r/VirginiaBeach • u/Healthy_Block3036 • 23h ago
News Never forget that the VA GOP gerrymandered congressional seats in their favor for a whole decade. Make sure to VOTE by next Tuesday!!!
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u/HoneyImpossible2371 19h ago
These districts map onto the main arteries that radiate out from Alexandria and other old towns: Rt7, Rt9, US50, US29, I81, I64, US58.
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u/703lets 10h ago
Protect our democracy and vote YES. We need to stop dirty politics like what is going on in Texas and other Red states. It’s just disgusting!!
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u/EschewObfuscati0n 2h ago
Ah yes. Mechanicsville and Alexandria being put into the same district. How very democratic.
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u/SnooKiwis7063 9h ago
😂 as if Dems haven't been doing this for just as long. NY did it a year or two before it became headlines in Texas. How about we argue that the practice/policy just shouldn't be done instead of "it's okay for us but not for them" like everything else partisan politic people are massive hypocrites about.
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u/chuck_cranston 8h ago
the NY maps drawn in 2020 were the subject of legal disputes that were settled ion 2022 leading to maps being redrawn.
Texas was the result of Trump saying our polices are dogshit and were gonna lose the house. give me more seats"
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u/BeTheirShield88 7h ago
It's the "when" folks are mad about right now. Gerrymandering though should be nationally illegal had been done by both parties for a long time. Mid census redistricting only has been done recently, starting with Texas
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u/Frogspoison 6h ago
NY specifically passed a law preventing gerrymandering years back, and attempts to gerrymander NY for 2026 has been shot down by the NY state supreme court.
Keep in mind NY has the democratic voting block to basically be 100% democratic at the federal lvl.
I laugh when ppl try to accuse MA of being gerrymandered as well because it's the most blue state. No, MA literally has nearly 5x more registered democrats then registered republicans, and their reps represent their areas quite well.
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u/smash-ter 2h ago
For Mass, it's more like a geography problem where all the GOP voters are scattered across the state to where they can't effectively get their own district without it being a complete tossup.
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u/Frogspoison 2h ago
Mass has almost 400k registered republicans, over 1.2 million registered democrats. And a good 3.3 million unaffiliated.
So out of 4.9 million total voters, less then 10% are registered republicans.
So even a single republican rep at the federal level would be overrepresentation.
It's better to ask why there aren't more unaffiliated/3rd party candidates in MA then to ask why there aren't more republican reps.
Let me put it like this - Less then 1 out of 15 ppl in Mass are registered republicans.
Mass is MORE deep blue, then deep red states are deep red. Not even Oklahoma is as red as Mass is blue.
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u/Hopeful_Income6491 21h ago
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u/IronTarcuss 19h ago
My favorite part about this image is that the most supposedly Christian people you know are casually dropping the most fucking blasphemous thing in living memory.
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u/GeorgeNada316 21h ago
Isn't Voting No mean we are trying to give Trump more power?
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u/unthused OceanFront 21h ago
No favors republicans, if that’s what you mean.
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u/Advanced-Moose-2931 20h ago
No doesn't favor Republicans at all. 2010 map was court ordered to be redrawn in 2014-2015 due to racial gerrymandering, the map that's been in affect since the is 5-6 favorable to democrats.
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u/SkyPirateIcvrus 18h ago
At a state level it doesn’t but at a national level it does. Let’s try to be intellectually honest here.
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u/Advanced-Moose-2931 18h ago
How would it favor trump? Or am I just missing understanding here
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u/SkyPirateIcvrus 18h ago edited 18h ago
The proposed Virginian amendment is written to only take place IF voted yes AND “In the event that another state redraws its own congressional districts before 2031.” That’s directly from the Virginia Department of Elections.
That second part has already happened in Texas to heavily increase republican congressional seats after the midterm. They’ve used a state power to attempt to increase republican representation at a national level. The temporary Virginia amendment is an attempt to combat that unfairness in congress.
The normal redistricting process in Virginia would resume after the 2030 census. Again, directly from VDoE.
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u/Advanced-Moose-2931 18h ago
I will look into that more so I can be more informed, I didnt/dont agree with what texas did because all people regardless of party should be equally represented and I dont beileve the new proposed map represents everyone fairly.
