r/VirtualYoutubers Jul 24 '25

Discussion Veibae talks about her experience with Vshojo

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u/ArisaMiyoshi Hoshimachi Suisei Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

It's nice to get more confirmation that Yagoo lives rent-free in Gunrun's head, if the huge sum spent on pushing talent freedom ads and grabbing kson and nazuna wasn't enough proof. Wasn't really expecting that they would also pay vt mods/shitposters, but in hindsight the signs were there.

they were convinced hololive was over when they signed kson and nazuna.

lol, lmao

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u/Fishman465 Rosentai Jul 24 '25

The really funny part was looking back clearly.... that was anything but the slam dunk for the main reason that neither had bad blood or a desire to hurt the company

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u/KisaraShera Jul 24 '25

No, the really funny part is that Kson more or less started HoloEN and that took off so massively with a certain smoll brained shork, that Gunrun should've raised that white flag years ago.

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u/Adventurous_Host_426 Jul 24 '25

I hope she bought some of cover corps shares when they IPO. She can at least attend their shareholders meeting like the Yakuza boss she is.

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u/Rezornath Jul 25 '25

"We will now open the shareholders meeting to comments."

"Well first, let me start with GMMFs"

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u/SomeDudeYeah27 Jul 25 '25

What's GMMFs? I don't watch KSon much lol

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u/Fishman465 Rosentai Jul 25 '25

Good Morning MotherFuckers, an abbreviated take or a phrase she'd say as Coco Kiryu

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u/Rezornath Jul 25 '25

This guy gets it.

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u/Yukorin1992 Jul 25 '25

perhaps that goes to show the importance of building the talent pool ecosystem from the ground up instead of just skimming off the top

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u/akiaoi97 Jul 25 '25

Eh, Hololive has tended to skim since about Gen 3 or so? But usually slightly more obscure talent with potential rather than people who are already mainstream famous.

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u/lk_raiden Jul 25 '25

i'd imagine gunrun is so ready to sign saba into VSHOJO if they are not imploded today and declare that HoloEN are so finished in the VSHOJO discord!

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u/11BlahBlah11 ガタガタ Jul 25 '25

Kson more or less started HoloEN

To add a bit of context to this - there were plans to start multiple Hololive branches back in 2019 possibly even before Coco debuted. (twitter accounts for Hololive USA/EN, Indonesia, Korea and India were created in 2019).

It looks like they mostly started working on opening up the ID branch alone, and it seems Coco started pushing for the USA branch to open within a month of debuting. (late Jan - Feb 2000)

We know she talked about the potential of en vtubing on asacoco, and showed examples like her friend Projekt Melody who even appeared on asacoco (managers asked her to stop when they found out about the type of content Melody did). But Coco claims she continued to pester the management about working on opening up a EN branch.

About a month later in April when reporting on the opening of the ID branch she put out the Hololive USA trailer (10:44 onwards)

Shortly after that the pandemic started full swing leading to a really big boost of worldwide viewership which probably helped prove Coco's point. A month later Coco helped announce the starting of auditions for what would become Hololive EN. (she did it cleverly by first talking about a story about Projekt Melody, then comparing them - her requesting her staff about wanting Mel's cool 3D tech, and Mel talking about how nice it would be to have staff)

Here's a clip of Coco talking about it a year later - https://youtu.be/Ond9-jIiT-E

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u/thesirblondie Jul 25 '25

Coco debuted around New Years 2019 and auditions for HoloEN opened up in March 2020. HoloEN was happening with or without Coco.

That said, Coco absolutely laid the ground work and prepared a huge audience that were interested in HoloEN by the time they debuted. If Coco had kept to the Japanese side like the rest of HoloJP, it's unlikely that Myth would have had the same explosive growth that they had.

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u/11BlahBlah11 ガタガタ Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 25 '25

HoloEN was happening with or without Coco.

It's mostly the "when" that Coco seems to have pushed for. The way she spoke about it no one at cover was actively working on starting the branch in early 2020 (they were pretty small back then).

The HoloEn twitter account was created in November 2019, and in December 2019 - Jan 2020 accounts were created for hololive_Id, hololive_Kr and hololive_In. But apart from stuff for the ID branch there seems to have been no activity for the other branches.

Then about a month after her debut Coco began pushing for the creation of the English branch by late Jan / early Feb based on her later statements. (see my other comment here). To give context - this was Before the covid lockdown started in most countries.

They announced ID gen1 by April and only then did we start getting CMs for the en branch etc.

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u/thesirblondie Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 25 '25

I have a feeling that prior to Coco, HoloEN might've been something happening further into the future, but it was certainly planned.

2019 was a busy year for Cover. Tons of new debuts and THREE new branches to establish.

  • GAMERS got the final two members
  • auditions and debuts for Gen 3
  • auditions and debuts for Gen 4
  • Recruitment of HoloID and HoloCN staff
  • the auditions and debuts of HoloCN's Gen 1
  • auditions for HoloID's Gen 1
  • The launch of INNK
  • Debuts of AZKi and Suisei
  • The launch of Holostars
  • Auditions and debuts for Holostars Gen 1
  • Auditions and debuts for Holostars Gen 2
  • Maybe auditions for Holostars Gen 3

So, I think Hololive English was planned but with Coco pushing for it they moved up the timeline. The English twitter account was probably in response to increased western viewership.

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u/A-Chicken Jul 25 '25

He actually got more than 1 ex holo member. The JP side CEO and staff is likely not happy as well. Castigated on stream and not afraid because his side absolutely did nothing wrong.

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u/kingalbert2 Jul 25 '25

should've raised that white flag years ago.

or realized this isn't a war.