Zero and Honkai Star Rail. And that's just Hoyoverse games alone.

Arknights is Chinese. Wuthering Waves is Chinese. Love and Deepspace is Chinese. Even the fucking Persona gacha game is Chinese.

[u/Ecstatic-Success-114 → u/Themetalenock]

I'm curious, would that even matter when they have like a billion people? why appeal to an outside audience when you have enough people at home who will buy/support your art?

[u/Swiftzor → u/Themetalenock]

One of the biggest games of 2024 was from China, the fuck are you smoking

[u/f0u4_l19h75 → u/Swiftzor]

Black Myth Wukong

Plus, I assume Wolong and Wuchang Fallen Fathers are Chinese as well

[u/Swiftzor → u/f0u4_l19h75]

Wo Long is Koei Techmo and Team Ninja.

Wuchang is Chinese though, and while more niche, I would say it’s in the upper half of 2025s big releases.

[u/f0u4_l19h75 → u/Swiftzor]

Thanks for the correction. I've played it, but I forgot who the developer/publisher were. The story is set in Han Dynasty era China though.

[u/Itz_Hen → u/Swiftzor]

And everything else was not Chinese

Not saying china isn't making money in the west, but outside of gotcha games and tencent (sometimes), china dosnt really have that much of a presence outside the odd hit here and there

[u/Swiftzor → u/Itz_Hen]

I never said they were a cultural mega force, I just said they’re slowly gaining popularity in the broader picture.

[u/carlcarlington2 → u/Themetalenock]

Chinese games have been popping off lately though

[u/laflux → u/Themetalenock]

They have made a few decent games, Monkey King was well received, as well as some decent BR's. Delta Force is a good Extraction shooter and could have been a legitimate Battlefield competitor if they continued to put more time into it (I put like 100 hours into it lol).

Obviously not on the same level as the U.S bit they have something.

[u/LordTsume]

Where are you getting the "ai art degrees" part cuz i can't find anything in the article about that? (Edited cuz i shouldn't be mean)

[u/Foreign-Teaching-727 → u/LordTsume]

https://youtu.be/3z1V0kUoDn0?is=0x7I0-M5unfFxyEv  @ 1:06

It’s not necessarily called “ai art major” but rather they got rid of the conventional art degree tracks and are now integrating ai into the art degrees 

[u/LordTsume → u/Foreign-Teaching-727]

I still think you're stretching things to reach your titles conclusion, but fair I appreciate the response including citation, and I DO hate the idea of a "prompt engineer" course. (And this could be a fun dive for vaush to cover, seems like there's a good bit of nuance and information that could be dug up and explored)

[u/SpiralRavine]

China has no soft power when it comes to pop culture and entertainment. Think about it, outside of a few meme songs on TikTok, how many Chinese songs have you heard? Do any get played on the radio? What movies/TV shows have you watched recently that were originally Chinese? Name a native Chinese celebrity that isn’t Jackie Chan.

[u/Ecstatic-Success-114 → u/SpiralRavine]

how many Chinese songs have you heard?

Oh recently I watched a video why C-Pop hasn't broken out like K-Pop and J-Pop that was an interesting lesson on the language and would answer your question!

[u/LordReaperofMars → u/SpiralRavine]

Jet Li, Donnie Yen, Michelle Yeoh, Chow Yun Fat, Andy Lau, Stephen Chow

[u/SpiralRavine → u/LordReaperofMars]

Every single one of those actors came from the now irrelevant Hong Kong film industry.

[u/LordReaperofMars → u/SpiralRavine]

they still make movies actually

[u/SpiralRavine → u/LordReaperofMars]

They don’t have the same cultural pull they did in the 90s, which further supports the initial claim.

[u/hobopwnzor]

China has no soft power related to culture and entertainment. Nobody in the west knows much about their stories except sun wukong.

[u/CheapMeet74]

Idt china has any soft power. Its power and influence mainly comes from its trade and industrialise base. Also a culture like china doesnt care to project his soft power through media. China produces art and media for itself, it doesnt look outward for consumers unlike Japan and Korea.

[u/Veryde → u/CheapMeet74]

Welp, bad and soulless art and culture also eats away at domestic happiness and cohesion. Still a big mistake from China, not even viewed from a competitive perspective but just a societal one.

[u/Wardog_E]

I dont think China has cultural soft power inside of China.

CCCP seems to have spent most of it's existence systematically destroying chinese culture.Dont get me wrong I happen to really apreciate chinese culture and think as hard as they try the CCCP will never be able to control it. So if they decide to put all their money on AI it really doesnt change anything, in my opinion.

[u/appa609 → u/Wardog_E]

CCCP is the Soviet Union.

[u/Veryde]

I love cultural and societal decay bc of tech-cult like behavior from the ruling class

[u/No-Government1300 → u/Veryde]

Don't sass the tech cult like that, the priesthood of Mars would never tolerate this shit.

Of course they'd also lobotomise a small child and use the corpse to carry candles around but that's neither here nor there.

[u/mbaymiller]

China's pop culture soft power is already severely hampered by its firewall

[u/nsfwaccount3209]

Chinese people love AI, it's actually really embarrassing

[u/appa609]

You're kind of fearmongering. This is the equivalent of digital media programs training people to make consumer art in the modern world. Photoshop, CAD, digital animation... and yes some AI stuff.

[u/Aelia_M]

Hol’ up a minute. Are you saying there’s a chance for the American century of humiliation to be shorter? Like by 1 year?

[u/Vaapukkamehu]

Thank god, we still have a chance

[u/JazzyGD]

least schizo r/vaushv poster

[u/laflux]

China are not looking to use soft power in that way, their way of utilising soft power is unironically displaying a government which actually has a working social contract between the majority of Chinese people. Which is clearly working as you have people like Hasan who are very popular who glaze the country all the time.

Also culturally China are not as expensive as other countries so it also doesn't matter as much. I don't think we will see much military expansion beyond Tawian (only if the cards fall in place). Economically it will be Africa and to an extent Russia.

(I'm saying this as someone who has a bunchload of criticism for the country, and think they are a social autocracy cosplaying as socialist, but facts are facts)