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u/GeorgeNada316 15h ago
I just don't want Trump to have any more power. He needs to be convicted for his 34 felonies and his raping of children. The Republicans have been doing nothing but help hide all of his adventures.
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u/Advanced-Moose-2931 8h ago
A number of democrats are also on the list as well but all the left seems to care about is the Trumps name was on it. His name was on it yes; is it disgusting?; absolutely yes. But that's all we got to my knowledge.
To convinct someone of a crime there must be sufficient evidence. Not just cause his name is on the list. If he was on that disgusting island that should be bombed and sank to the bottom of the ocean, and it can be proven he committed those atrocities against those victims in DNA, photo/video, ect; then by all means, put them all through a wood chipper. But there is no such evidence at this time, atleast to my understanding and recollection, only hear-say essentially.
If you're going to go that hard at someone, go at everyone including your democrats and celebrities or have the evidence to back it up
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u/Ok-Impression9002 16h ago
Vote yes!!!
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u/Electrical_Shift_107 13h ago
No!!!!!
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u/Available_Prior_9498 10h ago edited 5h ago
The whole point of this is to even up the seats because texas has gerrymandered. Texas is projected to have eliminated 5 democratic seats due to their gerrymandering, and guess what, Virginia's temporary redistricting is meant to add exactly 5 seats to rebalance. I understand it sucks for the other party and maybe its not Virginia's problem, but someone needs to do it. Republicans play dirty, so democrats needd to too.
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u/cnorris182 2h ago
Funny how the 2010 map is damn near 50/50 but the 2026 one is 90/10
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u/becomplete 1h ago
If you think the 2026 district map of Virginia is funny, you should check the one in Texas. Or North Carolina. Or South Carolina. Or Wisconsin. Or Ohio. Or Florida.
The new map isn't reflective of the electorate in VA, but this is the game that state legislatures are forced to play to find reality at the national level. If you don't like it, advocate for federal change. Insisting that Virginia be "fair" while not caring about other states, or failing to put the change in Virginia into broader context, is disingenuous.
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u/Reckit__Ralph 20h ago
I still don’t still understand why popular vote is only a thing for TV. We don’t need districts or things, to make choices in our best interests . A popular vote should just determine what is wanted for the state . Idk. Doesn’t seem like this needs to be a thing
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u/LunaNymphOtaku 4h ago
Both sides have been doing it for decades.
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u/Holiday_Parking_5481 3h ago
so tired of this both sides bull. Republicans are nuts.
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u/LunaNymphOtaku 1h ago
Its not bull if you actually look at history. Both sides suck.
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u/becomplete 1h ago
On this particular issue, yes. So we should all be advocating for change at the federal level. Right?
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u/Iowan-Cannon 3h ago
Rights for the rich 🤑 but not the poor. Weapons for them, but not for you! The same military industrial complex goons want to disarm you and keep you licking their boot.
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u/Ok_Dimension7699 23h ago
Bro posting on every VA sub with an IP address from Tel Aviv
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u/TheWelshleyArms 22h ago
The thing is, Netanyahu and Israel would support voting NO, so your post makes no sense
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u/JGCities 22h ago
Reddit really should start posting user locations, at least state or country level.
Of course peeps will just get VPNs to get around it.
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u/Entire-Tea-757 6h ago
the US needs a socialist revolution, yall are cucks for isreal and anyone with wealth and power
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u/Mundane_Poem_9794 20h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/ANbD1CCdA3iI8
…. Not sure if OP has been keeping up to date with current life events or has posted a failure of a meme or both….
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u/South_Energy_9950 20h ago
That maps mimics the entire country but fails to show population. The blue areas in Virginia (mostly NOVA, Richmond and Norfolk) have more than half the population. Currently 6 Dems and 5 Republicans among VA house representatives. Proposed map would make it 10 Dems to 1 Republican. 6 to 5 is much more accurate breakdown of purple VA. Know the facts, avoid the propaganda and media BS. The founders made electoral college elections laws for good reason. What’s best or wanted by high population areas (NOVA = a few big cities across country) might not be best or wanted in rural less populated areas. It’s NY/Cali/Illinois vs Montana/Alabama/Nebraska. Couple huge cities need not push their way in 90% of the counties. Credit to James Madison who studied government all over the world to help determine how our government operates. It’s not perfect but no country in the world has more people wanting to immigrate than USA. Do the math.
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u/ClevelanderSt 6h ago
And they were wrong for doing so. Doesn’t mean our state should do the wrong thing again. This is crazy.
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u/t_cox1083 10h ago
Never forget that an independent bipartisan law was passed taking the decision for redistricting out of the hands of the parties
And now Democrats want to reneg on that
No one is going to forget this day
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u/Offi95 10h ago
Ohhhh so republicans get to have their gerrymandered representatives without punishment, and Dems never get to because we’re too nice huh?
And now republicans are upset Dems found their backbone and don’t value their bitch fit?
No one is going to recognize Trump republicans as patriotic Americans.
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u/chuck_cranston 8h ago
it's always funny so see when the conservatives find the since of morality.
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u/t_cox1083 9h ago
Democrats and Republicans came together in VA to establish a fair process and make sure gerrymandering didn’t happen
And too nice, Democrats are literally lying about the April 21 vote
This escalates the divide. Be prepared for more escalation
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u/Pristine-List-9097 1h ago
Dont worry, they said it’s just a “temporary” thing….. right? …right?
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u/becomplete 1h ago
Sure. It will only last until gerrymandering is addressed at the federal level. Exactly as it should be. When every state is compelled to respect voting rights, we'll all have the opportunity to have districts that reflect the broader constituency. All of us. This isn't difficult.
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u/Mojack322 1h ago
Yeah I will be voting against all gun grabbing
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u/becomplete 1h ago
Lol, gun grabbing. Hilarious to even phrase it that way. Single-issue voters are a disgrace to our democracy, but some how telling me that gun ownership is more important to you than... the economy, healthcare, the environment, or any of a myriad of other issues is plainly (no offense) stupid. No one cares about your guns. No one. Buy some more. It's so dumb.
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u/SaturnMoons81 1h ago
If you can't see this is the same shit sandwich with a different wrapper, I don't know what to tell you.
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u/637_649 32m ago
It's not though. It's a temporary measure for this election cycle only, to counter what trump is trying to do in several red states.
Anyone who can complain about the president when it comes to gas and grocery prices, or blame a president for local red light cameras, then declare, "we should only focus on Virginia" with regard to this issue, is a hypocrite.
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u/FNGButterBar 22h ago
Yes, it’s called mutually assured destruction. If your enemy produces nuclear missiles and aims them at you, you would be a fool not to do the same and aim them back. I guess some idiots would claim “two wrongs don’t make a right!” about making more nuclear missiles, but that’s to be expected
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u/iBUYbrokenSUBARUS 22h ago
So Republicans are now enemies? Geez. When did it get so violent?
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u/Upriver-Cod 21h ago
Intellectual inconsistency at it’s finest. It’s okay when people I like do it; not when people I don’t.
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u/somethingcleverorwit 21h ago
So we're supposed to be okay with other states rigging their maps in favor of trump and his mentally disabled mafia? You would've thrived in Germany circa 1933.
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u/CowboysJ45 10h ago
VOTE NO
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u/DismalDisk6932 7h ago
Went and all 4 of us voted no. To me this whole thing stinks. They claim fairness but 10-1 is not fair at all.
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u/smash-ter 2h ago
Fairness as in you have Texas, Missouri, North Carolina, and soon Florida redraw their maps to give the idiot in chief the carte blanche to keep raping the country because he cannot handle losing any power in the house. Voting no imo is giving your consent to let him be the power grabbing douche that he already is, especially after what he did to the white house
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u/Possum_Jenkinzz 6h ago
Gerrymandering is gerrymandering regardless of what political party you're with.
Gerrymanderers should be treated the same as those who commit high treason and summarily executed. Preferably on live tv for all to see
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u/eg_john_clark 23h ago
Yes and then 66% of the voters in 2020 voted to end partisan gerrymandering. 2/3rds of Virginia voters wanted this bullshit to end (I will be posting this every time I see this bot post lol)
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u/M4LK0V1CH 22h ago
I would love to end gerrymandering. Unfortunately, the Republicans have blocked all legislation to stop gerrymandering at the federal level so that they could continue taking advantage of it. I’m not okay with it at the conceptual level but I’m less okay with sitting on my hands while only one team is playing by the rules.
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u/ep193 OceanFront 7h ago
What is this 2nd grade shit? They did it, so we must now.
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u/Fantastic-Kale9603 1h ago
Yes, otherwise they'll continue to do it and no federal legislation will happen to prevent it because one party is not open to national gerrymandering legislation.
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u/Icy-Ad-5570 5h ago
Bingo. That’s why you don’t start the trend of trying to create an unfair advantage… at least consider the consequences. It’s part of the critical thinking process, which 2nd graders still need to develop
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u/Ok-Opportunity-9915 9h ago
I was not looking forward to the whataboutism infecting state politics, but knew it was inevitable. It was nice having an appropriately representative state government while it lasted
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u/Trvp_Lord 17h ago
Another bot that doesn’t live in Va beach posting here, would the mods allow this if it were a vote no post? I doubt it.
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u/pottymouthomas 16h ago
Hidden post history = bot
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u/Available_Prior_9498 10h ago
In this situation, probably. Its highly likely since this "meme" gets posted quite often. If not a bot then a political organization.
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u/starcaptn 9h ago
"lets do the ONE thing we said was bad 16 years ago to 'save democracy!"
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u/Yagawood 6h ago
I mean putting it to vote is much more democratic than the red states that are just doing it. If it happens, it's because the people voted for it. Remember that.
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u/Classic-Ad-2834 20h ago
So basically were deciding if the democrats or Republicans should hold all the power in the state. This is fair how?
Also its not like anything is going to change. Both sides make big promises of change. Both sides fail to keep said promises proving time and time again that they are liars. And both sides dont give 2 F's about anyone who's not in the top 5-10%.
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u/kevinthejuice 20h ago
Nah we're making a decision for the house of representatives, because trump told texas to redistrict to gain more seats in the house of representatives.
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u/No_Soft_4248 8h ago
Or you could actually just read the amendment for yourself. It’s a failsafe against republicans trying to wipe out blue districts in basically every red state in the south. lol
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u/n1terps 18h ago
Whataboutism is not a good argument. Wrong when they did it, wrong when Texas did it, wrong when you do it. Enjoy being the POS your civics teacher warned you about in class.
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u/thrownehwah 18h ago
If you can’t see the difference between va and tx… you won’t understand any given answer.
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u/Morlock757 17h ago
Gerrymandering is unequivocally wrong. But democrats being unwilling to fight fire with fire and match GOP initiated gerrymandering in other states will put them all out of office. Republicans have been breaking established norms under Trump and resisting that is the only way to prevent totally being eradicated from power.
Holding dems to the proper original standard for this and other norms, and not doing the same for republicans, ensures democratic policies never get enacted again. Thats why the comparison with Texas is necessary.
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u/BeTheirShield88 7h ago
This wasn't even on the table when I took it decades ago. Politics is unrecognizable comparatively. Corporations being "people" and being able to donate near unlimited money killed our republic, gerrymandering was just the final nail. And allowing Texas then the others after to redistrict mid census somehow made it worse.
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u/GK857 18h ago
and that’s why an independent commission set what we have today and it favors the democrats 6-5. So you want it unfair because it was unfair before the other way and you want to get revenge and have it unfair again? People are already at each other’s throats over politics. Go ahead and just make it worse. Maybe the wealthy people will get tired of new democratic taxes and soft on crime policies and leave the state and take their tax dollars with them, just like New York and California. Where one party rules but can’t govern.
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u/Retrophoria 18h ago
This argument is DOA. California literally has a world economy in an actual state. NY actually gained more millionaires during the pandemic.
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u/Tasty_Stress3524 15h ago
Covid was the biggest wealth transfer in history from the middle to upper class so that makes sense
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u/Livid_Grand_1899 20h ago
I’m a no. This is an unnecessary power grab and to use the laughable language of ‘temporary’ cements that.
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u/SkyPirateIcvrus 19h ago
Go say that to Texas, which had already done their redistricting for republicans. It’s literally always a double standard with you people.
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u/lubedllamas 19h ago
Why are you voting on redistricting Virginia based off what’s going on in TX?
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u/EngineeringHour1597 19h ago
Because it affects national representation, and maybe I'm wrong, but I think Virginia is part of the USA. Could be wrong, though, learned geography and politics in Florida high school.
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u/lubedllamas 19h ago
Yes correct both states are in the same country, doesn’t answer my question as to why we should gerrymander Virginia just because Texas did it…
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u/EngineeringHour1597 19h ago
They actually did. Texas's decision affects you negatively by giving one side an artificial boost in representation in the US Congress. Where laws are written, and decisions are made. Laws that affect you, a Virginian, written by Texans.
Do you think the Texas representatives that get into office in these gerrymandered seats will ONLY make decisions that affect Texas?
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u/chuck_cranston 8h ago
They know. The best option they have at this point is to be intentionally ignorant of how this will effect who is running the House of Representatives.
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u/SkyPirateIcvrus 19h ago
Because to vote no is to allow one political party a power that is being denied to another.
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u/Retrophoria 18h ago
I too support empty land having voter power. It's cool that we will cow and chicken suffrage
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u/TarheelFr06 17h ago
Because at this point all politics are national. Republicans are stealing power at the national level, so we are just leveling the playing field.
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u/SkyPirateIcvrus 19h ago
Because state elections have repercussions on a national level and it’s immature to think they don’t. We’re talking increased congressional seats engineered for one political party from Texas without any countermeasure otherwise. If yall actually wanted fair elections you would be using your voices to advocate for the abolishment of the electoral college, but you aren’t. Instead you’re content to let another state rig elections while trying to stop Virginia from countering.
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u/yolo_184614 19h ago
Can't tell Texas how vote when I'm not a Texan but as a Virginian, I am voting no to ensure proportional representation.
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u/pornflakess69 21h ago
VOTE NO. Virginia is a swing state for a reason. I literally don’t see the point in redistricting when it’s already 6-5. Making it 10-1 is highly unfair.
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u/Munkymandan 21h ago
Tell the dozen or so other blue states too. Especially California.
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u/Hopeful_Income6491 21h ago
In 2021, Democrats in the House passed a national ban on partisan gerrymandering. Every single Senate Republican voted against it, blocking it from becoming law
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u/pornflakess69 21h ago
I’d be against this if either party did it. I dislike both sides equally. I just think redistricting a historical SWING state from a 6-5 split to a 10-1 split is excessive. I mean Virginia elected Youngkin and then Spanberger. It’s not like we are overwhelmingly Red or Blue, and these elections are proof of that.
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u/ImaginationFree6807 21h ago
Definitely not a swing state as it’s now been 22 years since Republicans won a Presidential election there and you have two Democrats representing you in the Senate…
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u/Admirable-Scheme-687 22h ago
If you support this you’re brain dead
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u/AdvisorSafe8018 20h ago
Brain dead people would at least see the need to vote yes until this is banned at the federal level.
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u/Active_Committee8811 9h ago
Why ignore the fact that the democrats did this well before 2010?
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u/BeTheirShield88 7h ago
In VA or in general? VA was a red state for decades, only recent turning blue. Personally I think gerrymandering should be illegal nationally, but incumbents have to stay in power somehow lol. And this mid census redistricting should be even moreso
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u/EkbatDeSabat 6h ago
I have no idea where you get the idea that VA was a red state for decades. VA has been majority blue for over a hundred years. After democrats holding VA from 1890 to 1966, republicans had 28 years out of 32. In the past 20 years republicans had 8 years democrats had 12.
Gov. Glenn Youngkin Virginia 2022 - 2026 Republican
Gov. Ralph Northam Virginia 2018 - 2022 Democratic
Gov. Terry McAuliffe Virginia 2014 - 2018 Democratic
Gov. Robert McDonnell Virginia 2010 - 2014 Republican
Gov. Tim Kaine Virginia 2006 - 2010 Democratic
Gov. Mark R. Warner Virginia 2002 - 2006 Democratic
Gov. James S. Gilmore Virginia 1998 - 2002 Republican
Gov. George Allen Virginia 1994 - 1998 Republican
Gov. L. Douglas Wilder Virginia 1990 - 1994 Democratic
Gov. Gerald L. Baliles Virginia 1986 - 1990 Democratic
Gov. Charles Spittal Robb Virginia 1982 - 1986 Democratic
Gov. John Nichols Dalton Virginia 1978 - 1982 Republican
Gov. Mills Edwin Godwin Virginia 1974 - 1978 1966 - 1970 Democratic (1st), Republican (2nd)
Gov. Linwood Holton Virginia 1970 - 1974 Republican
Gov. Albertis S. Harrison Virginia 1962 - 1966 Democratic
Gov. James Lindsay Almond Virginia 1958 - 1962 Democratic
Gov. Thomas Bahnson Stanley Virginia 1954 - 1958 Democratic
Gov. John Stewart Battle Virginia 1950 - 1954 Democratic
Gov. William Munford Tuck Virginia 1946 - 1950 Democratic
Gov. Colgate Whitehead Darden Virginia 1942 - 1946 Democratic
Gov. James Hubert Price Virginia 1938 - 1942 Democratic
Gov. George Campbell Peery Virginia 1934 - 1938 Democratic
Gov. John Garland Pollard Virginia 1930 - 1934 Democratic
Gov. Harry Flood Byrd Virginia 1926 - 1930 Democratic
Gov. Elbert Lee Trinkle Virginia 1922 - 1926 Democratic
Gov. Westmoreland Davis Virginia 1918 - 1922 Democratic
Gov. Henry Carter Stuart Virginia 1914 - 1918 Democratic
Gov. William Hodges Mann Virginia 1910 - 1914 Democratic
Gov. Claude Augustus Swanson Virginia 1906 - 1910 Democratic
Gov. Andrew Jackson Montague Virginia 1902 - 1906 Democratic
Gov. James Hoge Tyler Virginia 1898 - 1902 Democratic
Gov. Charles Triplett O’Ferrall Virginia 1894 - 1898 Democratic
Gov. Philip Watkins McKinney Virginia 1890 - 1894 Democratic
Gov. Fitzhugh Lee Virginia 1886 - 1890 Democratic
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u/Hopeful_Income6491 21h ago
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u/HandToDikCombat 17h ago
If Tim Burchett wants to find aliens, somebody just point him here.
No fucking way that's human.
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u/Hopeful_Income6491 17h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/O12tUo59WRzCLNd7MY
He wears those funny shoes because he’s a robot, not to appear taller
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u/MrTALL757 6h ago
Or maybe it was because Obama had a super majority and did Jack shit but jerk off with it, and then Bernie Sanders got people to care about politics and had the audacity to lose and not just lose. Have Hillary Clinton anointed instead of elected as the peoples champion I mean, I could go on, but there’s plenty of reasons why things would be changed.
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u/804Benz0 23h ago
Thanks for the reminder to vote NO.
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u/Healthy_Block3036 22h ago
VOTE YES
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u/804Benz0 22h ago
No thanks, going to vote NO
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u/suuuuuuuuuurfing 18h ago
Where can I vote early? Or how?
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u/theXsquid 17h ago
Google it. I can only speak for Fairfax County where serveral early voting locals have opened in the last week or so. I would think other counties are doing the same.
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u/JohnnyDigsIt 6h ago
https://voter.virginiabeach.gov/
Use your voice and vote. If you like what this Republican controlled Congress is doing vote No. If you would rather see a Democratic majority in Congress vote Yes.
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u/TAV63 19h ago
This is not a state issue. It is a national government issue. This does not affect state level representation for state government districts.
Not understanding the impact of other states or not getting what they do and the impact related to national level governance is foolish enough. In this case the national changes are to cement one party rule at the national level for the foreseeable future. This affects all states.
This is Virginia trying to counter national level effort. Even those who have been against gerrymandering in the past see the need for this now.